00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
3, 2, 1,. Here we go. Oh wow, Professional Little intro there, kanish, how do you?
00:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
like that.
00:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You and I had not seen that prior to the last 30 seconds.
00:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was going to say we got a professional intro. Professional sponsor, we got the merch going professional merch. I mean this is a real life production now. Yeah, I mean professional sponsor, we got the merch going professional merch. I mean this is a real-life production now.
01:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, my goodness. Obviously that is the man, the myth, the legend himself Joey Knish, producer extraordinaire Zach Phillips, behind the controls on merely Brad Powers. Before we get to the chat that's been anxiously awaiting out nearly a month. They were in at 7 am. I'm looking. I think that's specific time. They were in at 7 am. I'm looking. I think that's specific time. They were in asking questions on the chat. So I'm not sure we'll get to everybody today.
01:30
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03:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Kanishanish, you and I have been talking a bunch, but uh, now we get to talk to our favorite group of people in the whole wide world, the chat I was gonna say I know the last conference preview episode we're like all right, gonna be good. Uh, not just you and I just chopping it up for, uh, nine straight previews. Get the chat back in here. Uh, I know we have people lined up ready to go. Hopefully we can get to as many as we can. Also, we got our new sponsor, um, for a couple of these week. One games has a couple of places that are, uh, half point better than than the market, and at least one that that I'm, I'm, I'll be comfortable with giving out here. So, uh, yeah, good deal. Wow, you're gonna fire right away. We'll get right into it firing away, but no, I think we can get right to it.
04:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, we'll have at least a couple of best bets at the end of the show. Again, if you're watching the conference previews, I think we're up to and then counting, obviously we're doing shows all offseason. I think we're over 50 bets that we've given out already. So while the other quote unquote, there you go, look at Zach given out already. So while the other quote unquote, there you go, look at zach has this up, and zach that is available for everyone to at least see. Not yet, not yet. Sorry, sorry, sorry, not yet, not yet. This will be up after the show today. This will be up after the show today okay cool after
05:01
the show today. You guys can check out if you missed any shows, any bets. You can at least track them. A lot of the value's gone. So I know a lot of you did see it because we we've literally been on this show and watched the odds move as we're doing the show. Oh, let's not beat around the bush, so they're, they're. I mean holt was in here at 7, 11 my time, so that's 10 eastern. He's in on the chat asking a question about louisiana. That's why I love this show. I mean we're just not talking LSU, alabama.
05:25
First question after a month is about the Raging Cajuns. There's an eight under minus 140 available Best bet territory. Wow, a lot of confliction on Louisiana in the marketplace. You and I bet under eight and a half. There's some people that liked over seven and a half. Eight might be the right number, although I will say I think seven's way more likely than nine. So I would. If, if that was the first number I saw was eight, I would be betting under. I don't know best bet Cause I made like a hundred bets, but it would be a bet that I would make.
05:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it's a little, I mean especially a little steep on the juice there at under 8.5, 140. But I agree with you totally in terms of I think 7 is much more likely than 9. Just think Sunbelt, with their schedule, is pretty low. It's going to be hard for anybody to get to 9 or 10 wins in that conference. So yeah, with Lee in the under there I wouldn't put it in best bet territory.
06:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And, as you can see, fanduel has 7.5 with the overjuice a little bit there. I wouldn't put it in best bet territory. And, as you can see, fanduel has seven and a half of the overduced a little bit there. I don't like the coach. So that's expecting a lot of a guy that's been under 500 to all of a sudden boom bang, get nine wins. I don't see that. Let's keep it rolling. 20 MC, 20 in the chat. I love the conference previews. Thank you for that. Some of the G5 ones are now a couple of weeks old. Any news out of camp for any team that drastically changes how you feel about them? No, I don't. I mean, has there been any news? I mean we've seen a little bit of market move against texas because of the running back situation. We've seen a little bit of move against notre dame because of the left tackle situation there. Uh, but group of five level, I mean there's been a bunch of starting quarterbacks named. Uh, I'll ask. You know, the surprise seems to be the Boise announcement.
07:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Does that change?
07:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
anything for you with Boise?
07:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I do think it maybe puts a little bit of a ceiling cap on where I thought they could go. I mean, you were thinking if everything went to plan, malachi Nelson comes in. He just couldn't get the opportunity to USC five-star number one guy. If he can't beat out Matt who again, I think is a good player, not not an NFL player, not a great talent Then it tells me I mean it just tells me Nelson can't play, or right now, for whatever reason that he's been a miss, and I think it would. I wouldn't say, like, you know, if you're a Boise and you're thinking our ceiling is undefeated, maybe win a playoff game well, they're not in oregon yeah, I, yeah, I mean you're right, right.
07:51
I just, I think that comes down to you know, uh, a level below that where you could still maybe go. You know, 10 and 2, 11 and 1, win the mountain west, get the g5 berth, but I, I don't think you can be this special, special team anymore. Um, because matt matt's just not that level of player I think the floor could be a little higher.
08:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I I think and they must like this kid, because I mean they were wanting to play him over taylan green last year yeah, yeah I know I personally didn't see it myself, but he must be very consistent in practice.
08:22
Uh, I didn't really do anything with their power rating. Hell, we don't know, malachi Nelson just might suck, I mean, it might not be very good, so it might end up being, you know, a decent positive. So I didn't touch anything there. I still think they deserve to be head and shoulders, the best team in the Mountain West there. Mason Bryant, in the chat he got in. Yeah, you did get in early, about six hours before the show. Mason, do you all like the over 55.5 in the Ireland game? Saw it come down from 56.5 over the weekend. Let's talk that it is week zero. Let's talk the big game of week zero. College game day is going to be there, so that will be exciting to kick the morning off. Then there will be a noon start there between Florida State and Georgia Tech. Pretty good matchup, honestly. Honestly to start out the season. A good conference uh game. Uh, have you bet? Now I'll just blatantly ask you did you bet cider total yet in this game?
09:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think you took a little georgia tech about three, four months ago yeah, I was gonna say some georgia tech, a, why not a big position or anything. Obviously you couldn't get. It wasn't super liquid at the time. Um, a little bit of georgia tech early was kind, I think. We talked on the show that we would hope it. You know, maybe it would tick back. It did not tick back up, it ticked actually way down. Um, and you'll see, I mean, if you're uh, yeah, that I was going to say this is one of the lines. That is the only I got the screen.
09:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think that's the only 10 and a half in the market. I I made it 12. So I mean, if it was a normal week I'd say, yep, let's go floor state week. One's a little different, where I need a little bit extra to make a bet. But uh, I'm waiting to bet fsu, I'll lay. I want to lay the 10 because we ain't going back to 14 or anything like that agreed.
09:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That would be. That would be the only side I'm looking at now, uh, but it's same with you where I'm not running to to bet a 10 and a half. You know, I hope that it it leaks and I you know what when it's. It's in that range. Now, and these games, especially these standalone games, I think, trade so much If you're paying attention, you know, have to have the bet stamp alerts on or any of that stuff. Your fan dual pull day, like I think you'll see it hit at some point, uh, whether where it closes, you know, gave a little bit of margin but I think you'll see 10, maybe, maybe a rogue nine and a half at some point. Um, as far as the total, you I I recall you saying like the blue horseshoe was going to be like at some point, like this under was going to come back down, uh, because it's an outdoor, you know, field on that they travel across the country and all that.
10:49
I'll be honest with you. I would be looking to play back at some point. Um and really yeah, yeah, I'm not dying uh to. I knew I figured it would come back down, um, but this is one I think uh we'll call it 54-ish around the buy price there as looking to get back on some over positions.
11:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think Georgia Tech's a dead-night over team. I'll tell you that I like their offense. I mean watch the spring game. I mean first string, second string, third string, up and down the field, walk-ons, looking like Julian Edelman at their slot receivers. I mean, I don't think they figured out. They got a new defensive coordinator. I don't know if they got it figured out right away. I think florida state can run the ball on this team. So, uh, yeah, I, I can see that I. I haven't bet it, though that's crazy. I'm not bet setter cider total yet they're just. It's not a game that I'm not wild about betting. As of right now. That can change.
11:42
Uh, let's keep it rolling here now, brendan, we did address the boise quarterback news. Hopefully that question is answered for you there. Uh, charles in the chat, hey, good to have you back, charles, one of our good long time listeners. Uh, bet online. Put up some new markets. I haven't seen this first. Any value in the fcs champion market, low limits, but uh, anything in the first coach fired pitman five to one seems good. I have not bet futures fcs, now I have. I'll have to get with you. I have bet probably 10 or 12 fcs games. I've kept it really super in-house quiet, uh. But uh, that's all I bet in fcs so far yeah, no, I don't.
12:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm taking a look at some of the future stuff. Usually don't, um, don't get into those, uh, until like about playoff time.
12:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean my pop, I am never going to release FCS power rings, but I can tell you right now that top five is exactly what I have.
12:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Top five South.
12:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Dakota States One. I actually have Montana state too. We'll talk more about that because obviously they play this week. I think people are stunned. I'm not stunned that they're big favorites over New Mexico, montana, north Dakota State North Dakota State 3, montana 4, villanova 5. So somebody's on top of it, somebody knows what they're doing there. Yep, there isn't parity in the FCS. I think there's a clear top four Villanova I. I mean they gave South Dakota State a game last year, but I, I, that's it.
13:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, there's no parody in FCS football. That's what I, you, you took the words, that's where I was gonna go with it was. This feels very uh, college football of four or five years ago when, like you, going into the season, there was like four teams that could win it. That's basically the FCS level. So, uh, I would say, don't waste your money on any long shots there and wait till the playoff bracket before you want to place anything.
13:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And I still have South Dakota State. Even though I downgraded their power rating, they're still four or five points better than anybody else. So I just no, I'm not looking to bet long shots there. Charles also asked oh, he mentioned the Pittman. Have you bet that, that market? I've seen that up at a couple places. The first coach no college football.
13:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think that's a better market in the nfl, um, where you can get some concrete news and like buy weeks when guys are gonna get college football. You never really know when someone's gonna get and some schools just aren't gonna. Can somebody mid-year, you know that's so um. No, I haven't. That's not one I like. I think that's more of a market I like to get into in the nfl and college football so I got a sneaky one for you.
14:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, if they leave it up on uh saturday, on saturday next week, what?
14:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
game. I know, I already know where you go with this yeah.
14:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So if they leave the market up I shouldn't even be saying this uh, the loser of the florida miami game I would be maybe interested in, especially if there's a stupid decision by one of them that cost them the game, uh, then that seat will get hot quickly. So right around seven o'clock on next saturday seven o'clock eastern that would be a market I'd look at, maybe, uh, because I think they become the favorite uh there fitment deservedly right now. Uh, charles also, oh, I'm looking here. Uh, we doing, uh, yeah, you know what? Uh this, we're gonna probably tie in with a parlay. We're gonna be doing some new stuff because of the fan duel sponsorship, so we'll be doing, uh, a parlay money line.
15:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We'll, you know something like that round robin yeah, we would definitely be doing that, I don't know, like for week zero, with a few, you know select there probably, but week one we will definitely have something yeah, yeah, there's not enough options and we'll see.
15:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, there's some fcs games and I'm looking my chops. There's one in particular I'm looking to bet. I'm just they gotta put up the lines. Austin in the chat. Hey guys, any thoughts on Syracuse? Minus 17 still playable against Ohio. Nah, I'm passing at 17. What do we give it out? 15 and a half.
15:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean I'd actually be at flat 17. I think I would go maybe half unit or however you do it, I'd still play some flat. I think it's got a little bit of room. Oh, you still think it's got a little room? I mean most places are. I think you've seen few places trade 18, some 17 and a half. So if you got a flat 17 minus 110, uh, I think that's still okay.
15:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But um other than that, yeah, not nothing too crazy or you can watch our mac preview where we gave out syracuse there you go, there you go uh dylan in the chat.
16:02
Uh, I know you guys both have texas in your top five, your power rings, but both seem low on them. Is that strictly relative to market or anything? There's more serious issues? I think it's a little bit of both. It's certainly relative to market. Uh, I mean the market was treating this team I I don't know, because I mean we both had them in their top five and yet, I mean, under 10 and a half wins was screaming. For me it's just a tougher schedule. Um, if you look what made Texas great last year the best Texas team in 15 years them two pair of defensive tackles that they had that separated them from the rest of the pack. Uh, they no longer, uh, have those two guys. They're elite wide receiver core. They no longer, uh, you know, have a guy that can take you out and you know, beat, beat you over the top and Xavier Worthy. So losing guys like that and then cluster injuries already at running back. So, yeah, I, I'm still down on Texas as we speak right now.
16:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean I think you got to stay down down relative to like their initial stuff came out almost as like you would have them in like a number two rated type of team and I think ten and a half, just kind of based on some of the games and the way they line up.
17:11
And also I think the opportunity was there in a few of those games where it would be game of the year, that just lines that were we thought were inflated getting Michigan at home as a four-point dog to Texas, getting Texas A&M as a three and a half, four and a half point dog to Texas there, getting Texas A&M as a three and a half, four and a half point dog to Texas there. It just kind of lined up where you're getting that you know a couple of really nice spots to fade them as as a road, you know road chalk over a field goal against a really really good football team. So I think that was more of it. So I don't think either of us are big Quinn. We're, in terms of Quinn, who was guys thinking he's an elite quarterback type of player.
17:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, some of it from there. Sean Higgs with the super chat. I think this is his second one, Big super chat 73 bucks, sean, I'm thinking number three. Wow, a buck for all the people waiting and the producers behind the scenes, sean. We appreciate it going strictly to the producers behind the scenes, sean. We appreciate it Going strictly to the new producers we've got. Obviously, zach Phillips is the producer extraordinaire, but we've got some more people behind the scenes and we appreciate that. $73, sean, and that's not your first rodeo. Man really appreciate that.
18:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Sean Higgs baby, a legendary, hit the books. We love him.
18:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm sorry folks, he's our best guy. I know we got a bunch of guys that are active, but he puts the money where his mouth is. Yeah, he definitely took.
18:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Vivian out of the top 10. I got Higgs three spots and then giving him all three, then Vivian's out.
18:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He's South Dakota State of the show. He's favored over everybody by a margin. Now, speaking of Sean, I see he's favored over everybody by a margin. Now, uh, speaking of sean, I see he's. Uh, we need a walking condition, a tank top, from now on. I see.
18:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, I was doing a bunch of videos apparently, apparently the walk and bets videos are taking off here, but, uh, usually you have to have different assets to get those to blow up. Then, uh, that matt. So but hey, hey, maybe joey tank top. Uh, it's got, you know, you don't, don't call it. You know, don't call it a comeback baby. You will see.
19:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, you're doing that. I see you went on. What A couple of rants over the weekend.
19:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're in mid season form, I'm really, yeah, people, I got people ask. I probably had a dozen people ask me if I'm drinking caffeine again and I said, no, I on life. Baby, this is a college football is back I'm endorphins kicking in.
19:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're walking, you're swimming, you're doing a bunch of stuff, you're taking flights. We finally see in the flesh. What is this guy?
19:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't even know who he is I was good you might add some caffeine on top of that. I might, like you know, cure cancer like that seed in the mood where all the numbers are floating around and I'm just like you know it's all coming together. I'm like Brad, we're 30-0 this week. I can't, you know, I can't I. Finally, I solved life.
19:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Can we just have a week where we go like seven or eight? No, oh my.
19:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
God.
19:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We need to win this year. We really do. I see someone's making comments oh, I can't wait to watch the show. Whatever, fade, fade away, I don't care, uh unbelievable. I think I would not do that this year. I'm just letting you know. Uh, trevor in the chat can you guys take a look at the passing receiving season-long props on fan duel really like concepcion. He's the nc state uh receiver over 725 with its scheme. Uh, and a new veteran quarterback. Have you, I see it? And a few books, including fan duel. Have you been betting? I know you got your, your guy franchise yeah, I.
20:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So I said this is on me. I will take an action for the midweek show to have. We bet one yesterday there's no midweek show.
20:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You mean friday, right anyway?
20:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
friday show. I'm calling you the friday show now, well, midweek, because now we got a saturday show. So not now, but, um, the friday show. Well, I bet a lot of these, but at a different book fan duel, just put theirs up. I will say last night we bet, let me make sure it's still the same. Uh, this will be a little bonus action from the man himself, the franchise, kf Nussmeier, over the 277.5, the passing yard. So the LSU's quarterback, garrett Nussmeier, to go over that 277.550. Probably over 5.5. Meier to go over that. Two, seven, seven, five, 50, uh, private five and a half. Um, so yeah, if that that that wets your whistle. There there's a little bonus. Uh, season long play.
21:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Mark it down. Put it in the file.
21:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's one that I get. You're kind of betting on health there. If, if, if he stays healthy, he's going to go over that number. Just the way they do offense, the way they throw. They're not going to be a run-of-the-ball team, so that's when, if he plays the requisite 12 games, you got an under there.
21:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're kind of betting on a health play. As far as Concepcion man, I don't do player projections, I don't even do fantasy, so it's not my wheelhouse I will say that that he was the main guy last year and you think, okay, he was, you know, and he's still probably the alpha in the room and they're going to throw a lot more. They got more of a capable quarterback. They got other weapons that Rogers kid from Ohio state, jolly the tight end from Connecticut man I don't think that's a slam dunk. I will have to get back with you on that.
22:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't originate those numbers. Yeah, that's I I. I mean, I how many got?
22:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
up like this is unbelievable. I bet your boy franchise is licking his chops. I was looking at one of the other books. There was like 50 players up.
22:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm like this is amazing yeah, they, I know they they. It's a different time nowadays, baby, but yeah, fan duels gave through. That was the only one. I think they honestly did a good job on a lot of the the quarter, but the conception you know what I'll get back to I'll. I agree, I think the numbers are tough, but um, last year. Yeah, what did he finish?
22:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
with last year. He was their only guy at the skill position last year yeah, yeah.
23:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So now, yeah, I agree, they added a little bit more.
23:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
39 so I see why it seems like it's a slam dunk. He was over 100 yards over it last year and they got a better quarterback and a better offense, but he's got more weapons around him. All right, we'll get back to that one. Yeah, charles, in the chat. Uh, we riled up some big 10 fan bases. Oh, this is more on you tweeting between iowa and rutgers. Which team do you think has a better chance to average 20 points again? Rutgers?
23:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, yeah, chuck, yeah, yeah, yes, and I again, we, we not like uh, you know the rutgers keep, but rutgers has a lot of infrastructure outside of quarterback that Iowa just doesn't have. I mean, I think they've got one decent wide receiver, a tight end. But yeah, if you're looking for positive takes on Iowa, you're not going to find them on Joey K. This team's going to have to win. Basically, pull a repeat of last year for me to say anything nice about it, and then I still won't say anything nice because it'll cost me a lot of money at that point that's the one team where I just have really disagreed with the market this summer.
24:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Iowa, you watch the big 10 preview show. Check that out. And as far as that fan, I don't think it was a big 10 fan, I just think it was a goof on uh on the internet. I know that you went to town on him kudos oh, yeah, yeah, I don't think he would.
24:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I don't think that was a, I don't know.
24:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He's trying to bet we were just saying we don't think Rutgers and eight or nine win team. What's he want to bet? He wants to bet us, you know, 100 grand. Uh, he's gonna go over seven and a half. I went off the market. Sure, let's take the bet, right, right, yeah, that's what we said 100k.
24:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
If you give me the right number, we're like we didn't even bet it. We didn't even bet the rutgers, like it was like I bet over on there.
24:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet over five and a half over six wins. We were just saying that this team had the capability of winning eight, nine games with the right quarterback and wasn't even a negative take on rutgers. I like rutgers outside of quarterback this year. Uh, ryan in the chat, yep, I knew we'd get to this montana state getting smashed. Ten and a half for new mexico. Is it a buy point? No, no, I think.
25:13
If the market has guts, I think it goes higher. I think eventually we'll get a buyback on New Mexico, but it's not right now. I don't think. I mean, if you power rate FCS and I do this number still can climb. And even my I see my good old buddy, uh, bill Connolly, has this game 14, just to show you. It's. Uh, we, we, we told, we tried to tell you what, like six weeks ago we said, hey, this, uh, we laid it and everyone was like, well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, it's going. Ryan in the chat, where did you guys get most team news? Insider info 247X? Yeah, probably those two, to be honest with you.
25:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it's kind of a conglomeration of 247, twitter X. There's still some schools have some beat people out there, like some places have beats, some people have school info you get a lot less have beats than yeah, yeah so like, but, um, yeah and just general, like there's some.
26:16
This is if you gotta be around for a while, some message boards of team message boards have people that are like that have been established and been around for a while. I know you, in most cases you're not going to know how they get their info. It might be like you know the ad's nephew or something that like wants to feel important online. So, um, sometimes message boards you'll get, you get some good stuff, so, but it really, yeah, there is is no one-stop shop.
26:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree You've got to sit through a lot of shit, but sometimes message boards are breaking, first to break, and then you know, have a good network, you know you'll send me a message, I'll send other people. You know, have stuff like that. That's awesome. It's tough to catch everything. Ryan in the chat, is there a quarterback in the big 10 you trust to win big games besides Dylan Gabriel? Oh, wow. That's a good question, that is a good question.
27:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know if there is. Is there?
27:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That is a very good question, Big games yeah, penn State kid, I can't trust yet Miller Moss no, I don't know yet lincoln, I guess I trust lincoln riley's off uh system. Offensive system yeah yeah there isn't. There isn't a single one, I don't think. Hence why, if you watch the big ten show, we took uh. We took a little oregon to win the big ten. We laid minus 300 oregon to win uh to the least make the playoff.
27:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So boom I. You know what. It's fine, it's good. Who would be your number two rate? Even even you take trust. Who'd be your number two rated quarterback in the Big Ten overall?
27:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
right now.
27:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Miller Moss. I say I know I most people would ask.
28:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I trust Lincoln.
28:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Riley's system and I just saw him throw six touchdown passes. If he's healthy, number three I might go Curtis Rourke.
28:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh gee, I'm anxious to see what Drew does at Penn State with Kotel Nicky as offense coordinator. I mean he protected the football. But total Nikki as offense coordinator, I mean he protected the football but he didn't do it. I mean he didn't even try to throw it down the field last year. So I boy to be determined, there I will get a good look at Penn state. Boy, no one's talked about that game man, that's a really intriguing game. At West Virginia week one We'll get a good idea, at least that one. Where are we at here, charles, in the chat again.
28:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Jack Tuttle's in the chat there, yeah.
28:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean Jack Tuttle. He's going to be holding the clipboard.
28:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Unfortunately, if you haven't been taking, if you didn't watch the Big Ten preview or follow in the Michigan news, tuttle got hurt. He was hurt in the spring, he got hurt again in the fall. Nothing, I think, long, long term. But I don't think he'll be your starter.
29:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Game one for Fresno live in the uh chat Miller Moss 41 when the Heisman. No, I don't think your SC wins enough.
29:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Aiden Childs, that's a pretty good off the beaten path people, the Sparty, if Michigan state had a any players on the roster. Yeah, people have been talking. I think he will. I think he'll put up eventually.
29:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think next year. Yeah, he might, might end up being the best there. So Our W fan 23 kudos, that's off the beaten path. Yeah, I think if he just had a little bit more help around him, I think if he just had a little bit more help around him, I that would be a really good answer there. Yeah, uh, joey K, getting some love from the Cougars we need answers about the tweet today Uh, uh, tbd.
29:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, cbd, chuck, we'll have to. Uh, you might have to come back for that one. We'll keep, keep that in. Uh, keep keep that in pocket and you know, as a little teaser.
30:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll have to, you know, save. We'll have to do a couple. The Saturday show. We're going to go halftime at one of the games, not a set time, but maybe we'll say that for one of the night games that we do one of these days. Answers like that A little Joey after dark. Steven Robinson in the chat. Everyone should practice bankroll management Absolutely. Having said that, I'll the chat, everyone should practice bankroll management absolutely. Uh, having said that, I'll be betting each week, zero game is implicit with the super bowl. Yeah, I hear you. Uh, I'll be betting fcs games. Uh, if they, they come out just right, I can tell you that. But I can be honest with you, I I don't even have. I don't have anything on the florida state, georgia tech game. Yet I didn't bet delaware state, hawaii, because everyone else I mean, I'm not looking at the screen some people are laying uh. 27 and a half, I guess, is where it was. Uh, but that's about right now. I just had. The only thing I have in pocket right now is montana state. That's it.
30:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's sad oh, no I got smu too uh, yeah, and that that's where you know what. Why bury the lead? I think our friends at FanDuel have the only 26 and a half in the market on SMU.
31:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're laying it.
31:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm laying it. I know we've laid it. If you've been watching over the summer, we've laid it at some, but I'm still okay laying the 26 and a half. It's the only one out there, I think, nevada especially. I know they're starting Brendan Lewis, who I just think is terrible. I think that Chubba Purdy would have been an upgrade. Apparently he banged up for some of the news that came out today and again, neither of those options is great. We're laying 26 and a half, yeah, yeah.
31:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, hit the books off, the fun start. Lay four touchdowns on the road.
31:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I hear you, I I'm and that one's just a as far as best number in the market. It's your only 26 and a half out there. Um, I think this is closing row around the 28 range.
32:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, I don't disagree. I don't see any buyback coming in on Nevada anytime soon, unless it crosses 28. That has been the biggest. We've been following it, whether it's week zero or week. Well, there it goes. Somebody hit it. All right, there you go.
32:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There it goes. You got to be quick with the trigger. That's why you watch the live show, folks.
32:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yep, got to watch the live show. I already moved the point to that very key number 27. I hope it falls 27. That'd be a good feather in your cap, man, if you follow week zero or week one, any of the games. That's been the biggest mover Opened as low as 18 and a half. My goodness, ryan in the chat and I'm I'm just going to apologize in advance. Guys, we're not going to get to everybody. Uh, today it looks like you guys were active. We'll try to go a little longer but uh, we're not going to get to everybody in the chat today. As far as questions, uh, do you like, dislike or no opinion on each of these three conference win totals? Cincinnati over two and a half minus one, 30. Ohio state under eight minus 110. Stanford over one and a half minus 120. Kentucky over three minus 105. I haven't bet any of them yet. Buckeye game, I guess, would push, but my pure math numbers would say a little under there, I guess. Stanford over one and a half minus 120.
33:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I guess the problem with I would say, my only argument with the Stanford one is I like the reason we like the Stanford win total is mostly because of their non-con so and I know that win it's up like a win, but they have, you know, tcu, which we think they're live, cal Poly and then San Jose State, three as far as non-conference games. So I mean they should win two of those and a third. So I kind of like the regular Stanford win total, depending on what you're getting, you know price you're getting. So, um, that would be and yeah, yeah, I don't know, I would be neutral on that that Stanford one that'd be the one I would bet, because we still, technically, we're looking for tcu.
34:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's still being upset, uh. So we need them to win two. We bet over three and a half on and give it out on the show. We're basically calling for two conference wins, are we not?
34:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, no, that's fair, I would go.
34:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, right here, and then they'll be t and I you know it'll happen.
34:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It go three, you know, to start and then finish.
34:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I hear you. Uh, I still would bet over one and a half there. I you know I haven't bet that yet. I don't know why. I'm like looking through my uh paperwork to see why I haven't bet that. Probably cause I've already bet over three and a half. It's kind of a similar bet. Wake Forest I think they can win that game. It's at home. I even got them favored there. Stanford for me on that one. Brendan in the chat, some rumblings that PJ Fleck flirted with UCLA and agents have made some calls. Joe Rossi jumped ship. Do we still feel good? Week one Well, he brings up some good points.
35:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I hear your buddy tailgate wants.
35:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I know he wants North Carolina man.
35:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
People lurking in the weeds about that. To me that was more of an. I'm not going to sell you on the you know the row, the boat being the best programmer. It was more of a North.
35:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Carolina.
35:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Against a team that is much more physical against a defense that I don't believe in in UNC, with a quarterback system that you know, the Max Johnson was the big transfer and all the reports out of camp were that they're going to go quarterback by committee to see who can win the job during the season.
35:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, and I think Minnesota is going to do exactly, they're going to run the football yeah, they're going to run the football and they got a guy that's capable of play action pass actually complete passes the tight ends and the receivers, so they're the more trustworthy commodity. I hear you on that. So no, I haven't gotten scared on that one yet. Charles, in the chat, any FCS week 01 you guys can vaguely hint at without ruining the party.
36:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, yeah, we chat any fcs week zero one.
36:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You guys can vaguely hint at without ruining the party.
36:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, yeah, we gotta wait on that one. Yeah, I gotta always got people I can say this I have taken.
36:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I have taken a lot more. This is I've taken a lot of scs teams. I have not been laying it with the. The fan duel has like 30 games up. I can tell you most of the bets I made are on the dog. That should be good for you. Fabulous one, I'll give you one. No, no, I'm not going to say it. Sure I'm not. I bet more dogs than favorites, that's all I'll say. Fabulous one, happy week, zero guys.
36:36
Where does the love for Montana State end? Yeah, we talked about this. It for Montana State end? Yeah, we talked about this. It ain't stopping at 10. The love ends. Maybe when the public gets involved on game day. They're going to be stunned, but I think we're. I could see us going 13. I don't know if we hit 14. I think that's certainly be some buyback, but I think we're more likely to go up from right now, peter in the chat hitting FSU if it gets a flat 10. Yeah, I would, from right now. Uh, peter in the chat hitting fsu if it gets a flat 10, yeah I would I would minus 10 is gonna go for me there.
37:04
Yep, and I agree with what you said earlier in the show. I think we'll see it eventually. I don't know if a man you said nine and a half. I'll tell you what you. Let me know when you see that I would. So I I don't know we did. Actually, we saw a little bit of buyback today on florida. Did you see that? Uh Went to 11. There were a few places we were going back to 11.5. Not FanDuel though. Yep, they're 10.5. I would lean Florida State there. D Lee 23 in the chat. When do we buy? Nevada Got to go to 28.5. We don't. If you just followed us and you got in early. Smu Joe in the chat.
37:37
How much do you think A&M's offense will be able to move the ball against Notre Dame's defense? Seems like that matchup isn't getting enough attention, overshadowed by Notre Dame's offensive line situation. Yeah, that's why I like the under more than anything. I mean I agree with the move on A&M because I mean Notre Dame doesn't win these games. Uh, atmosphere, uh, temperature, uh, the Notre Dame offense line against A&M's defensive line. I get all that, but you're right, I think Notre Dame's defense is going to get after A&M. And boy, if you read the practice reports, they have not been flattering about A&M's offense, the Texas A&M. So the old tout service gave out under. That would be my preference in this game. Now am I running to bet under 46.5 when I gave it out at 49? No, but I'd still lean that way. I we're in a for a rock fight, I think 20 to 17.
38:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I, I. I agree with you in terms of it being an absolute slog. I'm a little bit more optimistic on the, and I know some of the practice reports haven't been glowing. I'm taking that with a little bit of a grain of salt.
38:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm a little bit of a grain of salt. I'm a little bit more optimistic, so you're betting A&M.
38:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're going to go best bet A&M. I mean, I liked it a lot better when we were talking about it on the show. This one is like points at a premium there. I don't want to do that.
38:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, wait, we'll come back to this one.
39:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
See if there's some buy-by want to do well wait, we'll come back to this one.
39:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh see, if there's some, we'll come back. I got a lot of thoughts on this game, so we'll we'll talk at length on that game. I'm kind of torn. Uh, sky has fallen. Chicken little says A&M is clearly the right side. I got some other thoughts, though that are a little bit more pro-notre. Dame zach in the chat says 360 live viewers, only 166 likes. Come on, I don't have to be einstein to figure it out. Hit that like button if you're watching. Folks need a more equal distribution there. Just hit the like button, that's all you can do. Thank you for watching, though make sure you hit like, like and just subscribe. Uh, joe, is there any reasonable scenario? You take delaware state as a stinky road dog against hawaii man. Just to put in perspective, you don't follow fcs football, delaware state's perennial, perennially a top, bottom 10. I almost said top 10, bottom 10, bottom 10 fcs program. I, I don't see it. I just they could be just that bad. I mean, hawaii cannot play a good game and still just crush them.
40:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it's getting in that range of where you're going to be.
40:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What do you need to bet? I mean, I need like 42.5 just for shits and giggles. The good news is it's the Hawaii start time midnight, so I mean we are loaded all day, week zero. We only have seven games, but man, we are loaded for 12-plus hours of great act. I love it. So I miss that. Don't you miss that? That used to be special, the bailout game being Hawaii. Oh yeah, we don't get that that much anymore.
40:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
The old settle-up game.
40:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Put it all on the island. Yeah, luke in the chat, any insight into UNLV Houston? Sneakily, I like the Cougars. Well, you'd be alone because uh, it's been all UNLV money all summer. Uh, I'm very anti-Houston, so I, I think what I? I'll just say this I mean, that's, that's a pretty big game. That's not getting enough love, a big swing game for both teams. I just there's a reason why I crossed through three and it's not because I was betting five dimes on it. I can tell you that.
41:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean obviously UNLV. I'm not as down on Houston as some.
41:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to go head-to-head on the win total three and a half.
41:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Give me one. You know what, hold on one sec yeah, yeah, you look at that. Yeah, they got my. Yeah, they do play my rice and uh where's the wins? Man, this game is rice. Yeah, I was gonna say, did not a lot of layups.
41:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I seen him last year.
41:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, maybe we'll talk Friday. All right, we'll talk Friday Over June 10th. I love.
41:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Willie Fritz, I hate this schedule. I mean they're going to have to pull some upsets even to get to four. They're going to have to pull at least two upsets to get to four and take care of business in this UNLV game, which I that's not a slam dunk. In the rice game is not a slam dunk. There's not one slam dunk win on the schedule. I think Oklahoma is their other non-conference. Not good, spencer, well good. If uh Kanish decides to go against me, may I throw him a bone. He's a, he's at a disadvantage. I say that and he'll probably win every bet against me. Spencer, in the chat thoughts on Old Dominion, south Carolina, under 54 and a half, reports say Gamecocks D is legit Offense may not want to show much before Kentucky in week two. Yeah, our good old buddy friend of the show gave out under there. I can understand that.
42:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, same. I don't know if I'm buying. This would be like the last buy number would be 54 and a half there. Uh, I wouldn't even have 54, I wouldn't touch but any. If you got a 54 and a hook, uh, that'd be the last. Yeah, no, 53.
42:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Right, now no, no, 53 and a half. I still would lay it with the side I gave out. The old tout service gave out south carolina on the side I I could see him. I know you're we're wanting to bet under on a big favorite. I mean that doesn't correlate, but I like south carolina at the current.
43:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah they're I the talk. I mean it's just talk, but that I think. No, that the south carolina quarterback and defense uh, I saw some you know stuff going around there that I did too you feel pretty confident in both those, so we will see the problem is.
43:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's just all talk. Right now I'm ready to get the games going, man, yeah, especially I prefer hearing negative talk this time of year because I hear nothing but good. Oh, positive, this guy looks good, this guy looks good, this guy looks good, everybody looks good.
43:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come on, everybody looks good in the fall camp, unless you're Iowa.
43:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that is the one thing that caught my eye when I saw how negative the reports were on Iowa. It made us feel pretty good, didn't it to be outliers? It's that meme. It's us with the sword against the incoming army of Iowa money. I'd rather be the guy with the sword. Who's more likely to bottom out, miss a bowl, wazoo or Oregon state? Well, I don't think either bottom out and miss a bowl. Their schedules are so much easier than what they faced last year in a pack 12. So even though both teams have, you know, big time turnover, oregon state a little bit more turnover. Their offense I've not heard good things about, but I've heard their defense is functional.
44:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I think both make a bowl game. Yeah, I mean, I agree with you. The step down in competition is significant for probably the best rendition of the Pac-12 we've seen in some time. To the.
44:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Mountain West.
44:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know the pseudo Mountain West team. So, yeah, I'm with you there, I would. I would pick oregon state though of the teams that I think could bottom out a little more especially. Just you lose you. Jonathan smith takes some, you know a couple of pieces with them. Uh, lost a lot more in a transfer portal. So I and I just think that that brand of smith ball that they were kind of in the program, it's kind of I think you can fall off pretty quickly when he's not there.
45:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Dave in the chat. Yeah, we talked, floor stay, we lean, floor stay. We'll talk more about that game at length on the Friday show. Mr Roboto six, what's up with this? Umass? These are Michigan line move four point swing in a week. South Alabama down to five more. Texas now feels too far, uh, low.
45:21
Uh, I'll say this um, do I want to say this? I don't know, yeah, it's, it's a market influencer and I just you can be anti-tout, anti-pick buying, but man, if you want to understand, uh, the market moves, get in front of moves and stuff like that. There's a few services out there that I mean. If you want to be legit about this and want to follow the moves and understand, hey, why that move was an injury or somebody released something or whatnot, if you have the bankroll, do it. I mean I, I don't know why people wouldn't want that information. Why is this line moving? Why is this line moving? Hell, I subscribe to 10, 10 or 12 guys. Whether I really like the guy or not, if they move markets, I want to know why the market was moved. Do you agree or disagree with that?
46:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I definitely agree with that and it gets a bad rap because you know 99% of the other is crap. You know, if you're going to go in some Discord and you know be, you know buying SGPs, then yeah, you're going to get frustrated in that. But yeah, yeah, if you're interested, you know for the people that we don't usually watch this show and tune in and stuff and want to get into so we can give you as much info as you know we have as far as why stuff is moving. But I agree it the more knowledge you have of why things moving or who's moving it, even if you disagree with it. But if you know, if you think the guy's an effin idiot.
46:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, you know, play against it then why would you like this guy's on this? He sucks.
46:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Let's go with the opposite way so but I'm I, I I agreed with both of his play at the original prices. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go any for, like I wouldn't be betting UMass minus three or North Texas at five. So those are one of those. I agree with both sides of where he got them. Not anymore Playback. I like the UMass one more.
47:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I personally like the UMass. One more Touchdown my pants. Can we get some week zero Nishi moles, for God's sake.
47:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What's a mole, say I wish. I don't think I have any insight in any of these four weeks Zero. Maybe let me call my buddy in Hawaii See if you can get down and give. Maybe Delaware State comes with like 30 guys because they couldn't afford to bring the whole team. So yeah, that we'll see. We'll see if we got anything for the Friday show, but I don't have anything juicy for for the end Friday show. Yeah, I'll give you some player props for the Friday show.
47:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And hopefully they got those three FCS versus FCS games up. There's one I like quite a bit At the right number. I'm not GRP. I bet numbers, not teams. Michigan State FAU under 46.5. Don't like Fancher FAU limits Explosives. Smith did the same at Oregon State. I haven't bet anything yet on that total. Uh, if anything, I could see myself coming around to Sparty.
48:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Um, I don't, I know what you're saying. With the limits explosive there last year, I just I don't, I don't love either of these and I know I know it's come down. You know this is one that opened around, you know, 50 and a half, 49, 48, like you're going through a lot of key numbers now where I don't know. I also I think this Michigan State defense sucks like. Um, so this is Smith team that you know. I agree, I think Aiden Childs and the the tight, like they're gonna have to score some points to cover this number and get oh so so I just think it might not be your classic Jonathan Smith year, one type of brand of football. I mean, maybe he institutes and they just don't care, but I don't think their personnel to run that slow Smith we're going to run the ball. They don't really have that type of player. So I'm interested to see what it looks like. To be honest with you, I haven't gotten involved in that game either way because I don't totally.
49:09
I'm not sure what we're seeing Like. Is he going to go with what he has in terms of personnel or is he going to, you know, go with where we're going to implement the system and if this, no matter what happens, happens.
49:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's a game I got to watch to get a feel, because I mean after you I know it's here too for herman, but he's that roster is basically a new roster again, right, right, second year. So that's one day you just take, unless I mean unless it goes down to 10, I mean lay it, unless it goes up, I just it's in no man's land there for me. Uh, alex, in the chat I feel like having a square new mexico plus nine and a half. How does men and hall get smoked in that game? Montana State might be that much better. I just don't think the market when they don't understand. I'll give you examples. Last year Idaho was a six-point favorite over Nevada. They smashed Nevada. I just don't think people rack their brains around an FCS school being favored over an FBS school.
50:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think our guy he's done some work for the Happer oh my God, I'm not going to get his Twitter. John Fenler on Twitter here. He's done some stuff from BestSent. This would be the largest FCS fave over an FBS school since they started in history. So at the current number and higher, it would be the base. Yeah, it's going to close that way. It's going to close that way.
50:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think the other one I saw that tweet Sacramento State smashed Colorado State. I think North Dakota State was favored at Arizona and lost a close game. So it's not like they've lost outright in these roles, they've actually. I think there's some suppression sometimes on them because people don't want to lay it with the FCS school. Uh, how are we looking at the SMU game? You guys know the answer to that. We give out SMU thoughts on Charlotte plus seven against James Madison. Last quarterback from last year tons of receiver defense cleaned out, lots of FCS kids on the roster. It doesn't feel like seven separates these teams. I just think you're too late to the party. I mean, 11 was out there, so where are you at there? I mean, I agree with the move on Charlotte, but just because it's out there.
51:12
You don't have to bet it now. It's just numbers do matter, and if you don't, I did some preseason work. I know people like this is the NFL preseason, but just to show you that numbers matter and I do this for college football and I'll put up some stuff because I've been tracking it for three, four years it's like night and day If you just look at it and say, oh, let's go, let's five minutes before kick, let's play, let's play with this chase to steam. I look at anything and move over three points. Let somebody know something about this game. Let's play it at the bad numbers. You'd be 8 and 18 in the nfl preseason, chasing the 26 biggest moves. 8 and 18 not good, so don't be chasing. And that gets back to I'm.
51:59
I'll just say this if james madison wins by eight, I'm gonna be happy with the charlotte ticket. You wouldn't be. I will be there at seven and a half. Look, that's a good example. Shop around, obviously hook on a key number seven, I mean, even though you're playing a little bit of juice there. Shop around, you get seven and a half. I think it closes seven though, don't you?
52:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, I would agree. I think it's kind of been shaped already. Nothing really intriguing in that for me, where it's at.
52:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Probably get to maybe 10 more here. We'll try to do rapid fire. Miller moss 41 when the heisman not in pocket. I just don't think sc's gonna win enough games. Were you there? Have you made that?
52:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
bet I might have a small sliver of that. You did mark that down. I'm someone, uh is a little higher on than I tell you. I don't know if there's a bigger USC fan than me at the moment. I think they're. I bet over the win total. I bet them in some game of the years and I sprinkled that. I don't. I agree with you. I don't love it. Love it, but cause I think that you know cap out eight nine wind, but yeah, I sprinkled that wouldn't go nuts, but yeah, I did put a little bit on that.
53:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There you go. Look at him. Does Bama make the college playoffs with a 9-3 record? That's a good question that I've been trying to ask myself, because Alabama a plus sign. Will they make the playoffs? I kind of want to bet the yes because I think there is a chance that they can. It's so dependent on other schools and other teams. You know, is it three close losses? When did they? You know, is it close to Georgia? Like I would generally say, nine and three is not going to be good enough to get you in.
53:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would tell you I think so and especially if you have, you'd have to work it out. But like an SEC champ, the loser of the sec championship game, another two loss sec team. You know it's like if there's four, two loss or less sec team, then there's no way, and then if you get to nine and three, then you're in the bin with. You know, is there how many two lost or less big 10 teams are there? So yeah it, I don't know. It's a fascinating question because I can't wait to see that play out. Um, honestly, like I'm literally excited about the like the the 12 team playoff, what that? That looks like who's getting in and saw that, but so I don't know, whereas it's like we've never seen it happen.
54:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So um, again, I think you get a better. Like, say, they lose to georgia, but look really good, you're like hell. This team can get better on their first year coach. They look this good in september against georgia. Yep, let's maybe bet them to make the playoffs then. So again, let's see what this market is. How many books you're gonna keep it up throughout the season? I'd like to. I like to know. I don't know yet, uh, how many. What I do know is that the answer to this question how many bets does Brad have right now going into the season? I'm over 300. I'll be close to 400 by the time it starts. So love it. Well, that's what I live for. Uh, brendan in the chat, arkansas laying 15 and a half against Pine Bluff. Pine Bluff's the bottom five FCS team they're bad.
55:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Those are one of those. It just one of those. Uh, when did they call off the dog? Who do they put in? You know, those are the type of numbers that I don't love getting too involved in Um cause your math on my model is like 59.
55:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So it's already, I think, suppressed a little bit. Uh, not interested there, charles, in the chat. Rice over 48 and a half, oklahoma state over 54. I'll probably lean a little bit more on the rice one than oklahoma state. Yeah, I would agree. We'll talk more totals.
55:34
Let's get the game week. You know I don't want to, especially when bet. I'll bet an under at any time, but I don't like betting a lot of overs unless the number is just way off again. I mean because you can get just 15 mile an hour wind. Uh, 20 mile an hour wind. Just let's get the game week there.
55:48
Floor state doesn't look good. The plus 22 for boston college thoughts on that? Uh, I could see that. It's just so much. I'd like to see if how the market overreacts or underreacts to the floor state game. So did I bet bc? Already I did. I think anything over 21 is okay there. But did you really I did you disagree? I'll give you a specific why. Okay, number one number obviously starts to power. Yeah, I'm like 20 and a half. I don't like I.
56:19
I bet against georgia tech too, even though I hate georgia state as a team this year. I mean, the trip back from ireland is, you know, playing again. And plus I I tweeted this out last couple years it's better to have film than actually play the game. You have film on your opponent, yeah, you know. Yeah, or stay. Georgia tech they're gonna have to show some stuff. I mean they're not playing an fcs school. They're gonna have to put some stuff on tape. That's actually good stuff, uh. So bill o'Brien I know a lot of people don't like him. Uh, I think he'll be able to analyze the tape from the Georgia Tech game. Have a couple things up his sleeve. Bc almost beat Florida State last year. Remember that game?
56:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, yeah um no, I think I you know Boston College wise a little bit more optimistic about what their offense could be. Uh, I think their defense is really bad still, I like really bad all right and I.
57:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't like that in the over yeah, yeah, I would agree, I will.
57:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, we'll talk more about them fair enough.
57:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, let's keep it rolling here. Uh, let's get to a mich question. Donovan Edwards, heisman, whoa, somebody like that. You like that or no?
57:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, they have too many good running backs. To be honest with you and the system. They give it to a bunch of guys. So I think Donovan Edwards is going to have a really nice year. He's not going to win the Heisman.
57:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Colorado State plus 35. Sark you can see 91 there. I think there's some other numbers out there. Sark comes out flat as a big favorite. I agree with that. Here's my issue. Here's why I can't bet it. Arch comes in. They're going to run the offense, yeah. So I don't like that.
58:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Neither of us are that high.
58:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I tell you, if I was if I want, we don't like you and I don't like colorado state. I mean yeah, I mean we gave out under six and a half I would.
58:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think I would lean and this is early I think I would lean more to if I wanted a colorado state position in this game.
58:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Wait till the team 35 and a half, I think you take, is this one in your half?
58:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
this I. I think this is one of the only uh 35 that. Let me hold on. I got the uh, got the old board up um we're gonna take this I was gonna say I I kind of like no, there's some, this is also a couple of hooks. All right, yeah, let's wait. I was going to say I think I like the position of Colorado State team total over in this one as opposed to a 35 point. So we'll see what happens, we'll see where it lands.
58:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I did bet the over in the game. That was one of the few overs I bet when it came out. I think Texas defense taking a step back this year Offense. We'll see. Again the offense in a game like this. Arch will come in and they'll still run some offense. Etn for Georgia suspended week one. Any line effect? I've heard whispers about this from other people. Have you heard this?
59:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I don't. Do you really think it?
59:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't think that's no, I think it might impact the market. Does it move it really for me? I know they lost their top two backs from last year, but I mean just running backs in that system don't mean much. They got that one physical freak kid what's his name? Like branson robinson and he looks like a 30 year old bodybuilder and he's only a what a true sophomore. So I mean they got Roderick Robinson. Yeah, I don't, I don't. Etn is a good back, but I don't know if he's moving.
59:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah.
01:00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's one where I'm just not interested right now, and that one we I'm just not interested right now in that one. We'll talk more as we get closer to that game. Dylan Gabriel 60-1 for number one pick in the NFL draft. We're at the sprinkle. This is from Jordan. Have you bet anything in that market yet?
01:00:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No.
01:00:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He's not a number one pick.
01:00:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, If he would have let me put it this way he would be in the NFL by now. If he was going to be Let me put it this way he would be in the NFL by now. If he was going to be, like, if he had that type of profile, he would have basically went last year. So I don't Excellent point. Yeah, I don't think he's. He just doesn't have, I think, the NFL skill set to go number one.
01:00:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Overall He'll be drafted, I think at some point, but not first. Here's some Kanishi molesis, rourke, packed on some pounds this summer. So I'm today at the stadium. I, you know, I went to the stadium in the spring. Uh, he looked okay. Uh, that's a team. Another team I want to see. Uh, this is getting ahead of ourselves. Fiu game will show me something. I think week two they they're at UCLA First-year coaches roster turnovers. That'll be a really good game to get a barometer of what those two teams can be. Connor in the chat, how big is too big for Colorado? North Dakota State Seeing a 10 out there, I think the money's going to come in in Colorado. So if you want to bet North Dakota State, don't be an idiot like me and bet it like three four months ago at seven and a half, nine and a half. Wait, I think you're gonna get a better number you think it gets better than 10.
01:01:32
it could. Yeah, you gotta remember. I mean people, uh, I mean public's gonna want to bet. You know Dion, I don't know maybe, but there's just so many people that want to probably fade him in that game. I think it goes to 10.
01:01:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I I'd say I think yeah, somewhere between you know, nine and a half and seven and a half. It closes that kind of where it's been trading for a while. So that's not a super hot take, but um I have some stronger thoughts on this game.
01:01:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, again, we got to get there. I yeah, I don't want to say we're already, I we're already impacting markets on stuff. I I got to keep my mouth shut sometimes but, yeah, I'll probably be more heavily involved on something. On that game. Tripp in the chat, elon plus 23.5 at Duke, elon playable at that number. That's not one that I bet. I mentioned. I bet like 10 games, most of them dogs. That's not one that I bet. Again, we'll talk more about that. Kudos, I will give.
01:02:25
I'm going to give a plug for FanDuel. They got these up. I was on vacation. We haven't talked about this. I was on the top. I was in Lake Tahoe, at the top of the ski lift there, 10,000 foot, and you're I'm getting this text from you. Hey, fanduel just opened up 25 games, fcs games. I'm like I have figures. I would be literally where I'm at, so secluded nothing. And I told you I got nothing man, I'll look it over quickly and I got nothing. So I don't think there was anything that I thought oh, my God, this is like 10 points off. You got to bet this. There was none of that. So the stuff that I bet, I just have full disclosure. I thought it was three points off, so there was nothing like slam, dunk, open order, get down in the kiosk, keep it quiet, type of thing. Uh, none of that. Uh, dylan, gabriel, a lot of Gabriel talk plus 125. Most passing yards in the Big Ten or Moss, plus 350. What do you think about?
01:03:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
that I actually bet some moss at a little higher price 350s, I think. I got. Five to one maybe. Um, I'd probably be a meh on 350. I wouldn't bet the 125 either. Um, you're just you're. You're in an 18 team conference. Um, I'm not not looking to.
01:03:41
You know, bet the short prices on that even though we you know we went through earlier that a lot of the you know we don't love a lot of the quarterbacks in the system. Guys can put up a bunch of garbage yards in a lot of games, so wouldn't go crazy there.
01:03:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Malik Murphy, heisman, cam Newton 2.0.
01:03:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We're not big I mean, yeah, he's going to need to put on some of that Curtis Rourke weight to get up to Cam Newton's size level there. So yeah, I don't, we'll see what he has this year. I'm kind of excited to see him a little bit though.
01:04:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You got anything else, so we gave out SMU. Was there another bet that you wanted to give out?
01:04:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think We'll have a little bit more of the derivative stuff, hopefully for the Friday show show, but other than that, I mean most of this stuff's been sitting there, you know, for for months now. So, uh, and we don't have any hot takes on, uh, any of the lines. But yeah, we'll hopefully have a couple of, maybe a frame from first half, first quarter or something on a couple too.
01:04:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, um, all that stuff should be out by friday and I'm waiting for some of the market influencers to start releasing stuff. I mean, you respect them, but also you keep in mind these lines have been out, yeah, three, four months. So if they the market over corrects on some of these releases, that's when I'll start taking advantage. And obviously we have 61 FBS versus FCS games coming up, I think like 30 FCS versus FCS. So if a market, like a book like Fando, opens them up, I'll have some thoughts as we get closer to game week, to say the least. So that'll do it. I'm glad it was glad to be back, chat, glad to be back. I thought it was good. First show again SMU minus 26 and a half and some other uh nuggets in there as well. You got anything else?
01:05:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, it was good it was ripping. We got a lot. We will try and get to, try and go as fast as we can on this Friday. It was a chat, so we want to get to everybody's time. Maybe we'll have I don't know see if Zach can keep a log there of the ones we don't get to. But yeah, no, hey, good start and looking forward to the weekend, baby.
01:05:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right For the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish. For producer extraordinaire Zach Phillips, I'm merely Brad Powers. Thanks for all the comments and questions in the chat. Again, you just watched, hit the books. Part of the hammer betting network sponsored by FanDuel.