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2026-01-14

 

 

Questioning Your Edge in Sports Betting (Tested)

 

It's gut wrenching. You put everything into your process, yet the results aren't showing up, and suddenly, the doubt creeps in. Am I actually good at this, or was I just lucky? If you're betting into liquid efficient markets and aren't constantly questioning your betting edge, you're probably doing something wrong. That high level of self scrutiny is what separates the professionals, and today we're talking specifically about what happens when that confidence wavers.

 

We're here at the Circuit Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, talking to some sharp bettors about losing confidence in their edge. You're going to hear real world examples of when they doubted their systems, how long they stuck with it when the math suggested they should quit, and most importantly, how they navigated those terrifying losing stretches. Stick around, because understanding volatility is key to longevity.

 

Here's What We'll Cover

 

  • Why constant self doubt is ironically a sign of health for a bettor
  • The difference between temporary variance and a genuinely evaporated edge
  • Real life stories of bettors who stuck with an edge too long
  • How to mentally manage extended downswings without chasing losses
  • Actionable steps to analyze market efficiency when your ROI dips

 

Why Questioning Your Edge Is Part of the Job

 

If you're playing in efficient markets, like the major sports leagues, hesitation isn't a weakness. It's necessary maintenance. One sharp bettor mentioned that if he's wrong, he'll listen carefully, but he starts from a position of believing his analysis is sound. That's healthy confidence, not arrogance. But the truth is, markets evolve. What worked last year might not work now because the books, the data, and the other sharp bettors are all adapting.

 

Think about how fast information moves. If you're relying on an angle that everyone else has figured out, your edge shrinks to zero, or worse, becomes negative. One of the panelists said their edge betting Major League Baseball decreased over time, especially because they stopped investing heavily in model improvements. When the environment changes, you have to change too. If you don't check your process, you're driving blind.

 

Here are some signs that you absolutely should be questioning your current methodology:

 

  • The market closes in a radically different direction than your model predicted.
  • You notice you are consistently getting filled on bad propositions or worse prices than you expect.
  • Your standard deviation suggests you are in a statistically catastrophic downswing, but it persists far longer than expected.

 

Losing confidence isn't failure. Running blindly with a broken process is failure. The discipline required to constantly audit your betting edge keeps you sharp. If someone smarter than you challenges your results, your first reaction should be curiosity, not immediate dismissal. That curiosity is the engine of long term success in this field.

 

Navigating the Hardest Part: Sticking With It Too Long

 

This is where smart people go broke. They have a proven record, they hit a massive cold streak, and they convince themselves the math is wrong, not their edge. The opposite problem is sometimes even more dangerous: knowing you've lost your edge but continuing to bet anyway due to reputational cushion or ego.

 

We heard a fantastic story about two bettors realizing they had the exact same baseball angle. One bettor realized it was dead after a year. The other insisted it was still there and kept grinding for another year and a half, losing money the entire time. That extra 18 months of work was miserable because he refused to acknowledge the situation.

 

What should you do when you suspect the edge is gone?

 

  1. Stop increasing volume. Don't bet bigger to try and dig out of the hole.
  2. Step back and isolate the variable. Which sport or market is acting differently?
  3. Consult external data. Have you benchmarked your recent results against league norms or historical performance?

 

It takes significant mental fortitude to admit you were wrong and walk away from a familiar, profitable angle. Many pros budget for an extended down run at the end of their careers because they can't recognize when the edge has dried up. They keep betting believing it's just bad luck, slowly giving back all their accumulated success. You must be willing to pull the plug on an otherwise sentimental favorite if the data tells you to.

 

Managing Emotional Fallout During Big Swings

 

When your ROI craters, your emotional response matters more than the mathematics for a few days. One sharp mentioned that during a 2 to 3 week expected poor stretch, questioning things is necessary, but it shouldn't derail your week to week plan. The key difference between a professional and a recreational player here is the concept of being owed anything.

 

If you believe you are *owed* profitable results because you did the work, you will chase losses. Every single time. Top professionals understand they are not owed a thing. They are lucky to be doing this profession. This mindset keeps the emotional impact limited.

 

How long should you allow yourself to feel down?

 

  • Individual Bet: Maybe five minutes. Analyze why it happened, if it was process or bad luck, and move on.
  • Single Day: Possible to feel down. A bad day might involve 75 to 100 bets. But once the day is over, emotionally reset.
  • Week or Month: This requires deep diligence. If you're losing over a month, the edge is almost certainly compromised, or you are managing variance poorly.

 

If low variance betting helps you maintain a calm head, it makes sense to pursue that, even if it means passing up some larger, riskier edges. If wildly swinging high variance events causes you extreme emotional stress, it might trigger catastrophic mistakes later. Find your balance, but never let a bad day turn into a bad month because you lost control of your emotions.

 

How to Apply This to Liquid Markets Where the Edge Isn't Obvious

 

It's one thing to walk away from a very specific, data driven edge that evaporates. It's much harder when you're betting highly liquid markets, like primary sport moneylines, where you suspect you have an edge but can't definitively prove it with back testing.

 

In these situations, the pressure to question your betting edge is constant. If you lose big on a standard money line bet, you should absolutely be asking if you still have an advantage there. You don't have the luxury of saying, "Well, my model for this niche prop says I'm winning," because the public information available in liquid markets is too strong.

 

Talking to peers is vital here. If you're questioning your results, talking to another trusted professional helps calibrate whether you are an outlier due to variance or if the underlying market has truly shifted against you. For some bettors, they admit they don't even fully know if they still have a major advantage in the biggest, most efficient markets they participate in. They are adapting thesis constantly.

 

Remember the NFL example. The primary things a bettor focuses on in Week 1 are almost never the primary focuses by Week 17. Adaptation isn't optional. It's survival. You must be willing to change your thesis entirely based on how the environment shifts across a season.

 

Common Questions About Questioning Your Edge

 

The Easiest Way to Start Questioning Your Edge Today

 

Don't wait for a catastrophic loss. Start small. Review the last 20 bets where you were reasonably sure you had a good price but lost anyway. Were the fills correct? Was the price you got genuinely the best available? Use standard deviation calculators if you can. If you see that your current run is in the bottom 3 percent, it warrants serious reflection, even if you calculate it's just variance. Self reflection is the tool that preserves your betting edge long term.

 

What Does It Mean If I Never Lose Confidence In My Power?

 

If you've never lost confidence, you might be too arrogant or simply betting in inefficient markets where your advantage is massive and undeniable. The honest take is that if you're playing in liquid environments, this constant questioning builds mental toughness. If you claim absolute certainty all the time, you're likely not listening to enough critical feedback from smart observers.

 

How Long Can I Afford to Stay on a Losing Streak?

 

This is personal, tied directly to your concept of risk or ruin. If you have a defined model and you observe the loss falling into statistically predicted bad luck windows, you can weather it. If you are betting into liquid markets where your edge is assumed but unproven, you should be far more cautious. If you can't prove the edge, you have to assume it's gone sooner rather than later to protect your bankroll.

 

Can Reputation Keep an Edge Alive Even If It's Gone?

 

Yes, and this is a subtle danger. A professional or group might generate CLV, or Customer Value, because of their past reputation, meaning they still get good action or favorable lines for a while even after their analytical advantage has dried up. This is usually a temporary parachute. Eventually, the market makers will catch up, or the edge seeker will realize they are just burning runway.

 

Your Next Steps

 

Losing confidence in your betting edge is a sign you respect the market. The key takeaway here is differentiation. You must be able to tell the difference between a normal, expected downswing driven by variance and the slow, painful evaporation of your analytic advantage. When you feel doubt creep in, don't immediately overreact by changing everything. Instead, use it as a mandatory diagnostic checkpoint.

 

Audit your recent high stakes losses. Were they process mistakes or bad luck? Secondly, check your market efficiency. Are you still getting the prices you were getting six months ago? If the answer is no, it’s time to pivot hard. The market is always more efficient tomorrow than it is today. Don't let complacency erode your hard won edge. Go back to your data, confirm your thesis, and adapt before the market forces you to.







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Episode Transcript

[00:00] No, if you if you start to worry about

[00:01] your process like your process isn't

[00:03] strong enough, I I think I am

[00:05] undoubtedly correct. If you are betting

[00:07] into liquid efficient markets and you

[00:10] are not constantly questioning your

[00:11] edge, you are doing something wrong. We

[00:14] are in Las Vegas, Nevada for Bet Bash at

[00:16] the Circuit Resort and Casino. A great

[00:18] place to get in touch with professional

[00:19] sports bers and we have a lineup of them

[00:22] coming on the video today to answer if

[00:24] they've ever actually lost confidence in

[00:26] their edge and what happened after that.

[00:29] Uh, no.

[00:30] >> A little bit all the time. Uh,

[00:33] >> in the nicest way like I have not. Um,

[00:36] and I think if you do like you should

[00:38] take a step back probably go on vacation

[00:40] to circuit casino in Las Vegas. Great

[00:42] place. Stadium swamp too hot in August.

[00:44] But no, if you if you start to worry

[00:45] about your process like your processes

[00:47] are strong enough, I I think I am

[00:49] undoubtedly correct. If someone who is

[00:52] smarter than me, if Rufus, who comes on

[00:54] next says, "Hey, you're wrong." I look

[00:56] at Rufus and be like, "Are you sure

[00:58] about that?" So, no, I I think I'm right

[01:00] at all times. And that's a bad thing to

[01:02] be. I'm not saying it's right. Um, but

[01:05] but it's the nature of the beast that

[01:07] we're in. It's um this is a game of of

[01:09] of knowledge. And I I try to listen to

[01:12] as many people as I can. Take opinions

[01:13] from anybody I can, but don't allow

[01:15] somebody else's opinion to shape my

[01:18] opinion. I have my opinion. I'm willing

[01:20] to listen to feedback. Um, but no, I've

[01:22] never lost confidence in my edge. I I uh

[01:26] the the worse I do, the more I bet. So I

[01:28] I feel confident that there will find a

[01:31] a fine line in a median to where I

[01:33] succeed at the end. And um again, we go

[01:36] back to the risk or ruin thing. That's

[01:37] that's kind of where you see a lot of

[01:39] really smart people hit ruin is like you

[01:40] have to be willing to understand your

[01:42] edge, understand the risk in taking your

[01:45] edge, and I'm willing to take that bet.

[01:46] >> I mean, to be honest, I lose confidence

[01:48] in my edge all the freaking time. And I

[01:50] think maybe that's what I think that's

[01:52] probably been advantageous because it's

[01:55] and it's kept me working and and and

[01:59] trying to improve because I mean I think

[02:01] the thing is markets are always getting

[02:03] more efficient like I truly believe that

[02:04] it's the same in financial markets and

[02:06] so I think that at some point I've

[02:09] always said like at some point I'm

[02:11] probably going to lose my edge or my

[02:14] edge is going to dwindle a lot and and

[02:17] so I I think the hardest thing is to

[02:19] know when you have lost your edge and

[02:21] somebody smart um said to me recently

[02:24] that what most people don't budget for

[02:27] like having an extended down run

[02:30] >> [music]

[02:30] >> um at the end of their career basically

[02:33] because

[02:34] you know you think you you have an edge

[02:36] and you keep betting and and you do for

[02:39] a while but when that edge does dry up

[02:41] it's going to take a little while for

[02:42] you to actually figure it out um and so

[02:45] you will sort of give money back there

[02:47] but I think it is really hard to know

[02:50] especially if you're kind of creating

[02:52] CLV for yourself uh at that that point.

[02:55] Like I mean Right Angle Sports is a

[02:56] great example like they're they because

[02:58] of the reputation they're still

[02:59] generating CLV and and they're going to

[03:02] continue doing that I think at least for

[03:04] a little while whether or not they

[03:05] actually have an edge. So um it's it's

[03:08] not like it's something I can like go

[03:10] back test as well. I mean there there's

[03:11] things I can look for but there are

[03:13] areas where I certainly like have

[03:15] actually lost an edge. Um, I think my my

[03:18] edge betting major league baseball like

[03:20] decreased over time. Um, especially

[03:23] since I didn't really invest a ton in

[03:25] model improvements in the later years

[03:27] and I like I think my last year betting

[03:29] baseball was basically break even. But

[03:31] at that point that was more like I

[03:33] decided basically not to invest more in

[03:35] time into baseball because the data is

[03:37] so good and everybody has it and it's

[03:39] like it's it's a lot harder and sport

[03:41] like that.

[03:41] >> Uh, no. I guess I'm just arrogant. Uh,

[03:45] no. I've really never had a market where

[03:47] I'm like, I think I'm not getting the

[03:50] best of it.

[03:51] >> Yes, absolutely. I've lost confidence in

[03:53] various edges over the years. The first

[03:56] time I ever met Rufus,

[03:58] he was betting baseball. I was betting

[04:00] baseball. We started talking. We started

[04:01] realizing we had the same exact edge. We

[04:04] were betting the same thing. And we we

[04:05] kind of thought this was something and

[04:06] not a lot of people knew about or could

[04:08] figure out. and he he said to me

[04:11] something like about the baseball season

[04:15] and I said, "Oh no, I don't think I have

[04:17] an edge there." And he's like, "Then

[04:18] we're definitely doing the same thing."

[04:20] And a year or so later, he's like, "I

[04:22] think I need to give this up. I don't

[04:24] think there's an edge in this angle

[04:25] anymore." With respect to him, I'm not

[04:27] going to say what the angle was. And I

[04:29] said, "Oh, no. I think I think it's

[04:31] still there. I think it's still there.

[04:32] I'm going to keep going." Well, sure

[04:33] enough, I stayed with it for about a

[04:35] year more, about a year and a half more.

[04:38] Was not a winning experience. in that

[04:39] year and a half. Rufus was right.

[04:41] Imagine that. Uh and uh yeah, definitely

[04:45] lost my edge, lost my confidence in my

[04:46] edge, and it was kind of miserable to

[04:48] know that I should have quit this

[04:50] earlier. I think I have an edge, but I

[04:53] don't. Um it's it's not a fun

[04:54] experience.

[04:55] >> A little bit this past year, um ROI

[04:59] dipped. It's still pretty good, but um

[05:03] you know there there were probably you

[05:04] know two and 3 week stretches where you

[05:07] know you start questioning what's going

[05:09] on then you have to go back start

[05:10] analyzing things and just real I I

[05:14] realized that I was probably making some

[05:16] mistakes in some spots. It actually

[05:18] helped me out was I was getting like a

[05:20] lot of fills coming back to me that I

[05:24] didn't want or they weren't as balanced

[05:26] as I'd want them to be. and it actually

[05:28] led to some self-reflection to see some

[05:31] mistakes that I was actually making in

[05:33] some of the spots that I'm betting.

[05:35] >> Um, so there are times where you will

[05:36] see,

[05:38] so I'm more of a math-based individual,

[05:40] so I have seen things where, you know,

[05:43] somehow with 10% ROI,

[05:46] 24 straight bets lost. But I would say

[05:50] for me personally like my mindset is no

[05:53] matter how bad the day is and really I I

[05:56] never have like the chase you know like

[05:58] that's like a emotional state of usually

[06:02] people who chase they believe that they

[06:03] have something owed to them. So I have a

[06:05] very like strong mindset where I I

[06:06] understand I'm not owed anything like

[06:08] I'm lucky to be doing this profession

[06:10] like this is a very unique opportunity.

[06:13] It's different. Honestly, it's fun. And

[06:17] I would say like in general once the I

[06:20] might feel really down on an individual

[06:23] day. It's possible that I feel down on a

[06:27] week, but because of in general if you

[06:30] expose yourself to higher ROI events and

[06:33] betting, it is hard to really get down

[06:36] on yourself over a long period of time.

[06:38] And by the way, that's something that

[06:40] individuals should really think about

[06:42] themselves, like how do I react

[06:43] emotionally to betting. And one of the

[06:45] ways to, you know, keep a very calm head

[06:48] is to not have a lot of variance. Now,

[06:51] of course, you're giving up

[06:52] opportunities by passing up on a lot of

[06:54] small edges. But if swinging wildly and

[06:58] having bad losses affects you

[07:00] emotionally, then it makes a lot of

[07:01] sense to sometimes, especially if you're

[07:03] going to have a catastrophic event at

[07:04] the end of that, makes a lot of sense to

[07:06] avoid those moments. So for me, it

[07:09] really never goes past a day of feeling

[07:13] down on yourself. Again, a day for me is

[07:15] like could be 75 to 100 bets. But

[07:18] because I kind of realized the long run

[07:20] pretty quickly in betting. Personally,

[07:22] past a day it doesn't really I mean days

[07:25] can be really dark sometimes, but past a

[07:27] day not really. I don't have too much.

[07:29] >> Yeah, once a week. Um I mean like as I

[07:32] said, I'm like obsessive over the things

[07:35] that I'm betting on and and kind of

[07:37] analyzing it. uh and in some ways I

[07:40] think I have lost certain edges uh both

[07:42] because like books have adjusted uh and

[07:45] because the the markets have adjusted

[07:46] maybe I've revealed a little bit too

[07:47] much information about some of the

[07:49] things uh but I think like anything if

[07:51] you sort of take a high level view as I

[07:53] as I try to do uh you can apply certain

[07:56] thesis in different ways and continue to

[07:59] adapt uh and I always try and do that

[08:01] some the one thing that's been true of

[08:02] every single NFL season is that the

[08:04] things that I'm betting primarily in

[08:06] week one are never the things that I'm

[08:07] betting on in week

[08:09] Yes, actually a few I would say 2 3

[08:12] months ago I started to like really

[08:14] reflect on if I had had four months in a

[08:17] row of losing and I was wondering if you

[08:21] know the way I was doing live betting

[08:23] was working. Fortunately, we calculate

[08:25] things in the standard dev we have

[08:28] standard deviation calculator and you

[08:30] could see you know within reason it was

[08:32] a bottom 3% run but those happen. So

[08:36] fortunately it's all good now but I did

[08:38] think for about a week or two really

[08:41] like went through my history was like am

[08:42] I doing it right all the time uh

[08:45] probably you know every few months I

[08:48] think if you are betting into liquid

[08:50] efficient markets and you are not

[08:52] constantly questioning your edge you are

[08:54] doing something wrong and for me it's

[08:56] always been you know every time I'm on a

[08:58] downswing especially when I'm betting a

[09:01] market where I don't know for sure that

[09:04] I'm winning. So, if you're betting some

[09:05] small market where you have a very

[09:07] specific edge and you know, then you can

[09:09] kind of handle the variance. But if

[09:10] you're betting into really liquid

[09:12] markets, you know, like money lines for

[09:13] any sport and you lose a lot, you should

[09:16] always be questioning it. Um, and it's

[09:19] just talking with other people and

[09:20] making sure you still have it. And yeah,

[09:23] I still to this day don't even fully

[09:25] know if I actually have a big edge or

[09:28] even any edge in a lot of the more

[09:30] liquid markets that I bet in.

[09:33] >> [music]

 

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