00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
3, 2, 1, here we go. All right, Five o'clock on a Monday, let's do this. Let's hit the books. Part of the Hammer Betting Network. Alongside the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish, producer extraordinaire, zach Phillips, I am merely Brad Powers. Before we get to all your questions, comments, concerns, off of an intriguing week zero, to say the least. 

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03:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know, okay, overall, obviously would have liked to get SMU to the window for the crowd here and Brendan Lewis, the bane of my existence here. But you know what? It was up and down, a little bit of wilds, and what I think my biggest takeaway um is something we've talked in the summer about is the year-to-year shift in certain teams. Um is just way more drastic than it ever was in the history of college football and I think that was started with the transfer portal and it feels like it's only continuing to inch up a little bit. Um and start with a team that Florida State, like last year. Who's been a portal. 

03:51
Every team under Mike Norvell goes 12 and 0. You, you tweeted it and a lot of people saw it. It's like, would you be surprised if this is a seven and five team this year? I mean, they, they, they. That's the type of kind of year to year variance that that's just going to be college football nowadays, until some of the systematic stuff maybe changes or they salary cap, revenue, I don't know what, but for right now you can go from. You know you used to be able to maybe improve a field goal, a touchdown. Right now you can go from really good or really bad to you know. 14, 20 points, better or worse in some instances, because that looked like an extremely mediocre Florida State team. Not just it wasn't a fluke turnover game, it wasn't a bunch of crazy stuff happened. It was like Georgia Tech was pretty much on par with them, down to down for the entire game. 

04:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Before I get into that, let me remind people one and two best bets. 

04:50
We don't hide behind you know, we talk about losers, so we did. Speaking of Florida State, georgia Tech, we did get snuck in a first half under 28 and a half. Hey, what do you know? Numbers matter and in certain situations with that extra hook was beneficial. We should have gotten there easily. If you look at the whole entirety of the game 14 total possessions the fewest in any game in college football in four years so I think we were on the right side there. Unfortunately, we weren't on the right side of SMU. 

05:23
I mean I guess they won outright as a four touchdown favorite. And then, uh boy, a little unfortunate that the game script went that way, cause we we missed the the passing yards on Lewis by what? 10, 10 yards or so. 

05:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, on both ends there, um, but I would you listen, don't be, don't fall into the trap. And you nailed it on the live show on the weekend. The difference between winning and losing is that 28 and a half on that first half point, that is the day. If you got 28, you pushed. If you got 27, you're off On SMU. If you get 26 and a half and there were some better numbers out there afterwards. If you get 26 and a half and there were some better numbers out there afterwards. But if you get, if you got 24, if you got long-term 20, 21 in the summer and it closes 28 and a half. I mean like that's going to be over the long haul, the difference right there. 

06:20
So don't buy all the. You see some of this stuff. Oh, clv doesn't matter anymore. Okay, maybe in you know, am I worried about C1 in Taiwanese baseball as much? No, no, in major market college football, around the day of the game it's crossing over 28 at books that are taking 50 100,000 a click. Yeah, it matters because the people at the top of the food chain who have the most money, if they're thinking that 28 is still good and they're moving at 28 and a half you got in your good bet. So, yeah, I'm not. It is what it is. You just stick to the process. 

06:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We did have a lot of CLV. I mean, I took some on the chin there, to say the least. Not only SMU bet, but Montana State and people are getting after me. I get it, I want to, but I always fight back the CLV. Oh, clv doesn't matter, game result matters. I always tell people, okay, they matter for that individual game, I get it, but I always respond. If it doesn't matter and you want to get after me, then let me bet five minutes before kickoff any game I won on a Saturday, but let me use the opening lines. 

07:25
You're right let me bet the opening lines. You tell me it doesn't matter, but yet it does over the long haul. So, uh, it was very unfortunate result. You saw me, I, uh, I said the worst case scenario for the Montana State game would be them winning by one to four. Uh, when you got a New Mexico overbet, so that sucked. Uh, florida State Georgia Tech win totals were destroyed there. So it was a pretty bad day for OBP. But yeah, let's try to get some winners, to say the least. Here I'm trying to think what the Florida State thing you know. 

07:59
Getting back to the big game of the weekend, yeah, I mean, I won't go so far to say 7-5. I'm not going to overreact that that much. But there was the problems that they had. Weren't turnovers like uh, wasn't like a montana state situation? Oh, why didn't montana state cover all the? The fcs team should never been a two touchdown fair. 

08:17
Well, the reality is, did you look at the box score? I mean, forget the four and a half point spread. They should have covered the, the closing line. If, if you look at the box score in that game, it wasn't stupid things like that with Florida State, it was. They got manhandled. I mean, georgia Tech played man ball with them both sides and handled them. In fact, I would say it's misleading that the game had to come down to a final kick. On the last play of the game I thought Georgia Tech clearly was a superior team. So I agree, I don't know if that stuff's fixable, especially when the o-line, d-line, is supposed to be your strength. It's a fixable. You gotta go out and get a different quarterback. Dju is what he is at this point. Uh, he ain't gonna try to throw. 

08:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It worked at oregon state because they had a legitimate running game. If he doesn't have that, he's not gonna guy who's gonna throw you 300 404 bills and win you a game. He's kind of a system protect the ball quarterback and also Florida State, some of those portal guys on the outside. It didn't look great. 

09:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They didn't look good they looked like they were pulling sleds. The whole team did I mean for Florida State? You think fast? You know elite perimeter athletes? I didn't see it. Linebacker core was totally lost in the game. There was not a lot of redeeming factors if you're a Florida State fan, look no further than the market reacted quite considerably. The BC Lions down to 17. You and I were talking about it, remember it was like 20 during the halftime of the game. Down to 17. Nowida state bc labor day night. We'll talk more about that game. That probably later in today's show and then obviously friday, friday show. 

09:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
But would you, uh, would you, tit, I was a little so we, we talked, I mean, the montana state game, what they? They dominated the box. It was two scooping scores, right, you know? Yeah, I mean really you give up two scooping scores. 

10:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I still thought New Mexico, the coaching. You could tell that they're well coached. I agree they scheme some stuff up. 

10:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it was definitely an improvement from what they've had. Still don't think they're anything too redeeming from terms of the roster, but it was definitely a step up from what they've had in quite a while. Um s a couple of takes on the smu. Nevada game is sm. You might have a quarterback. This might be the old. You have two quarterbacks. You have none because I was, you know, preston stud. 

10:39
They ran it up in some uh, you know, in some aac games last year and they had their and that, that lashley pace offense when it's not rolling man like they were. I think nevada finally gassed out at the end there and they were able to get a few drives and they're able to, but it was ugly for most of the day and I gotta tell you that nevada it was. It was kind of a thing. It was like their only redeeming quality last year with pass defense they're pasty. They got some guys in the secondary Like SMU didn't have a lot of people open throughout the day. I thought Nevada it was a good defensive performance until they kind of ran out of gas there. 

11:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I thought SMU's offensive line would be a significant worry for me moving forward in the ACC because they got whipped. Now. I thought SMU's defensive line at times exerted their will, but SMU was a comical of errors. I mean the set them up for the first quarter, that high snap. I actually thought they should have went for it on that drive. Fourth and short Penalties, stupid penalties, spitting on players and whatnot just so undisciplined, not very well coached. 

11:45
Preston Stone you know kudos. He played very well in the fourth quarter but prior to that I was like I mean I was hoping for Jennings to get back in there. At least he moved the team one drive in the first half. So they got a lot of stuff there that they can even correct it and I'm not sure they're going to be good enough to go over that win total. I can tell you that I mean I wouldn't be feeling pretty good if I had over eight and a half wins. In fact I don't feel that good with over seven and a half wins on SMU. Nevada will get a better look at them this week. Market obviously upgraded them significantly. We're talking single digits. Another stupid take that I had was, you know, I was questioning the decision to bet Nevada last week because, oh, they might get blown out. Why would you be wanting to bet them against Troy when they could lose by four touchdowns? Now that line is single digits. So kudos to the releases that gave out Nevada plus 15. Clv what could go wrong? 

12:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You got six points with CLV and then I didn't stay up for this baby. But I tell you what I wouldn't feel. Let's just say my those Hawaii futures I might be sending those out, as you know, christmas gifts for people in Honolulu, there that you know, as a gag gift, because that was not and again I think a lot of that there was wind. They didn't want to show anything. And again I think a lot of that, there was wind, they didn't want to show anything. It was a that's not a great, that is a really really bad Delaware State team that got there you know, I mean guys are flying on spirit, like you know 48 hours before the game landing and it was kind of competitive into the third quarter. 

13:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So kind of competitive. I mean it was 14, 14. 

13:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

13:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Middle of third quarter and one of Hawaii's score was a punt return at that point, and it wasn't like turnovers. Delaware State went the length of the field for both of their touchdowns 60 plus yard drives. 

13:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So that would be the concern, I think, if you can make some excuses on Hawaii, best wide receiver out, wind out, didn't want to run, you know know, didn't want to show anything on offense, so we're still trying to push it downfield in the weather. The defense though I mean, that's concerning that, that team going up and down the field on you a few times is uh an issue? 

13:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, a lot of people were thinking, shut out there, that's how bad delaware state is. So you and I both you and I talked on Sunday. We saw aggressive market moves on Nevada pro Nevada, anti-florida State. Even the Georgia Tech-Georgia State game adjust. Very surprised that UCLA was only 13 when you and I woke up on Sunday morning. Didn't look like a lot of people watched. Evidently a lot of people didn't watch the Hawaii game, because I'm not asking you to adjust Hawaii's power rating down four or five points, but that one you've got to be downgrading Hawaii's power rating from that performance. I mean, you're a 40-point favorite and you're tied in the middle of third quarter. You only have seven entering the fourth quarter. You score a touchdown late with like three minutes left to make it a little bit better. That was one where you got to downgrade hawaii's power. I don't care if they weren't motivated. Uh, that just wasn't a good look and you and I took part in that one. So I a little bit behind the curtain here. 

14:58
We're supposed to have a parlay, uh, you and I put together for the show. We're gonna have to do two of them on uh friday show, because the one we put together, uh, it's not available. Arizona new mexico is off the board right now. The ucla game moved to 14 and a half, so, uh, well, our parlay that we were going to give to everybody was, uh, an overreaction to week zero. I thought it would have been a good transition. We're talking about week zero. Let's give people the the overreaction. Week zero, uh, overreaction to week zero parlay, uh, for everybody. It's not playable. So we're gonna have to do something. 

15:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, two parlays on friday's show yeah, and hopefully, uh, we'll have a little bit more. You know, I think we're gonna do a little underdog round robin for friday. Uh, you know a couple of those and then uh see if maybe you can put some together, because that way we should have some props available, maybe a little same game type of thing. 

15:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we're going to have to do double, so I'm adjusting on the fly. I apologize to FanDuel if we're supposed to contractually obligated for one Not available the one that we wanted. So sorry for that, guys, we will get to the comments. We got to get to them because, uh, I see they were lined up early, the first one's deserving. I'm gonna get your take on this. Uh, anthony, in the chat, how do you feel about minnesota north carolina line? I like the gophers but seems like a lot of north carolina money has come in your thoughts and I give my thoughts yeah, I mean it's, it's a lie, it's a serious North Carolina. 

16:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know who really is. I, that's one. Don't actually know the driver behind that, um, but yeah, no, I mean to cross that over. A favorite, I listen, needless to say, uh, I, I disagree with that. I think North Carolina still, I mean they, they're talking we're going to play multiple quarterbacks. I don't think their offense is very settled, but someone obviously strongly disagrees there. This is one I'll be honest and I don't I will at some point, if it's going to tick up a little further, be double dipping on this one. So, yeah, I, hey, you got to respect the market at some points. But this is another one where, if I can get Minnesota, I don't think we'd ever touch three. But if I'm getting a plus closer to Saturday, if I can get a plus on the money line, I'll be taking another piece. 

17:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Nothing that I read gives me cause for concern, other than respecting the market. I will say crossing through zero isn't much to me. I bet Minnesota is a dog. Certain other than respecting the market, I will say crossing through zero isn't much to me. I bet minnesota is a dog. Uh, worst case scenario would be north carolina winning by one or two, which you know the chance of that happening, considering what happened in montana state, probably greater than zero. We'll put it that way. Uh, yeah, I, I know some people that I that I respect like north carolina, I don't. I I like minnesota's quarterback situation a little bit better. I'll take minnesota at home. So I, I still like minnesota. I did hear that if it did touch three, uh, a big group wants minnesota and uh, by big group I mean people that bet six figures and not nickel and dime Brad Powers. So I was told that today that if it does hit three, it won't last long. Let's keep it rolling in the chat. 

18:14
Mason, happy Monday. Fellas, right back at you Saw TCU take some money over the weekend. We still like Stanford. Is that due to a market influence or injuries? Thanks, as always. I didn't see any influencer or anything. I think you know what. 

18:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think it was always going to trade a little bit kind of between that seven and a half and nine and a half and so, yeah, you know, a move eight, eight and a half to nine, nine and a half really isn't super significant. I mean that's a fandole kind of guy. I think that's in the market. There's no tens, tens out there and I don't. I mean I don't see and listen, I'll be honest, it's another one. If the 10 comes out, I'll be double dipping on some 10 more. 

18:51
Um so that's not one. Uh yeah, I would grab it as soon as you can. 

19:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yep, I agree, and if we're doing the Friday show and it's 10, we'll Stanford be a best bet. Another one what's changed? There hasn't been too many injuries. That should be changing anything, at least from what I've seen now. You got press conferences today and tomorrow. Maybe there'll be some announcements, but no, I still like Stanford in that one, but let's wait for a 10 to give it out as the best bet. I'll have this one in the chat. It's only week zero, week one, but the dog is going 4-0. My CLV buried once again. It's time to just blindly bet the dogs in the first two weeks increase my bankroll and reduce my insanity. 

19:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean I'm not going to overreact. No, yeah, don't. It's a small sample there. And listen, I think more so than just listen, it was a small sample of dogs. So you're saying that I wouldn't just blindly bet because you're going to get it both ways right. You're going to get higher variance outcomes, I think, year to year in college football. But it just happened to be that the week zero, slate the dogs you know come home in that one. Happen to be that the week zero, slate the dogs you know come home in that one. Um, it could easily be, you know, laying a, a minor or taking a plus 10 and the team they lose by 38, or something like that. So, um, yeah, I just I wouldn't overreact to that sample as far as, like, I'm just gonna bet underdogs. But I do think you probably need to aggressively adjust, more so than in past years, in some cases on an early week basis agree. 

20:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I will say one thing, and we didn't get to this. But uh, new rules in college football. I gotta be honest with you. Uh, I didn't see a lot of people going up tempo. They were snapping the football after they stopped the helmet communication with 15 seconds. So I I thought offenses were pretty efficient, if that makes sense, but I didn't see a lot of tempo. So I again, it's too small of a sample size for me to make overarching things, but I guess what you know, if the offenses are more efficient, efficient but they're still slow tempo, maybe there's something to the big dog betting big dogs if you've got fewer possessions. Again, only a few games. I'm not going to overreact, onion man. 

21:13
Speaking of overreaction, thoughts on Arizona and New Mexico over 57. Not sure I want to back Arizona, but think New Mexico is getting too much credit for a game. Gave up eight yards per play, had two defensive touchdowns, still lost. I mean preaching the choir here. I I have similar thoughts there, although I wouldn't honestly wouldn't be that opposed to back in arizona a little bit. There. I I upgraded new mexico, but it was a small adjustment for a team that almost pulled an upset. Uh, so it was just a small one. I, the game pretty much played out accordingly. I thought montana state was better. Uh, it was just a small one I, the game pretty much played out accordingly. I thought montana state was better. Uh, it's just bad luck there. And come believe I couldn't cash four and a half. What's your thoughts there? I, the market loves over. That got hammered by multiple people. I respect uh twice yeah, I, I agree. 

22:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I agree with that move strongly because of what you saw from New Mexico. I think their offense looked more the quarterback looked like Dampier looked a bit of a playmaker, had a couple guys on the outside too that won wide receiver. So I think from an offensive perspective, you could say that, yeah, new Mexico would upgrade their defense. Yeah, in terms of an overall, new Mexico like, is this a team now that I think going to win four or five? Get new? But yeah, I think it's one that I agree with. The overmove, probably as much as you know any of the the, the drastic moves that happened after the week zero results. 

22:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean their offense was pretty functional. I mean I liked some of the wing T stuff they were doing. Dampier looked okay. The wide receivers dropped a couple passes, so I mean they looked better than I expected. On offense, I thought the offense would be bad but it wasn't. Let's keep it rolling. David in the chat. Want to bet the under Michigan-Fresno? Is it getting too fancy to bet the first half under instead of full game, since it's that time I know for sure Michigan's first defense will be on the field? Yeah, I like your thought process. I think first half makes more sense. Full game. Respected service gave out under last week. It got hammered down pretty good. But yeah, first half makes sense to me. What are you hearing? 

23:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
on the Michigan beat in the last week. Know, they're still so. I don't know if they're just doing this for, but they're still playing up the, the quarterback comp um between orgy and davis warren. And I know your dad, I get my. My son, jack tuttle, unfortunately got hurt, uh in fall camp and that kind of took him out of it. But I do I love that was. 

23:40
Of the total plays that have moved, that was probably my favorite play and I know another person in the space that was going to play that as well. So I think there's some agreeance between multiple people I respect on that under. I got to be honest with you even at 45 and a half I would still lean under. I think this is going to be an absolute like grinder for for Michigan. I think their defense is still super elite, maybe, like you know, 31-7 type of game um, and I just think Michigan kind of really lean on the run game. 

24:16
As far as their passing attack, I don't know. I don't know how much they're going to want to show with text on deck. I don't know how much they're really capable of um and it's a little bit. You know hardball was uh, he loved running it up, he was, and so I'm. We'll see what kind of mindset they they have, and I know they'll probably want to get multiple quarterbacks in there, so we'll see. I still I would I agree with the first half play. I still kind of lean the under at full game as well. 

24:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Brendan in the chat. Sacramento State San Jose State thoughts. I don't want to give too much because it's not widely available. A lot of money on Sacramento State I expect me. Personally I'll be involved on side and total in this game, but without it being. I know it's available at FanDuel and some other places but I'm not at liberty to talk too much at this point on that game. Yeah, have you heard any whispers on that one? 

25:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I know, I mean actually FanDuel opened this like seven and a half or something, so seven and a half Sacramento State was a side. 

25:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm just waiting for it to see where this one settles in. 

25:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree was a side. Yeah, I'm just waiting for it to see where this one settles in. Yeah, I agree, so it's one of those that I mean. Credit to fanduel for putting this stuff out there early. Uh, even if it, if it jams some of us up, that are, you know, trying to get it an old tout service is gonna not. 

25:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, I'll put it that way you gotta have. 

25:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You gotta have stones to put it up and be willing to take it on these. You'd be the first one to market on a lot of these games, because, yeah, so that's when I think it's come down. I wouldn't have much of an opinion on where it's at currently. 

25:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I will say I mean, I bet quite a few, but I got to say that whoever they got putting them up is not an idiot. I'll put it on a lot of these, especially some of these bigger spreads, are, I agree, I did, I'm doing one of these. I'm not doing, you know, looking for the phone. I mean I'm just like a lot of them got put up in the last 24 hours and I'm just like, interesting, yeah, I need some people to move that in a different direction. I'll put it that way for me to get involved. Trevor in the chat. Castellanos passed Rush Yards prop. I'll just, we're going to be. That's next Monday. We'll jump into that. We'll deep dive that entire game next Monday. It's a Labor Day night standalone game. Yep, More widely available props. We'll get back to that one and I'm anxious to see what the market does with that game. Uh, trevor in the chat. Uh, also, is UNLV playable at plus one? Pick them. I know there was threes out there before. You know I'm higher. You want to go head-to-head on this game. 

26:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like you you're driving the boat here, UNLV, the UNLV I'm, I mean at where it's at currently. I'm not dying, dying to uh, to get on the Houston train. Um, but you're, I know you're, you're higher on UNLV than I am. I'm excited. Honestly, it's one of those random you know like excited to see what, uh, you know what year one looks like here down in Houston, Excited to see if UNLV, you know it's kind of looking like the real deal as far as a Mountain West contender. 

27:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, depth chart, unlv or for three different quarterbacks. They're not going to give it away who's going to start. So I would still lean UNLV. I'm not going to say it's playable now. I was just wondering if you wanted to go head-to-head, if you like Houston, but no, I think late to the party. There will be other stuff available more valuable Max in the chat. Nebraska minus 27 and a half this weekend. You know that's a game. I haven't bet side or total yet. 

27:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Have you gotten involved. 

27:51
No, I don't. It's just a big number for a freshman quarterback making his first start. That I just is a guy that I don't totally love. I mean, maybe Nebraska just dominates on the ground and is able to get but I don't think the margin, especially with the total, this low, and I don't think Nebraska is going to play it any. You know, they kind of play slow as it is, so does Utah. Just the margin of error to cover this is pretty thin for Nebraska in terms of, you know, like one turnover, one to, and can kind of throw you off script here, and I don't think it's going to be an explosive offense at all. So no, I'm fine, I think. 

28:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
UTEP's got an entire new roster, so they're a total question mark. Nah, no bet, that's saying something. If I haven't bet a game yet, saturday total means I could. Nah, I won't even say it yet, let me get more tea leaves on the total. Spammy Sosa in the chat. Thoughts on Stanford nine and a half. Let's just wait. I mean, you're in debt. No man's land there at nine and a half. This is why that nine and a half, when maybe a 10 will flash, yep, zach on the chat. 

29:03
Uh, northwestern line still at minus two and a half versus my ohio, is that? True, I mean some spots, but it's not widely available. Two and a half right, it's a juice, two and a half, I'm trying to think bookmakers. Two and a half juiced. Uh, yeah, I don't want to mention a few others, but uh, there's some, but mainly it's still three. You know what I'll take that. I'll own that at FanDuel Minus two and a half. I have made this bet at two and a half, so I'll fade. Mr Muscles, I'll own it this week. I'll go head-to-head with him. We're 0-1 against Mr Muscles. Let's try to even up the score. 

29:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll lay the two and a half here yeah, I don't know, this was one that I kind of, and I think on both sides of three you had buyers at miami, ohio, at four, three and a half. You had buyers at northwestern, at you know, two and a half there. So, um, and I kind of agree with that sentiment yeah, best bet I. 

30:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just what are you giving home field advantage? Ah, maybe it's a point with that new makeshift stadium, but they've been there. It is a unique thing and they practice there. I've seen spring games there, so they'll be adjusted for a little bit there. And I just think Northwestern even I mean I have my Ohio's the highest power rated Mac team. It's not like I'm down on them and I bet Northwestern's win total under. I down on them and I bet Northwestern's win total under. I just think there's a slightly better team at home. 

30:26
Get loudly the two and a half, uh. And again, I think there's this perception out there that this ain't the Fitzgerald bunch anymore. I think Zach Brown proved that. I mean I'm Ohio in these short favorite situations against FCS team. Mac teams in the past have been terrible, but past have been terrible, but old fitzy ain't there anymore. So, uh, I like this new coach, so let's go at best bet minus two and a half. A little extra juice there. I'll own that one. That'll be my best bet. Uh, zach in the chat. Also, south alabama creep below less than a touchdown five. Uh lost to north texas, top defensive back. Is this a play we'd fire on? Let me wait until later in the week again. I think four is a go. I bet a bad number here earlier this summer People will respect are on North Texas plus seven. I kind of like South. That might be one we'll hold in the chamber for later. 

31:20
I don't think you're as high on it as me, but there's again when you don't have any. You got a couple of market influencers that release something and you have no resistance. Sometimes these just continue to tick down and down and down. 

31:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So let's just wait until Friday. 

31:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There might be a game I play Friday egg. In the chat I have Ohio Northwestern total BP. Will you be at any sports books this weekend? I'll be in Vegas. Well, the best bet of the show will be I will not be at any sports books. I got to deposit some money in the circuit because I bet way more win totals and stuff at Circa than I anticipated. So I might be there, but there's no. I mean sponsor the show FanDuel, Get in Las Vegas, FanDuel in the state of Nevada there. But uh, there's no. I mean sponsor the show fan duel get in. Uh, get in las vegas fan duel in the state of nevada and I'll show up at a fan duel sportsbook, but not here. So I won't be at any there. And it's question on the total. I don't know the wind forecast completely yet a little bit I I do see a little bit under money coming in today on the under drive by the lake. I haven't seen anything. Have you you seen any? 

32:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh win there on that one um, no, yeah, I was gonna say not much on the total and I was gonna piggyback on I'm not, uh, uh, a lot of times on saturday you just got so much. Well, one, we do a live show now. Number two, you got so much going on with trying to get down on stuff that, um, it's, I can't really. You know it's hard to go to a game or enjoy a game from the sports book or something, um, because you know, I mean most of the day kind of kind of work. That's why you know week zero is kind of nice to watch one of those. That's why I was talking about the bowl games. You can just kind of sit back and enjoy them, because on these, you know, jammed week ones and, uh, and going forward for the next two months, um, just got a lot going on on saturday. 

33:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, yeah, I don't ever go to a sports book. I mean, I got my tv set up here I I don't want to be around people. You're kidding me. You saw how fired up I was doing the show last week oh, he's had a few. 

33:19
No, that's how my blood pressure is like. If I drank, I'd kill, I'd have a heart attack. Uh, I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean I I can't be around people when there's that many games going on and I was still betting and stuff throughout the day. It's just no, that's the last thing I want to do is be at a sports book. I'm being honest there when I say that Josh in the chat enjoy watching the show Oklahoma minus 43. Nah, I can't lay the 43. Although I don't want Temple. I mean, I do not want Temple because I I could see 60, 70 point blowout, just like. 

33:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oklahoma. I know, uh hashtag, uh, you know talk about old line, but if you were a summer watcher of the show, um, we were. We were very high on Oklahoma in that matchup, but it was more at the 39 or something like that. So, yeah, I think, just especially now that it's crossed 42, you got to lay off there. 

34:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The LBP would be happy 49-7. Fine, I'll put it that way. I have multiple tickets on OU. Rick in the chat. Brad, is there some props for telling us to bet bc plus 20 saturday during the florida state georgia tech game lines now 16 and a half. Well, I won't take credit for that. Somebody in the chat brought it up yeah, I forget who that was that's why we do the show. 

34:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I so I was able to, you know, grab some. Uh, I mean, listen, you guys in the chat influencing it. So yeah, yeah, I'm clicking around finding some 20 there, as we're doing the show on Saturday, so yeah, what's your thoughts quickly on that 17 and a half? I mean, I'm not the most bullish guy in the world on BC, but I could only look at one way on that game and that'd be. That'd be still BC at 17 and a half. 

35:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll talk more on that game again. That's still BC at 17.5. We'll talk more on that game Again. That's a standalone game on a Monday. Last I checked we got a Monday show. We are doing a Monday show next week aren't we? 

35:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know it's Labor Day, yeah. 

35:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Are you taking the day off? It's not a day off for me. 

35:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No. 

35:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Alright, I don't know. The Canadians like to take a bunch of days off. 

35:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know if Is it Labor Day or. 

35:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Boxing Day, what do they call it? I don't know what it is. 

35:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Fix Canada Day Canada Week. 

35:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, zach says Monday shows a go, all right, good. So there's that announcement. We are not taking next Monday off. Labor Day, we are leading into the big game between Florida State and Boston College. We'll cover player props side, you name it uh, and we'll see where that line is. Right now I'm not really interested, but uh, kudos, that was the chat, not me. Uh, that the light bulb came on when that and that guy was getting yanked while we were talking about that. Uh, rob, love the pizza man's in the chat, love it. Uh. Yeah, we don't deserve a day off. 

36:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, we're wanted to yeah, and then we got negative. 

36:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We got negative CLV you know the CLV will matter when we get negative CLV. You know how that works. It will matter then. Uh, connor, in the chat, thoughts on on Shadur under 304.5 passing yards or Brosmer over 172. Have you heard anything? Player props I'm only bringing this one up because this is Thursday. We won't be talking until Friday. 

36:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, you know what, and that's on me. I haven't gotten the word from the franchise yet, divin, and I haven't gotten, uh, the word from the franchise yet and haven't dug. I usually wait until day before morning of um to kind of get into a my, my overall instinct there, um would be brasmer, leaning over as well with you, um, but no real opinion on the shador one. But haven't haven't bet either of those and haven't dive into the Thursday slate yet. 

37:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not good with the player stuff. That's just not my forte. I'm not a fantasy guy. So sorry guys. Ryan, in the chat, every conference win totals you guys have taken or would recommend Didn't notice any in the master sheet Thought I'd ask for they get taken down. Well, I think we'll leave up the all before the conference win totals get taken down. 

37:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I think we'll leave up the oh before the conference win totals get taken down. I actually think, Fandle, I bet like 10. 

37:32
Did you bet any those up throughout the year Per oh yeah, sources. So I don't think they'll like. I think some places will take them down, maybe the more old school places. Right now, if you saw, like during the Florida State Georgia Tech game, fanduel left ACC title odds up the entire game and then, you know, move in numbers. So it's kind of like dynamic pricing on those conference futures now, um, at some places, so including FanDuel. 

37:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, I don't think I mean some places take them down, like during games and stuff, but now it's kind of becoming the norm to leave it up and just price as as you go yeah, and with the ones that I bet, they were already teams that I'd already played full season win totals and there wasn't too many shocks there and there was only a few books that had them up and it was usually late in the summer where stuff was starting to get priced out. So it's not something that I bet as much as, obviously, full season win total. Drunk driver in the chat Loving Kent State pit over 55 or better. Even with the line move, I still don't think the market's fully pricing in Bell at OC. Good luck this week, guys. What's your thoughts on this Because I have strong opinions on this particular total. 

38:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Do you? Okay, I was going to say I don't have a particularly strong opinion at where it's at at 55. 

38:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like the over for two reasons. Number one, what he mentioned Pitts playing with tempo. They're going to play a couple quarterbacks. I like that if there's a sense of urgency, with the guy trying to win the job. And I also think Kent State. I think people forget how I mean. They were an abysmal dumpster fire on offense last year. They had zero returning starters. Now they have like what? Eight back. I like their wide receiver core. They got a couple of like all-Mac caliber players at wide receivers, so I think they'll be an improved offense. 

39:15
I like the over. I don't know if I like that price though, so we can't. If you play totals, 55 is a pretty key number in the totals market, so we'll not play it at that fan dual price, but I certainly lean over. I bet the over in the game. Ryan in a chat, any insight in the line. We already talked about this. 

39:33
I still like Minnesota. I'm rooting for Minnesota. Hope to hell they win by three. I'll put it that way. That would be a really good result for the portfolio. Mike, it's an important game. Minnesota over win total. North Carolina under win total. Not looking like an idiot with negative CLV. That's a game. My face would be red on that game. Also, anything on the Arizona State Wyoming under 48. Have Wyoming one of the better defenses in Mountain West. Arizona State quarterback situation a mess and their defense was an awful last year. Thanks boys, the duality of man. I could take that and go Wyoming's quarterback they think is better can throw. Arizona State's offense was a total mess. They had student managers on the offensive line so I think they'll be more functional. Wyoming's running back's out. I think that's a positive in the fact that they won't lean on the ground game they'll throw more. 

40:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, I like the over. Yeah, I saw you. That was a bp uh official earlier today. 

40:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, a couple other. I think corby likes the. You know a guy that I respect. He likes the over. I thought it was a sneaky one that I was hoping to to lay under the weeds for a while, but yeah, I just like over. I just, you know, even with all you know, just use last year's. I know this is a very bottom level 101. But just even with all that, with Arizona State's offense being totally compromised last year, use Wyoming statistical averages where they're just a ground and pound team under bowl. I mean I think it was like 48 and a half just using last season's total averages. So again, I think both teams are going to be a little bit more high scoring this year. That's why I like the over there. Uh, christian in the chat salter 250 to one. I'm guessing that's heisman. No, no, right, no, what would you need? 

41:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
500 to 1000 I mean, yeah, you give me one of those you're telling me there's a chance one. Yeah, I, you know, throw a hundred on it just for the you you know to screenshot the ticket for laughs. But no, I mean, listen, liberty was like. He put up great numbers. Nobody, even I don't know how many people, even know this guy's name around the country, you know like. And so maybe the playoff he gets a little bit more hype in that, but I mean the team. 

41:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They don't play. They gotta play. Skip like for him. To get it they'd have to play a tough non-conference schedule. 

41:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They don't yeah, so I and it's. They're in the literally the worst g5 conference. Um, so yeah that I don't see many paths for that to be even be possible, even if they go 12 and 0 and he puts up crazy numbers. 

42:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, no it. Just that's not one. I Nope Lion Brown in the chat, mississippi State. My 26 is short Levy coming out swinging in his debut. 

42:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Dr Brown back in the chat from I know. I know he is a Mississippi State alum there, so I'm sure this is a very unbiased take on his part. 

42:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll just say I disagree. I think there's three starters out for Mississippi State. I was looking at the depth chart today. I disagree. 

42:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, it's even down a little further there at Vanduul. 

42:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Read with that, with what you will Spence in the chatia tech down to 13 and some spots, is line move more likely to head back towards the hokies, or will we see 12 and a half? What's your thoughts on this? I did see a little bit of that trickle I my power rings like virginia tech. Now I was gonna take a suppression on the total, so much that you got to bring down the side. But yeah, I'm still fine with laying. I'd rather lay it than take it. 

43:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Zach, what's the FanDuel number on this game at the moment? 

43:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Because I. What are we doing? Wait until Friday. 

43:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, I was going to say at 12 and a half I would have said it's a go. 

43:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, let's wait until Friday. I would be with you there. I like Vod. Give me Vod Tech in that game, but let's wait until Friday. 

43:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't believe in the Vanderbilt staff or what they have, or thinking that Pavia can. 

43:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're anti-Jerry Kill all of a sudden. 

43:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I mean, I like Jerry Kill in Conference USA or you know when he's playing, you know the dregs of that kind. But I don't, and you know this to me is and I'm not a, you know, clark League guy I don't think the roster is. If anything, I think it's worse. Yeah, I'm not a Vandy guy. Now, the Virginia tie I know a lot, of a lot of us are projecting a step up in Virginia Tech this year. Maybe that doesn't happen, so you could talk me to that. You can't talk me into Vanderbilt being uh no, I just I don't see it. 

44:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
that's probably my biggest from a power ratings perspective. That's my biggest overlay right now. Still, david D on the chat North Dakota State plus 10 at Coach Prime. 

44:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ah man. 

44:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I already bet North Dakota State twice. I'm a little disappointed. I did that I didn't have a correct handle on the portal and North Dakota State with a new coach. I don't know if it's a great matchup with Colorado If Shador gets time big, if, but man, I don't know when are you at on this one? Where's this line going? 

44:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I think I saw today North Dakota State's best player on defense, cole Wisniewski, is going to miss this game, is going to miss most of the season with a foot injury, so that matters. I mean he's All-American, he's like an NFL guy, so that matters. Are we laying it? I'm not laying it at 9.5. 

45:22
All right, I'm not laying it at nine and a half. I just I have gun to my head when I lay. I mean this was a game that I had on the radar for the off season to kind of lay when we were talking about. Maybe it moves to seven, six and a half. I can't get there either. I think this is one I'm just going to honestly watch and watch and I don't really project having a side here now that the number's gone back up. So I don't disagree. It's hard to be like. I know it's not your older brother's North Dakota State anymore, but they're still physical. They still do a lot of things that I think would give Colorado some issues where they can't just smoke them. So yeah, I'm. 

46:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, there's just so many unknowns on Colorado and the line of scrimmage where you know what you're getting from north dakota state, so I, I don't know, I haven't like been wild about anything really on that game, maybe total, but I I I bet freaking north dakota state like six months ago in that game thinking I was going to get really good numbers and I didn't. So I'm a little ticked on that. Isaac in the chat, this is up your alley because you asked me about this. I didn't really deep dive into this, did you on the FanDuel Mythical Matchups tab? Did you dive into any of that? 

46:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what. So one, I thought that was pretty cool. It just like, honestly, like I thought it was something that you know like good on them for for putting up some of this stuff. So for people that don't, if you got the faint like it's basically a head to head and a total of what the two like you, they put rivals against each other and it would be basically who you know scores, more points and their combined total on for the over under. 

47:07
I did, just didn't go crazy because a lot of times they're just going off of what the lines are. I played a little bit of the Iowa-Iowa State under I think it was 72 and a half and laid a little bit of Oregon minus 13 and a half. As far as to the mythical we're not going to give those out as like that those are, you know it's only at one place, obviously but laid a little organ, um, and played the the iowa under justice too. Nothing that I would consider like crazy edge or any of that stuff, um, but just for two that I like because they're basically using, you know, the game spread right now to make these numbers. 

47:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So it's nothing that's going to be extremely I'm anxious to see if they're going to do that market on a weekly basis, because I agree, I like I thought it was cool. 

47:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I hope they do yeah, I hope so. 

47:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Week one's top, because the lines have been up. You don't have any new information. Uh, so, and there's more variants. So yeah, I thought that was cool. A couple of scs questions in the chat. Uh, lafayette. Uh, money line over buffalo from zoran and brend Brendan Linnart. I know FCS is confidential. Just blink twice if you like Duquesne and Lafayette. 

48:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
The Lafayette just got bet down. People were on that one from earlier, so it just got bet down. I know stuff's moving earlier in their posts than these, but I wouldn't play it where it's at now. 

48:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What do I want to say? I don't want to say nothing. We'll talk more Friday. I got to see how this gets handled. This is the first week We've never had a book open this stuff up this early. So I kind of want to get a handle on how this stuff's getting operated. I'm not going to lie, I'll probably maybe do some finagling myself. So I to get stuff where I want it, so I to be determined on that stuff. I want to be anxious to see if that's the case throughout the course of the season. If that's being posted on mondays and tuesdays fcs, uh, I'll try to use it to my advantage and your guys' advantage too. On stuff, patrick, in the chat Georgia, clemson I saw a little bit of Clemson 14. This was what Friday night, saturday morning yeah, them 14s got bought up. Yeah, and I'll be honest with you, you're anti-Clemson, I kind of understood it because there's a lot of anti. 

49:26
There's not a lot of positive vibes around this Georgia fall camp. 

49:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, and I mean some injuries, some real injuries, and again it's a team that recruits out it's not like, but some injury concerns for sure at a couple of positions. So yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with buying up the 14s at the latest. I mean, three months ago would I have told you that? No, but you have to react and adapt to what the current information is. So I don't necessarily disagree with that. 

49:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree. Couldn't have said it better. I pretty much made it 14. I laid a little 11 and a half way early. Didn't think I'd ever even want anything to do with Clemson If I had to bet it now, even at 13 and a half. I'm not betting it, I'm just saying I would lean more on the Clemson side because Georgia's fall camp has not been great. Not that I'm down on Georgia full season, it's just for this individual game they might just be. Let's do what we got to do to get the win and move on towards, you know, the rest of the season. Zoran in the chat, florida plus three over Miami. Even sprinkle some money line. Where are you at? There's some confliction here. Guys I respect, love Miami, other guys I respect. Like Florida, I want to be more on the Florida side, although their fall camp has not been good on the injury front either. 

50:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Head to head. Head to head. 

50:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
At three. 

50:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
At two and a half. 

50:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, not two and a half Three. 

50:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean we're going consensus. 

50:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, no, no. He said three, the chat said three. 

50:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're on the head-to-heads After last year losing. Now it's all you know. You're only taking the layups I give you here. 

51:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, that's yeah, I'm not no. I want to win man. 

51:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not. No, I want to win. Man, I'm tired of losing. Man, I just lost. I mean I'm tired of losing, to be honest with you. So, no, not two and a half Florida is a bet for me. At three that's a bet for some other people that got bigger pockets on OBP too, so we'll move to that one on Friday. Um, that money line, by the way, is, I think, the best in the market right now at fanduel. If you want miami money line, which I've played, some of that minus 137, I think. 

51:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If I'm looking is are you going best bet on that one? 

51:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, I mean, I'm not gonna, I would rather do. Uh, you know, I wouldn't hey, man, you're you. 

51:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
you love the party of democracy. This is a democracy, I know. 

51:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I saw what you did there. But I mean, listen, I respect the Florida money on that, but I thought I mean my plan the entire time and what's happened is when it got thin it was going to take some Miami money line. So that's the bet I have on this game, but I'm not going to talk people out. You know there's some serious people that were on Florida at three and above. 

52:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So I'm in for the big games. I'm anxious to do the Friday show on this game, the Notre Dame Texas A&M game, looking at Moneyline's market. So, to be determined on that one, I would anticipate us having some action there, whether it's head to head or best bets on a couple of them games. I'm just anxious to see what happens on Friday leading up to the Friday show. There's a tease and I'm not, that's just not a tease to get you to. That's legitimate, like I want to see what, where we're at there and see, because I anticipate there might be some value. True, does Texas, colorado state get any lower than 32? Yeah, I mean 32, is that awful key number? I don't know. 

52:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Is anybody going to be wanting to play back Texas? I think I need like 30 and a half. Yeah, I could see it going to 31. Yeah, I agree, because you're kind of in a no-man's land. Now you can get back to 34, 35. 

53:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There was above 35 available and I never bet it. And I sat there because I just thought, ah, there's so much positivity about it in Texas that I just wanted to wait. And I waited too long. I missed the boat there. Carlos Bilbao in the chat, Notre Dame starting a few sophomores and a freshman on the offensive line, Texas A&M minus three. Well, that's why it's moved to Texas A&M three, because of the offensive line issues. For Notre Dame, You're not laying three. 

53:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm not laying three. 

53:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Again, that's one. We'll revisit that on Friday. What number do you guys make for LSU-USC? Do you have a middle situation now with four and a half? I don't have a middle situation now with four and a half. I don't have a middle situation. Well, we're more on the USC side, right, we gave that out, did we not? 

53:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, and I know I was a big. I'm not playing back in the LSU in that one. If anything, I still, small, lean the USC at four and a half, so that's probably one of the more bullish week one takes I've had. Is that one? Yeah, we're in good shape there. 

54:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We did give out USC six and a half. That's all you. That's a great bet. One of the guys that I top five guy for me that I respect market influencers on SC too. So everything that I've read the last three, four months says SC is the side there. Yeah, I think they're live to win the game. And boy, I'll say this you said Georgia Tech was live. That was a great take by you. 

54:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say, if we're maybe that's a teaser here what's this game actually scheduled for Sunday night? 

54:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that's a good last leg of a Moneyline underdog parlay. 

54:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Maybe you know, teaser for Friday for the Moneyline Underdog Round Robin. 

54:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We're going to have a loaded show on Friday. We are promising people a lot of bets, so we better be ready for that If we have it quickly. I mean we're running out of time. Do we got some Northwestern? I gave out minus 2.5, minus 122. 

55:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We got anything else. You know, it's funny because this is the classic, the classic, like these lines been out there for so long, um that I I think we would just kind of come in ready to ready to fire on friday. I don't want to force anything for the people here, that uh yeah oh, I agree oh, you got one no, no, no, I just wanted your opinion on uh, so uh. One of our friends of the show played the FAU Sparty under earlier. 

55:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm hearing weather. 

55:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, okay. One of the guys I bet with is a Sparty. He was a little against that. 

55:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, Charles, I think said take the old. 

55:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I think take that for a grain of salt, but yeah, I agree with that. 

55:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I I heard weather is what I heard. The reason behind that Boy with it total down hook. That's a Friday night game that might be a bet on friday, if it's sitting there. 

56:14
Yeah, you know, you know us, we, we load up, we're degenerates. Friday comes around, yeah, and if that's the best number in the market on a friday and it's a hook on a key number, let's go, let's go, let's fire them up. So, to be determined on that one, I I don't know, I wouldn't be wanting to lay 14 and a half. I can tell you that Johnny Bravo, hawaii plus 14. Nope, in fact, I still think UCLA is playable at 14. 

56:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There was. Honestly, when we started the show there was a little buyback on Hawaii and then most of those 13 and a half already got eaten up. But there are. Depending on where you play, we'll see. I don't know if is did fanduel move on that action, zach there that? Uh, no, look at them, they, they they must know something? 

56:57
yes, uh, um, but yeah, I mean to give it bp and I uh was it yesterday morning or 200 more, I don't know what morning? I'm getting all my days screwed up. I played some ucla when we woke up on Sunday, but it was only. I mean, it was mostly 12 and a half. At 13 and a half I'd still lean that way, for sure. 

57:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, hawaii was not good. I don't want to overreact, but it was. You have to downgrade a Hawaii's power running at least a point or two from that it was powering at least a point or two from that. It was that bad. Uh, alex, uh, can you talk? Arkansas state minus nine, they should be able to take care of business. Another fcs game against central arkansas? Yeah, nine, I don't want to talk about this stuff. Uh, it makes me uncomfortable. I mean nine, certainly central. I'll just say this at nine, central arkansas is no longer playable, and just full disclosure. You can tell me if I'm lying. I'm crying and I don't see any tears. What did I tell you the line should be? It was sitting at 13 and a half. What did I tell you? What did I not say? 

58:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
nine yeah, no, no, I'll give you. Yeah, it's one of those nine ten. Uh, yeah, it's just I. I tell you this is a market that you know, some of these games you're used to being one or two touchdowns off. 

58:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's just conversation, people don't? I literally told you when that came out I said don't play around with it a little bit. Central Arkansas is probably the right side. I know some people that like central Arkansas, I'm guessing that line closes nine Now people just bet it. I didn't say bet it, I just said that I think the line should be right around nine. So there you go, carter. In the chat it's Michigan state seemed out to 14. We just talked about that. All money was on wind total under FAU. That much of a a fade team. To me, 14.5, I lean FAU. That was a very good fan. I'll just say that. 

58:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll just say if I see a 14.5, I'm buying it. So I'm not going to beat around the bush. I thought the number where it was was pretty good. 

59:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Pull up the fan, though We'll get a bet in here For the people that stayed with us the full hour. Pull up. Pull up FanDuel again Friday night, 14 and a half. Hopefully it's there and they're not moving it. 

59:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll pray to our Lord and Savior. 

59:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, they did have 14 and a half. 

59:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, Is it still there? Yeah, it is 14 and a half minus one. But yeah, I'm in. Zach, hurry up because this is not going to last. Dude, are we on Canada Day time here? 

59:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Get the game on. I'm fighting tonight. We're closing out the show we got to make. 

59:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Somebody give him the bullpen. Give me Jacob or Jason or whoever. I'll get him in here, chris or anybody. 

59:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, he does not get producer extraordinaire for the close. I'm joking with him. Maybe it was a Friday night game, maybe they took it down already. 

59:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, it's, I just uh I just uh okay just saw it. So yeah, I agree. Well, you have it. 

59:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's a best bet at 14 and a half for those that stayed with us. You got 14 and a half. Boom. Best bet florida atlantic on friday. There's too many. You start reading the tea leaves. There's too many questions on that. Oh my god, that ain't going to. Last Pesty coach joined late today. Well, thanks for joining regardless. I sincerely mean this, but I don't care if you guys win or lose. This is the best show that balances good analysis with entertainment. Keep it up, boys. Well, that was nice, honestly. 

01:00:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Our goal here is to we always say and people get you good numbers when we can early in the week. Now again, most of these games have been out for months, but when we're doing, especially on the Monday show, it's getting you guys information that we think is going to close good and let them take it from there so hopefully we can make you some money. And there I see Zach put it in the app. 

01:00:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It said 13 and a half interesting uh, they just yeah, it just it. 

01:00:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It didn't last, it didn't like. It was 14 and a half. So it, uh, I think our loyal listener group here, uh, along with girl week a uh hit that one. So yeah, if you're, hopefully you're able to get some of that. If not, there's some 14s around Listen at 14 or better. I like it, I really like it at 14 and a half. 

01:01:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Though as nice as the comment was and we appreciate it I'm here to win. I'm not here for shits and giggles. We need to win. This year, this is the chips all in type of situation for me. This year, we I gotta win, or I don't know what I'm doing with myself, too old for this. Uh, jackie in the chat and some of these fbs versus fcs games. Jackie's back must not have been that bad if our one loyal female listener is getting after us twice in a row. 

01:01:50
There's some books that have two or three points of discrepancy. Considering minus 110 on each side, is it worth playing both sides of different books and rooting for the middle? I would say too much variance in week one. I'll have a different answer if it was week 11, even though it's still a smaller market with not as much liquidity, it would be much better to do that in week 11 than it is in week one. There's just I. In fact, I need like to make an fcs bet. Oh, you bet all these fcs games. I still need three points. Difference in my power rings a lot of times, unless we're talking a key number of like three or seven I. That's how much variance. I need just to make a bet with this. Do you agree with that, or am I? 

01:02:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, I'm with you of like, I especially, yeah, early in the season you've said, with the variance and the amount of massive turnover, even even, it's sometimes even more drastic at the fcs level. Um, but I, yeah, I, I wouldn't go on two or three points, especially because some of these games will move so significantly that I would, especially if you can get on the right, if you're playing as the middle, if you can get on the right side of it, I would be looking at more of a delta. Or if you're going to middle bet, you know, wait till, wait till the weekend or something in that. And so, just for me, it's like it's tough, it's not like you know, it's not super liquid until you know later on saturday. So, um, yeah, I, I think just overall, not not week one, especially, and then not until you can get. I need a bigger delta on these games to even before I'm considering middling yeah, it's something, but. 

01:03:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But sometimes there's opportunities for seven points, yeah, type of things. We even saw that already in week. Zero Blue Chicken. I have Georgia, minus 13 and a half pit, minus 23 and a half parlay. I'll just put it this way the parlay we were supposed to give out. Those weren't part of the parlay we were going to give out. 

01:03:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We'll be rooting for you, blue Chicken, because I actually have that pit, you have that pit. You have bet that pit, I did, and then Makes me like the over then. I bet Georgia as well at a little cheaper price, but I did that one Don't look All right, as we just mentioned, not loving that as much anymore. 

01:04:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jacob in the chat any of these week one games that have steamed too far and worth playing back against. That's why we're kind of waiting for Friday. Yeah, there's some. I'll give you some of the ones that we're looking at South Alabama, north Texas game. We're anxious to see where that, if that keeps trickling down because the market influencer game North Texas, and if there's no resistance, let's see how far that drops. Let's see how far this James Madison-Charlotte game continues to drop. I mean that's starting to get a pretty big overlay in my power ratings and it's not like I love Bob Chesney but it's not like I love James Madison this year. So that's kind of a game I'm looking at. Is there any games that? 

01:04:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
you're looking at that are moving too much um. Does nevada troy count um because? 

01:04:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, I agree, I agree with that all right, yeah, that. 

01:04:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That one's about a. You know a point and a half, two points away from um. Listen, I mean I know they took smu, you know it was. It was kind of to the wire there, but there were. 

01:05:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree At seven. I'm laying it with Troy. 

01:05:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Nevada defense. The other side of the ball was rough, to put it nicely, so yeah, so that's one that we'll be looking at. I don't Where's the other. 

01:05:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree with that though. 

01:05:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean we will be firing even at seven. Yep, I agree with. I agree with you. Um, no, that I mean the one we just gave out. Honestly, I didn't think we were going to see a florida atlantic 14 and a half. 

01:05:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh or 14. Does it count? He didn't pull it up on the video. I don't't know if it counts. 

01:05:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I guess we don't have video proof. 

01:05:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Somebody was asking me about some of the polls. 

01:05:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
On Monday. If they lose by four to win, then I'll chalk it up. We'll give it to Joey K. Maybe we'll cut it. 

01:06:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That one counts. Oh, here we go. Did you just wake up from? 

01:06:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
a nap. 

01:06:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, come on, that one counts. It was on the screen as I was pulling it up. It moved. The number moved in front of me, it but we saw it earlier like 10 five. 

01:06:16
Yeah, we did, there is video proof that was there from the earlier video counts and it was not like an hour before, it was literally like five minutes before. So, all right, we do have video proof. Somebody's asked me about the oh, the line wasn't this, and I had to screenshot our video. It was the under under 28 and a half. I'm like this is us giving it up. Yeah, I love that comment. It's on the screen, connor, in the chat. A few more and we'll wrap it up. Guys, western Michigan plus 24 and a half a go. 

01:06:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I had bet Western Michigan at 24 and a half half. Have you heard anything? I? There's hardly been any talk or movement on this game. No, I know that was one that, um, pete, you know western michigan, a popular offseason darling mac futures and that regular season, winter over. I have not, um, I haven't done anything with that game up to this point, um, but I wouldn't necessarily disagree because I think you're going to need. I'm skeptical, as we were last year. I'm still skeptical. This Wisconsin offense can take a big leap in year two. 

01:07:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Zach, pull up the Fandu odds to see where this is at. Let's go. Western Michigan. See, you need to stay for the whole show. Folks we're saying, ah, we're not going to do anything. And yeah, here we go. Final five minutes we start. I like it. Twenty, it's exactly. It's exactly the number that I bet it at. Twenty four and a half. So let's go. We got some Friday action now. A couple of big dogs, I like it. A couple more. 

01:07:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Avery Johnson, heisman 25-1. No for me. No, I really don't like that. I'll be honest with you. I almost like the Salter 250-1 better. 

01:07:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I really don't think he can. I'm not hearing great things about him throwing the football. No. 

01:08:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't love him as a player overall, talent-wise. I mean I think he's athletic in that. But you would need Kansas. You would need like a Kansas State season. That I don't think they can. 

01:08:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet under their win total. So that's what I think about them. And that probably I mean no, I don't like that at all. Sam in the chat. James Madison, we were just talking about this. Let's see. 

01:08:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, let's put that in the right. I'm not going to get on. 

01:08:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not going to get on him for making that bet now, but I'm just waiting to see because I have not seen any resistance. It blew through 10, blew through 7. Let's just see how far it goes down. Jacob in the chat. Jacksonville State 2.5 coastal worth of play. Jacksonville State should control the line of scrimmage. No, I agree with the money on. I bet coastal. Dr Bob's on coastal, mr Muscle's on Coastal. 

01:08:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like Coastal. I liked Coastal at over three. 

01:08:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Exactly. 

01:08:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would not play it now. 

01:09:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree, I agree with that. I agree with the line. Direction is what I was saying. I would not be playing Jacksonville State at two and a half. David in the chat. Finally, another FCS game Idaho plus 27. It's Idaho State plus 27 and a half against Oregon State. It's already moved like nine points. I didn't even get to the start of it. I wouldn't. I wouldn't play it now where you at. Have you heard any whispers on that one? I'm not the only one playing that stuff. 

01:09:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's some people playing it yeah, I I know it's annoying. 

01:09:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Concerning. 

01:09:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, I would agree with you. I wouldn't touch it. 

01:09:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Now I'll give you one more. They posted an FCS versus FCS matchup a good one, youngstown State, villanova and I wanted it to move one way. I didn't even touch it, didn't tell anybody Nobody knows my FCS power and nobody knows nothing and I wanted it to move one way and it didn't. It moved the correct way. So somebody out there knows what they're doing with this. My goodness, that'll wrap up the show Now, zach, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but we gave out Northwestern atlantic plus 14 and a half. It counts gave out western michigan plus 24 and a half. What else am I missing? 

01:10:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, is that? Uh, I think, yeah, we just hit the uh until that's it. Yeah, that's what zach. Zach, who's uh, you know, up from his uh, you know, 30 minutes yesterday, says that's it. So, uh, if you didn't miss them then uh, no, we should be. Uh, we should be good for a monday. I'm glad you know what hey working it out with. We should be good for a Monday. I'm glad you know what hey working it out with the chat here that we got a few in. 

01:10:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Excited. So yep, that's all according to the boss. Zach, you got any closing thoughts? Good show. 

01:10:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Good show, Good Monday recap let's get it rolling. Hopefully, you know, Thursdays will go well and then we're going to be firing Friday, baby. 

01:10:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we are Friday's going to be exciting. 

01:10:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm ready for also a fresh set of lines. You know what I'm saying. We've been staring at this group a lot for months, not like months. That's why I always going to get the. I like the week two where it's like boom. Oh my God. 

01:11:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Look, I love there's a lot of good games. I'll enjoy watching it. I love college football. But I'm antsy for week two already. Yeah, because we've seen some big adjustments from week zero and I'm like, yeah, I hope we get that. I hope we get kind of those reactions on 20 or 30 games for week two. We're going to have some fun then if that's the case. But for the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Kanish, producer extraordinaire, zach Phillips, for all the questions. Comments in the chat. We love you guys. That's going to do it for Hit the Books sponsored by FanDuel, part of the Hammer Betting Network. We'll see you Friday.