00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
3, 2, 1, here we go. All right, Five o'clock on a Monday, let's do this, let's hit the books. Part of the Hammer Betting Network and now sponsored by FanDuel. Alongside the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish, producer extraordinaire, zach Phillips, I am merely Brad Powers. Before we recap what's been a very good weekend, if you've been following along with the bets, we'll talk about them. Before we get into that, before we get into your questions, comments, before we talk. Michigan football, texas football, brian Kelly, notre Dame, you name it, everyone will cover it. Let me remind everybody that we are indeed now sponsored by FanDuel. In case this is your first show, and happy Labor Day to you guys. 

01:26
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02:27
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03:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, that's the way we'd like it around here. And three out of four on the underdog money line round robin hat tip to me. I know I got a little aggressive there with uh yukon should yeah, no more, no more. 

03:14
Three touchdown underdogs yeah, no, I go. There were a couple other that uh that made the cut. I north texas was one that was on. I see a few uh fans of the show too, uh that. I saw the one uh, my forgetting his twitter handle, but got in there with uh, with the north texas one had a nice money line. So good weekend, that's more like it. That's what we want to see. Um, a lot of takes a lot. A lot of week one reactions ready to come, uh, and let's find, uh, let's keep it rolling find a little bit for week two here yeah, let's lead off, though, with a quick recap of last night, because we indeed had it as one of the best bets. 

03:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Usc we gave it out a couple weeks ago, in fact, uh, on the trojans uh market agreed with it. They not only get the cover, but they get the outright win. I thought it was, you know, probably the best high quality game played over the weekend. Now, I didn't agree with all the coaching decisions in the game. I don't know if it was a plus there, although I liked the defensive coordinator for USC. I think their scheme is far superior to what it was even LSU's defense to a certain extent. So I thought that was a really good game, a really good, at least as a college football fan. Regardless that we won our bet, I thought that was good for the standalone game to be the best game of the weekend. So, uh, kudos I mean I, I, I wonder if lsu and I tweeted this and it got a lot of play. I wonder if they're starting, uh, to get a little tired of the brian kelly experience, because this is what you get. 

04:35
Yeah, we tried to warn you as norton fans. Oh, it's northern you, you just, you guys. Yeah, you just can't win them. You guys are stuck in 1988, 1988. I mean you just, it's your program, it's not Brian Kelly, it's you guys. Well, year three, another third straight season opening loss. So good luck. Any other major takeaways? 

04:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I think you and you're wearing the hat. I think USC is real deal. I liked, I loved what I saw from their defense. I loved what I saw from Miller Moss in, loved what I saw from miller moss in terms of executing that offense. Um, and they're definitely was a buy-on team for me pre-season. I'm all about it and I will say I I think I think those were two of the best 10 teams in the country. I would put lsu out there. Nussmeyer in the first. I don't that brian kelly quote about. Are their quarterback nussmeier in the first half? 

05:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
was it was unbelievable. 

05:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He was, yeah, he was like borderline flawless. So I thought, if anything they went away they kind of went away from him a little too much in the second half and got a little conservative on the LSU side of things I would let him keep slinging it as much as possible, because he was. He was absolutely locked in. He looks fantastic and I agree, both defenses with the step up. So to me I don't know, I'm a buyer on both of those teams going forward and thought that was fantastic. I agree with you Best, most well-played game of the weekend. 

05:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean both have tough schedules coming up so we'll see if they can survive them. But yeah, I mean so up so we'll see if they can survive them. But yeah, I mean so far, so good and kudos for them for playing a big-time game, because we didn't see too much big-time college football. A lot of tomato cans across the country, a couple other games, obviously you and I did a live show in the Miami-Florida game. Pretty much second half played out since we last talked like we thought it would Just total domination, Miami clearly superior, napier's done uh, big shock. And in case you weren't watching the, the live show on Saturday, keep in mind, we do it and we're going to do it noon and what we have decided, we are going to do it at noon and obviously it kicks off this week. 

06:38
This little cross show promotion big game. I don't know if you've heard of it Texas, michigan we'll get into it in a little bit, but we will be going halftime of that show this week. Now at halftime we had a couple announcements. Zach picked his uh, new team. Just so happened to be the fighting irish in notre dame. That's the team he's going to root for. No pressure for me, in fact I would have pressured him not to. 

06:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's all I told him uh, yeah, I. 

07:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I said, if you want your heart ripped out of you like the Maple Leafs, you picked the right team. But Notre Dame goes on the road, gets their biggest road win in quite some time. So that was a pretty solid performance there. 

07:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are you hitting the panic button in Texas in College Station no. 

07:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not, you are already Defensively, no Offensively. 

07:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean Wiegman was bad like bad bad and they lost a couple of linemen and I know friends of the show For the season, or just banged up? I don't know Banged up. I don't know the extent of it, but I know our friend of the show, bud Ely, pointed out that that game day thing they did on wiegman, um, I don't know. 

07:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I he's well, he did look like bill uh. But bud uh said uh it uh, you know, he looked fat. I thought he looked. I mean, I'll come out and say he looked dumb, so very likely. 

08:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't, I I'm. I would be worried about that if I'm. Texas A&M, that performance again defense, I think will be fine. Plenty of talent there. Offenses yikes, that was ugly. That was real ugly. 

08:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It will. I will say I do not think he gets enough credit. I'm not saying this is a Notre Dame fan, I'm just telling you Al Golden is really legit. The defensive backfield is really legit. They made Caleb you. Al golden is really legit, the defensive backfield is really legit. They made caleb williams last year look average. I mean a season opener a couple years ago. It's uh late third quarter in the buck guys with cj stroud at quarterback. Not last year. Cj shrouded quarterback at home only had seven points. So I'm telling you al goldens, he can dial it up. So uh, yeah, he he's. You know, although you know wegman, it was Wegman, it wasn't all defense, he was missing wide open guys too. So we'll see on that one. I mean, what was the expectation? I mean, are you saying you're worried? Are you thinking six and six type of team? 

08:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Now, granted, they have a cupcake schedule coming up, so I mean that helps in terms of that. 

09:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I guess a Florida game wouldn't scare me now. That's in a couple weeks, they're on the road. 

09:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They got an fcs team. They got bg. Yeah, we'll talk bg, though I would bet don't chalk up that bg game baby yeah, uh, any major. 

09:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, I got something that also got play on on twitter. I was obviously making fun of Vegas, dave, but I do think it's interesting. The favorite in the FBS versus FCS games 61 and 0. 

09:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, the blue horseshoe. Probably he's on an island this weekend here. He probably doesn't have to work anymore now after that If he just laid the chalk on all his games, I'm surprised he hasn't come out and said he's retiring after this weekend. He hasn't, you know, come out and said he's retiring after this weekend. 

09:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, and obviously expected to win, 60 of them, the FBS team was a favorite, but they're also covering like 56 or 57% of the time. So even though they're expected to win, expected to win big in a lot of cases they're covering these margins. So, again, macro takeaway, that gap is getting bigger. And look, it's not rocket science, it's just, you know, they're that best fcs players are getting pulled from the transfer portal. They're going g5, they're going p5 and fcs got us to plant the roster where they going. Well, they're going to a lot of d2 and stuff like that. 

10:14
So it's just rich get richer, poor get poor. Although at the top of the sport I would say, you know, outside of georgia, which we haven't yet looked unbelievable, to say the least, there's some holes on teams. Even the Buckeyes didn't I mean, for a Buckeyes team that was plus three in turnovers, scored two defensive touchdowns still couldn't cover. That wasn't the best look there and it might still outside of Georgia could be a little wide open as far as teams that could, you know, not only make the playoff but maybe even win a couple games in the playoff. 

10:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No for sure. I mean, as you said, I thought the issues we thought for Ohio State quarterback and offensive line kind of reared their head there against an Akron team that isn't exactly at the top of the max. So yeah, and I think you've got one real elite team and then it's a tier down, because I tell you what the other team that I would have had in that, that top three tier, oregon, woof, that was not a good performance, uh, versus Idaho and an offensive line that might have some bigger issues, uh have you watched that game, that box score. 

11:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean I am stunned at that. Uh, I don't get stunned, I've been doing it 15 years. That box score says they should have won by four touchdowns, but it's not like your typical. They were minus four in turnovers, type of thing. It was just I got to watch that game play by play, because I don't understand it. That's one of the more surprising not only finals but then diving in the box score that I've ever seen. I just don't get 24, 14. 

11:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
In fact it was 17, 14. I know well, yeah, because joey k laid some uh second half on oregon there, after agreeing with you, seeing the first half like although. And then all of a sudden, uh, yeah, they just some bad fourth down variants. Uh, and you know, credit to idaho. They had kind of a a pretty good scheme cooked up, uh, in what they were limiting gabriel to um in just terms of like they kept everything in front of him. 

12:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He was what? 41 out of 49, yeah, no explosives at all. 

12:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So yeah, that was a little bit of uh I know it might be live this week. 

12:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You don't want to overreact to those results, but they play wyoming this week so that's, yeah, I was. 

12:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was ugly one from wyoming. Uh the crew, yeah, we'll get into it. 

12:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I would say, maybe one of the most surprising, nobody watched it, although there was a battle in the market between competing services. Uh, I uh, arizona state just absolutely annihilated Wyoming. I mean like we're talking yards for play difference like plus five, I mean that that that's like against the bottom barrel fcs type of yeah, but some panic in san marcos market doesn't say so. Market loves him this week. I don't. 

12:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I bet utsa yeah, no, I would say, but uh, you know that was, uh, that was a little bit of questionable performance there from our, from our boys in texas state. 

13:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, lamar in the game, though I thought it was a little expensive I. 

13:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say one that the one we get, the big one we got wrong on saturday. Uh, and the program we were texting about it, ucla is like oh my god. Also they couldn't have just lost outright for the Hawaii win total, like we could have just put, I know. And the UCLA win total Although we're not going to have to sweat that one. 

13:32
No, yeah, no, I mean just a couple more quick UNLV, baby yeah that was good I got to tip my cap because if I had to pick which team of the Mountain West looked best over the weekend, it would be in Nevada, Las Vegas. I thought they had the most complete performance. 

13:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Mark had said I was an idiot. Two different guys told me no, I wanted to. We gave it out on the show, so I'm glad we got a three and a half on the show, but I wanted to give it out to and they said, nope, you're wrong side. I mean, I didn't even I wasn't watching it because there was a bunch of stuff going on. The first score I saw was 24-0. 

14:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm like what the fuck. 

14:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was like I knew it. I went to their spring game. I'm like this is a legit team and Houston just is. I watched Houston's spring game too and they don't have nothing and the market hates them this weekend. So yeah, unlv did look good. That's one where I regret not betting them to make the playoff. I bet them to win the Mountain West, but I thought their schedule might be too tough. We'll see. They play nobody this week but Kansas next week. They still have Syracuse, I think they still have like Oregon State, but those are games not unwinnable if they're going to play like that. 

14:40
So I mean, if they win a couple of them win the mountain west, beat like a boise state, then they might be the team to make the playoff. That'd be unbelievable. Uh, let's get to the star of the show. That would be you guys. The chat, love the chat, let's get to it. Uh, charles, always first in the chat. Uh, think or no, actually I'm scrolling down. Yeah, he's there. Uh, my man. Uh, great to look at the new board. What do you think about our guy sean lewis, plus four and a half this weekend? Uh, my number is actually lean opposite. That wasn't a. That wasn't a great look for them. What was that time? 

15:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
that was ridiculous it was, yeah, honestly like, uh, it was just a chaotic second half there. Uh, against an a m commerce team, that was, um, that, that I mean that was d2 a few seasons ago. I didn't love that Now. Granted, the market is taking a little early money on the fighting Sean Lewis's and I know we're both Sean Lewis guys. However, that was an ugly overall. I mean, you wouldn't see it from the final. They were down six. 

15:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I thought that was something. They were down 6-3 at halftime. That's one where East Coast people wake up. Oh, look at that. 45-14 plays the expectation. No, it wasn't good, and I think they had a couple of non-offensive touchdowns. 

15:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That is actually, I think, if I'm looking, that is one of the I think it's only four and a half on the board at the moment. You want to go head-to-head? I'll lay the point out. 

16:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, no, I'm all set on them, let's see what the market does, because I think that's one where, oh, people are going to take the underdog. No, not that Oregon State. I mean I'm way down on Oregon State this year. So I mean we bet over the San Diego State win total and we're down on Oregon State. Bet against Oregon State last week with my numbers like Oregon State in that game. So, charles, that's not the one Mason Bryant's in there. Happy Labor Day, fellas. Yep, right back at you. Had to get in early. Again Is Michigan at seven. A bye for you guys. Feeling on the hogs plus seven. Notice it's taking quite a bit of money since it opened. Thanks, you guys are the best. Thank you, mason, let's talk. Michigan, you want to talk a misleading final 30 to 10? You're like oh, that pretty much played the expectation. It did not. That was not good, bud. They got sc in a couple weeks. They got texas this week. I mean I'm pretty comfortable with under nine and a half points. 

16:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll say that I might, I might have to. You know, uh, pay off somebody to delete that from the. Zach's about to get a, you know a delivery, a delivery, a pro line delivery for, uh, you know, getting that off the record Cause. Uh, oh, man, that was um and uh, I don't want to give bud too much sauce here, but we, we talked to him a little bit about it offline. Uh, I don't think Davis Warren won the QB competition. I thought it. 

17:22
It looks like Alex Orji just lost it and they basically said we can't play this guy. And in limited time it kind of seemed like that was the case where they just kind of had to go with. You know what they're going to have. Warren is going to be very McNamara ish, but the offensive line has got to be better. If they're going to, I mean, if this team is going to win eight or nine games, the offensive line has to be better. If they're gonna, I mean if this team's gonna win eight or nine games, the offensive line has to be better, because that's the only way it's gonna. 

17:47
Defense is still very good. Special team should be good, um, but man, I, uh, I did not like what I see. I know I think wide receivers had like four catches for 20 yards. Oh my god, all together they don't have anybody on the outside with any any type of juice. It's gonna be, it's gonna be tough. With that said, oh, I gotta tell you, if I see seven in a hook, I think it's already popping, isn't it? Is there some, is it? 

18:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah not there go, uh, go far away places. I think there's one on there, unless I'm looking at an old, old number, I don't have my dom best up uh I? 

18:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I said I'll listen. Will I pop it at seven and a half? Sure is it going to be like a play of this or something? Do I mean? Do I love my game of the year? Tickets at four? No, I don't know. Um, because I will. I mean, the flip side of it is texas was dominant and looks great and, yeah, and maybe some of that is our. I don't think we're gonna have to sweat that colorado state wind toll either, because they look fucking awful, uh, in every facet of the game. But, um, I mean it's a texas offense that I think probably just has too much juice for, for what michigan's putting on the field. So, um, yeah, I mean you just you don't want to go crazy overreacting to week one, but in this new era of college football you kind of almost sometimes have to at some point. So, yeah, I was disappointed as it gets for Michigan on one side of the ball. 

19:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This other question on Arkansas-Oklahoma State game are you part of the Arkansas money that we've seen today? 

19:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
One, I'm not on Arkansas-Oklahoma State game. Are you part of the Arkansas money that we've seen today? One, I'm not. Two, I was really impressed with and this was a guy that took a couple of South Dakota State positions. That was, I mean, oklahoma State was very impressive to me and I will take the L because it started last year and it's going to keep on rolling. I kind of disagree with that move and I would be, uh, a little prone to I'm not, maybe not seven and a half, but if it dips any lower, uh well it's seven in most places. 

19:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that's a buy for me, not a big buy. There was enough negativity towards oklahoma state in today's market that I'm going to be greedy and see if I can get a six and a half. But if we're doing the friday show and it's seven, uh, yep, might make the card because I I can't get. I can't get that low. I'm just not. And keep in mind I know arkansas are good. Arkansas pine bluff is a bottom 10 fcs team. They're not. 

20:23
Oklahoma state played the best FCS team, yes, and whipped that would be favored by 40 points over Arkansas Pine Bluff. So keep that in mind when you're comparing stats, because some people just grab the stat and they just pull it. Now I will say Oklahoma State. I did find it surprising. They were like a negative 0.5 yards per play, so maybe that's why some of it. They were like a negative 0.5 yards per play, so maybe that's why some of it. But no, I think the line should be 10. Rw fan 23, 6 and 4 in the season. So far. Boys for a chris. 12.3 percent roi. Better than yeah, man, what's up with that? 

20:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, well, I again, I tell you it's been the Nicolosi was. You know what? Was he? 170 yards short? So yeah, we got to enjoy prop time. We got to get it rolling here because finally we get to some, the sides and the sides are rolling. So, yeah, hand up there, we got to get it going. 

21:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We're all right, though Syracuse 15 and a half. It does help that Maybe we'll get on the bad side of some of this. So, yeah, that was one where we won. 

21:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They won by 16, that all-important half point. 

21:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So the key number that was I'm not wild about what I saw there from syracuse. 

21:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree with you. I think there was a rough call there. They probably should have covered all the numbers. But um, regardless, I agree with you like Ohio ran the ball really effectively. 

21:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, the guy go for over 200 yards. Yeah, yeah, We'll find out more. Either team, I'm not ready to pound my fist. But the good thing about both of those teams Ohio and Syracuse they got good data points coming up. This week Syracuse hosts Georgia Tech. Early money is on Georgia Tech. I think Georgia Tech 3 sounds about right. Ohio's got an interesting home game against South Alabama. So I'll know a lot more about those two teams. 

22:12
And, speaking generally I tweeted this out earlier today I mean, look, we talk A&M, Notre Dame, LSU, USC, the big games, but the reality was there wasn't a lot of good data points. Last week, I mean only 14 games are aligned at 10 or less. Last week, I mean only 14 games are lined at 10 or less. This week, 25 out of 49. So half the games are lined what I call competitive, where I can get an idea on a power rating. So that's good for this week. Yep, bounce back season RW. We hope so. We're off to a good, decent start. Anthony, Michigan quarterback from offense, making me miss Cade McNamara. I feel sick even saying that. 

22:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know, honestly and I asked a few people about that I actually gun to my head. I would take Warren over Cade. I don't really think Warren was the biggest issue on Saturday. Wow, offensive line was underwhelming and the receiver position was they got a problem. That receiver they just do. They don't have an outside receiver who's fps level? So yeah, really, I mean they they've got a bunch of like short. You know those short yards after catch guys I'm talking about like a true x I gotta watch the film, then you got me. 

23:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If you're like this negative on it, then I gotta watch the film. 

23:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I'm negative on the receiver, the, and again, they, they, they. Colston Loveland. I think he had, like 88 of you know, 125 yards for Warren, so I try to mix things up, throw stuff out of the backfield. 

23:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's just a game I haven't watched yet. So yeah they, they mix it up at all or no, I mean, it was very conservative, I'll put it. 

23:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Why didn't they go on the portal for quarterback? So here's what I heard, as that they went before the. You know how things work nowadays. Like you know, they went to a guy I don't know the specific details, but they went to a guy and told them they were interested in them, they would, they wanted the mission. They wouldn't give him the job per se, so they wanted the mission. They wouldn't give him the job per se, so they wanted it to be a quarterback competition, thinking that orgy would be a little bit more than it was. So I think they did, but they wouldn't just give anybody the job, and so therefore, whoever that person they reached out to said no, I'm not coming for a competition. And I think they thought orgy would really be in the mix. 

24:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But it doesn't. What's the freshman looking like? Has he got a chance to play? Maybe later this year? 

24:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
so I think part of the deal with getting him in was they wanted his family wanted to redshirt year one because he was a small. He's only weighed like 170 pounds. They wanted to put weight on him. Um, and honestly, no, I know we've joked around all season. I think they really thought Tuttle would be back in the mix and to me, gun to my head, I think he'd be your starter right now if he wasn't hurt. But he re-injured in spring. He got re-injured in fall. Honestly, I would be surprised. I think he's out for the year. They haven't said it. Oh, wow, ok. Also, they've got issue at the right tackle. They started a redshirt freshman, the guy they really wanted to start. Word on the street is the gentry was like a forced high top 100 kid is hurt as well. 

25:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So they got some issues. We'll talk more about that probably Friday. Welcome to Texas Longhorns, steven, in the chat. I think Oregon crushes Boise State. Thoughts on the Ducks minus 18? I certainly lean that way. Again, I'm getting greedy. And plus it's a new market, new year. Everybody's different. I've seen some anti-Oregon, some love for Boise Boise. You know the final doesn't look great for the defense. But, man, you deep dive into that box where there was another one where they were like what? Plus 4.4 yards per play, yeah, so I'm waiting. It's a bet at 18. For me it's a big bet at 17. So I'm just waiting. Some of this is just market timing and I think that we also got we weren't fortunate in a lot of instances last year, but you know northwestern unlv best bets for us. We're fortunate. This is always a picture in time that this show, yeah, we're. I mean it's not like I can just make up the numbers I mean we're. You know we're confided to, uh, whatever the lines are at the time that we're doing you as well. 

26:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Was that right? You know, right time like part of that is yeah, as you're, you're nailing it. We're like sometimes, just when we're on the air, we're not going to have the number that you, that you would say is playable. 

26:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So and what helped us last week? What uh is, you know? Northwestern minus two and a half liked it, uh, when it was three. Three and a half don't like it. Unlv plus three and a half like it when it was two and a half don't like it. That's. That's all this is, but at least we were fortunate in that regard to get them out on the show. Let's talk tonight. I'm jumping ahead just a little bit, david, in the chat. Bc FSU Total Thoughts. Have you done anything tonight? Side or total. 

26:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, the only thing is, when we were on oh, not last the Saturday show from I wish I could remember his handle To give him a shout-out said should we bet BC Because Florida State was losing on the Saturday live show two weeks ago, and bet some BC while we were on the air. So I got like 20 or 20 and a half in chamber. That's all I got and so I don't. I wouldn't bet it now. Um, I know, fran, let me see what those the pro. I know franchise was bullish on the castellanos props. Uh, but he hasn't exactly gotten off to the hottest start this year, um, oh. So let me see what castellanos is at 160. 

27:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, on player pro sydney start like eight. No, though on his sides his column. 

27:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think so but I'm talking like Thursday, friday, week zero Thursday, but I'm trying to feed the people some player props here, so I got a troll on for also a little bit questionable of who's taking like who's going to be the main BCc back. Uh, robichaux or um, the other guy they got, so I don't know some. I would say castellanos passing yards at 160 is okay, not great okay, there's a little bit unknown. 

28:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I think I'd be more in. I'm just saying I lean florist state tonight. I'll say that at the current number. Uh, not a big bet because I'm worried about still the coming off of Ireland. And also historically, game game one versus game two goes to the team playing game one, although that didn't always work out this year. But historically the last 20 years team playing their first game better to have film on the team playing their second. So just a a lean. Tonight We'll see Interesting, decent data point. As far as I'm concerned, I'm anxious to see what O'Brien's going to do with Castellanos. You like the over A little bet there A little pizza money. 

28:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't do anything with the total in that one. 

28:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, no, no, no I meant Castellanos. 

29:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh yeah, on the passing yards I think 160 is all right. A little pizza bet there on the 160. Yeah, I didn't do anything on the total. 

29:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, I skipped ahead a little bit there. John, in the chat who is a member, and also not only if you want to become a member, you get priority as far as the chat questions. But also make sure you're hitting that like and subscribe button for those of you that are watching on this Labor Day Central Michigan and FI button for those of you that are watching on this labor day central michigan and fiu minus six or better. Yeah, I, I bet central michigan this game. Uh, I was hoping it would hold off a little bit more, but uh, took a little bit of money today. But but don't don't bet six. Uh, yeah, there's some better numbers out there. I've seen even some lowest four and a half, but I, I like the central michigan side. What say you? 

29:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, you know what I thought I mean. Central Michigan obviously had a dominant week one effort. I did think FAU played. 

29:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Better than the market. That line was unbelievable on Saturday. 

29:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Who gave that out? 

29:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They went with Indiana. You want to go five? 

29:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
and a half best bet there. 

30:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to. You're liking it enough. 

30:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I thought honestly I hadn't looked at that game in the last couple hours. I didn't know what got back to it. 

30:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll come back to it All right. All right, yeah, that's now. We're now. We're in record protection. No, I'm joking, I'm joking, Total joke. We'll come back to that one. Charles in the chat, what are some teams that are on the panic button watch list? Besides, mr Can't open a water bottles team, I mean obviously. 

30:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They're on the dead list. That's not the panic button. Yeah, that's already. You're already. They pulled the cord, chuck. There's no panic left. They're not in the comb anymore, they're in the grave. 

30:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think the other obvious one is the team that you're super negative on this summer. 

30:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what I'm talking about don't you. 

30:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Is it the hashtag? Dabo it is. 

30:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It is I think time to panic there, I would agree with you. That's the other thing. You didn't bring in any other. If you think Klubnik and a lot of people now are coming around and like he's not the guy, you haven't brought in anybody, there is nobody else Like. If you think Klubnik sucks, you're stuck with them for the entire year. 

31:13
So the Vizina kid's okay, but I just I will say I don't want to overreact to like one and I react to like one and I know we were down on this team compared to oh color. I mean, I mean that colorado state performance was like what was it? It was six. What was the zach? I don't know if you have the, the folder up. The win total we gave out was that six and a half under yeah yeah, that's what I thought at six and a half. 

31:39
No fucking way that that's. That team is not winning seven games and I know they got in northern but like I mean that was, they lost all their good players off. You people the whole thing about you know, in past college football where it was like you get a good coach in, he comes to a program that's kind of down. Maybe you know you get them year two, year three, you're waiting for the if you're a g5 program or an fcs program, now if you don't have the money, all your good players can. There's no bump. There's no year two or year three bump because all your good players are walking out the door like all that from this jay norvell being like, oh he's, he's gonna get that great bump. They lost all their good players except for like one. So I don't know. I thought I I'm not saying a panic time, I don't know if the people care enough and there that's it. But they paid him a lot of money. He took that. You know he got that. They wanted to turn that program around. That looked like a clown. 

32:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was being honest. There's a, there's a bunch of stuff, it just isn't. They're making fun of him for protecting the sign, the signs and stuff when he's down 50 points on Saturday. I don't know if you saw that. It was going viral, yeah yeah, yeah but there's been a bunch of other stuff. 

32:46
I thought the Nicolosi stuff getting paid, the $600,000, I mean, I think that was suspect, his stuff with Dion last year, suspect. I think he's a clown. I'm talking Jay Norvell, the Colorado State coach. I'm glad that we have under 6.5 minus 110. Zach just said that we got breaking news. Do you know this? We got another winner. Zach pulled the. Because here's the thing, right, and we're not doing this just to inflate records. We literally we're doing so many shows this summer and you and I can talk, oh yeah, we see that. Yeah, that's the best bet. That's the best bet. We did have western michigan also on friday plus 24 and a half, so it was from a Friday show, not like from a March. I think it was just last Friday. We did a Western Michigan plus 24 and a half August 26 guys. 

33:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, I got it. I told you it was that Friday show is the. 

33:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It was that show, all right, good yeah. 

33:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, and that's a one day right. 

33:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was a all right. 

33:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think it was a Friday but I know why I missed it. I was the one where we gave out FAU. Yeah, and I was screaming to get FAU. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know why I missed it. 

33:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yep, another winner Boom. 

33:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's big time. 

33:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So since you, Five and one Like that since Friday. 

34:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's how you do it. What were you saying? We might want to play that. I think some listeners here are taking it All right. 

34:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Central Michigan's a best bet at five and a half. Yeah. 

34:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Go yeah, let's fire it off. What is going on? I think some holes in the people are we're taking that Just go. Yeah. 

34:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like that Key number of five and Just go. 

34:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I like that A number of five and a half. Yeah, Did you. 

34:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did you think, I didn't think that had an open seven I bet. That's why I just there's some funky movements, the market open, seven got bet down to four. I bet I laid a four. I mean I may get seven where it opened Boom. Look at that, the power. Yeah I agree, I'm watching? 

34:46
All right, are you VPN and stuff? Who is watching this? That's funny. I know who's watching. I'm talking. I know who's watching it, the people in the comments, stuff, but I'm talking about. You know the people that aren't in the comments that are watching this. Funny that that started moving. All right, lesson learned there? That's a lesson I just took from today's show. We can't be meandering, we gotta go, okay. Wow, uh, zach in the chat. 

35:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh no, let's talk tennessee, oh yeah yeah, tennessee, uh, oh, baby, they that was yeah, nico, if you haven't watched, the people are starting to get around to it. 

35:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Nico was unbelievable. I know they played a tomato cam, but we'll get a better look at Nico against NC State. Nc State was not a good look at all. Actually entered the fourth quarter down 21-17 to Western Carolina, so a ton of money coming in. On Tennessee, I agree with it. I make it nine. Is it best bet at seven and a half? No, but uh, I actually that's the one that I'm regretting. I missed on sunday morning. It was six and a half in some spots and I I don't know why I didn't bet it me. 

35:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, man, man, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm with you there, I it was one that was on like I should grab some. You know, maybe it'll and never never pulled trigger, and then now it's a cross pretty much, that's a regret. 

36:07
Yeah, yep, the old uh bet regret, but I, I, I agree I thought Tennessee looked fantastic and we you don't want to overreact to one week, but it it was one that I think deserves some, some movement there. In terms of that nc state performance is hard to hard to get the taste out of the mouth there. Um, because I, you're, they're gonna need to, that, they're gonna need to be a lot better to to stay within a touchdown of a tennessee team defensively. 

36:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah and uh. Yeah, I'm seeing the overs taking a little bit of money. It makes sense there. Yeah, they're gonna have problems keeping up there. Onion, onion man or no John in the chat who is a member? Georgia, southern Nevada, over 55. I played this side in this game. I played a little Nevada. I haven't played it total. 

36:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know it's funny because it's like a dead nuts over team versus a dead nuts under team. 

37:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How about Nevada? So far this season, though, I mean SMU to the limit, and then beat Troy on the road outright I don't know, holy hell, we got two data points on them and they're both really good. 

37:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, the defense when I was watching that SMU game. It's like, man, these defenses, this is a real deal. I don't have a real opinion on the total, though, yeah, I don't have it. I don't have a real opinion on the total, though I think that, yeah, I don't either I'm not, you got to give me. 

37:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like there's five or six totals that I had an idea looking at tempo and teams that have changed. But I'm not there yet with, you know, blindly betting all my numbers on totals. Yet I'm just, I need another data point or two. I'm not as good as sides, I'm just telling the people that so, 570 viewers, but we need to like, we love that 570 viewers. I mean we're setting, we're breaking not only show listenership but across all the hammer. 

37:58
I mean we just destroy the competition Breaking week after week. This is the show, not the NFL show which starts this week. This show right here. Flagship baby. Yeah, get the likes up though. At least get over 200 likes. I mean, at least get half of you can hit like if you're watching. Keep it up, though it helps when you win. Let's keep winning though, too. Onion man Thoughts on fading USC after the huge primetime win If Petras is actually out. I'm fading USC after the huge primetime win If Petras is actually out. I'm interested in plus 28 and a half. They had a couple quarterbacks play right. 

38:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They did Well. Petras got hurt. 

38:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, okay, he got hurt. Now the guy can't even play better, the kid from. 

38:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Utah, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, when it's like well, one, I can't. I still am like I cannot believe a team was starting Petra in 2024. I got to tell you so that was Joey K at Circa there on the 24. And that's a good bad man. I that was. That was probably the favorite one that we got in. 

39:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't how about they're they open in all them States Like everybody's being aggressive Fan doors? Obviously was super. I woke up Sunday morning early. I'm talking like I'm a five. How about they're they open in all them states like everybody's being aggressive fan doors? Obviously was super. I woke up sunday morning, I mean early. I'm talking like I'm about five, six am, and then the first time I'm looking like all these lines are I'm like holy cow. I can't go to bed on saturday nights I know. 

39:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean it's a utah state team that was like down to robert morris who's miserable um at halftime. Like I don't, I think I need, I think I need that this. I think it needs more, like I, yeah, I need more too. I, 28 and a half, is not um. 

39:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's not enough for me, because I guess he's gonna have a, if that's, he's got a legitimate defense. Yeah, really tough. Yeah, I agree with their flat. I mean defense, mean defense carries more than offense. It's not like I mean so. I was impressed with that defensive coaching staff last night. So, yeah, I agree. No, bet there on the dog John. San Jose State plus seven if it gets there. It's interesting. Market was very anti-San Jose State. They sucked for three quarters. They had a good fourth quarter. Nia Matalolo knows how to defend the option. Air Force was terrible against Merrimack. Merrimack's not a good FCS team, I know, I know. Oh, yeah, I think it's. I think I need seven, I don't know. I'll say this it's a good data point. I'm going to learn a lot about what these teams are, because I got a feeling that maybe neither is any good or somebody finally takes a step forward. I think both could be really bad, to be honest with you. 

40:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, and, as you say, Nita Montalolo, like it's knowing how to defend this system and that so you like that seven, we got seven, or no, I don't see any yeah. I feel like we wouldn't be the only, so that's another one that where is the timing gonna line up where we're on air for? But that's one that probably, if the sevens flash, I think they'll get bought pretty quickly good point. 

40:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Phil's suck 565. Am I missing something? Or does toledo minus 19 and a half look way too easy against umass team and lost by two touchdowns at home against a much worse opponent where? Where are you at on that one Market? There was an early 16 that got bet up, but I'm not there. On the power rating, no, I'm At 21,. I like UMass. 

41:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not totally there. Obviously that was a very disappointing performance, especially for some people in the tout wars there. Yeah, tout wars, yeah, I mean that was pretty gross. I'm not there either on this because it's a Toledo team that I think we were both a little down on to going into this season, didn't have? I mean just just I know they won 49 10 not the most impressive performance, uh, if you look at the box in that one. So yeah, I'm, I'm not there on that one rick smith in the chat. 

42:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Brad, how hard do you dgen on the fcs games? Do you buy low sports so you uh can watch, uh, colonial games? Have you ever bought a davidson pay-per-view? I do not teach in that hard. So here's what I do with fcs. I have a really good set of power ratings. I go through every box score of every game, uh, and I also think it's important to look at the market. What is the market doing? Uh, like I mean, just look at opening and closing lines from the week prior and it's a. It's a market. Why? Why is that important? Because it's a market that the public's not betting, so any anything that moves. It's just it's, it's all you know. People like myself, uh. So that's all I do, just power ratings, just basic, going through box scores. I'll watch it. 

42:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yes, pn plus has a ton of fcs games, so I'll watch them on their. Uh funny story I know of my guys who I met with got a flow. He did the flow sports free trial to watch one of the games when he had a big position on Forgot that. He did the free trial and then got charged for a full year of flow sports. So he had flow sports for a year, and it's completely ridiculously overpriced for the garbage they have. It's all Northeastern sports, so, yeah, I wouldn't recommend it. I will say ESPN Plus, though, is tremendous value. Yeah. 

43:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
ESPN Plus is worth it. So, yeah, I would say, get that at least guys, especially later in the season. I think the Missouri Valley, a lot of those games and those are the games that I'll watch when North Dakota State's playing South Dakota State and some of them other ones. I'll watch a little bit of them. 

43:30
But no just basic power ratings. I run so good in the FCS. It's ridiculous. A lot of it's just CLV just matters so much. I win everything with CLV and the FCS. I just wish there was a better balance between my portfolios, although I give you a big time loser. I really. Fcs was really good, but I gave you a big time loser. I told you to bet. I said it was soft because I didn't know what the hell West Georgia had, because they're coming from D2. They beat Sanford outright. Can you believe that With a first year coach? I know. 

44:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
First year? No, and I didn't, because I, we were. We're trying to, uh, you know, make a number on that one with some of the west did you bet it. I ended up betting a little bit on okay, so I never because you were at 23 and I know it got like it did drift out, like it got from like 16 to 21 and then they win outright. I was like what is happening? So, yeah, so that was I. 

44:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not all about talking about winners I. That was probably my most embarrassing bet of the of the weekend was. I bet Sanford and they lost dollars. A big favorite. I gotta keep an eye on West Georgia I. They were good at D two but they lost. Like most of their team, they got a first year coach. I went Sanford's like halfway decent FCS. That was stunning result, maybe the most stunning result of the weekend. 

44:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep. 

44:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Keep it rolling here, evan. In the chat Georgia Tech overvalued at minus three this week. Or do we think that cover train keeps rolling against the Q's team? We're fading this year. No, I think three's a solid number. If you bet this game, I see the over took a lot of money. 

45:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, yeah, I agree with the move on the over 20. 

45:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, yeah, I agree with the move on the over, don't? 

45:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I couldn't get man, I not a three and a half. No, no, no, you know, because it's I again. There were some holes with Syracuse, but I think you're really paying a premium now in Georgia Tech, because this is one that I think our friends at Fandle actually opened cirque. 

45:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, a small fave in this game um, when did the we gotta get with fando? I gotta know when. What time do they open those? Because I saw from them, yeah, there was because. 

45:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And then they like it's like a slow trickle too, it's like some games pop, yeah, yeah. So yeah, do you have an? 

45:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
idea what time it is, or anybody in the chat right now. What time Eastern time is that? So how early do I have to freaking, be waking up here on the West Coast and making phone calls back East? Because there was, we love FanDuel. Put them all up, not just 20 games early. Put them all up. 

46:01
Sox fan says 3 am Eastern Sunday. Most of the games are up. They must I got to, I'm going to have. Sax fan says 3 am eastern sunday. Most of the games are up. They must I gotta. I might have to stay up late then uh, 4 am. Rick says uh, so yeah, they were uh. Soft numbers is what I'm getting at. Like I would like a piece of some of that moving forward. So all right, then we just gotta stay up later. 

46:21
I went to bed I you were kind of tired on the show. I felt bad, but I was too like opening weekends different. It's just all summer leading up to it. Thursday you got a bunch of games. Friday you had some games Saturday. Like I feel better now week two because it's a different card, different set of lines. Like I'm more energized now than when I was last week. Uh, and speaking of that, uh, I gotta look. I lost my. I'm skipping ahead, zach, so I apologize. Mickey Hill in the chat, let's get this one. Is Miami that good or Florida that bad? A little bit of both, I think. 

46:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, I agree. A little bit of both there, I think. All right, you want to play? We do Futures, joey, there we go. Yeah, it's funny, too many of Florida coaches have sealed this fate. Conference Futures Joey K plays today. Okay, oh, you bet some. Yeah, yeah, bet some today. And I want you to give me the BP, yes or no. Little impromptu game here Miami. I already got it in pocket ACC plus 250. Yes, that's the best one you could bet yeah, I agree with you strongly, Yep even Even two to one. 

47:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Anything with a plus sign next to it. Yeah, I'm serious. Next one, next one plus sign next to it. Yeah, I'm serious. 

47:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Next one. Next one I think you're going to be in on too, because this is this was a BP team that I didn't totally believe in American athletic. Our baby got my patch on East Carolina. 

48:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, are you part of that steam today? 

48:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah. 

48:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like that. 

48:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that one too. 

48:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, cuz that's really like folks, 20 to 1 is super good if you want a long shot. That a little to win a lot. East Carolina 20 to 1. I love that price yeah me too. 

48:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that, I like that quite a bit. 

48:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was sneaky. They put up, they had six turnovers and still scored 40 points. Yeah, yep, yep, they look. I watched a little bit of their. Somebody was at their spring game and they had like a I don't know, I'm so old Cam quarter. Obviously it's their phone, but I watched a little bit of it, I'm like this fucking team is going to be good. 

48:38
I love East Carolina. Bet them over the total. Bet them to win the conference, bet conference. Bet them this week against Old Dominion although Old Dominion looked good, I got to tell you, zach, put up the total. East Carolina, old Dominion. I know we're taking a little bit of a bad number here. This is game of the year material for me. I think this. You won't hear me say lines off, a touchdown or 10 points, but I gave out the total this morning. It's already moved three points. 

49:08
Shop around, because I don't want you guys to take the worst of it. I like the over in this game, so we're not going to chart it. But if you're watching live, like the over Both teams, you're going to see that they ran 74 and 72 plays, which is above average. Neither one had the ball for even 25 minutes. They're running like. Both teams are running top five tempo. Uh, and you had a total at 49 this morning. 52 I love, love, love, love, love over there. But make sure we log all our bets at fanduel here. I want you to make sure you get the best number. So make sure you shop around. Over 52 is still good. I like it. I don't know I like it. 

49:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm in on it as, yeah, that one was just very sneaky. 

49:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't think the market is fully understood, because I think people aren't doing plays per minute. I think they're just looking at plays. Oh, who ran the most plays? They didn't have the football. Neither team did this past weekend. Oh, let me give you one more. One more. All right, one more. Sorry, I interrupted you on conference. 

50:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, that was cause I only got one left conference USA, sammy Houston state. Yeah, what's that? One at there was some 20, some 20, some 18, some 15, 12. Cause I, well, 12. Cause, here's the thing Western Kentucky trash. 

50:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jacksonville state look like trash. Yeah, they're going to play for the title, that's right. 

50:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's what I'm saying. The rest of the conference looked like. Absolute. Liberty didn't look good either. No, they did not. I think they'll be okay. No, I know they'll be okay. I'm just saying I mean again one week they look like the second. They got their new Juco quarterbacks pretty good. 

50:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, uh, yeah, I love them all, man, yeah, that's pretty sharp by you, let's, should we parlay them all together? I. I would not be stunned if you won. Well, you're gonna win the miami one. I wouldn't be a bit surprised, like I would not be totally stunned, if you won one of the other ones. That's how good I think that is. Uh, I love it. Yeah, good job by you. I'm glad you brought that up. People love that stuff. I'm shameful. I didn't bet sam houston state. 

51:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, in the summer I only bet liberty in that I didn't, well, I, I, I was not that like I wasn't over there win total. 

51:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I thought there could be a sneaky team this year, but I uh, I didn't bet on the one, that conference, that one, I'd say, is more like a conference USA thing, like I again they're. 

51:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
they were, like everybody in the conference looks like absolute looks terrible. 

51:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Louisiana tech almost lost. Yeah, although the turnovers were their issue in that game. Yeah, good point, that's, folks. That's why, yeah, although the turnovers were their issue in that game. Yeah, good point, folks. That's why he's the man, the myth, the legend. John in the chat. We got a few more, we got a lot. So I mean we go as long as Kanish wants to go here. John Hudson in the chat. Tulsa plus 7.5 at the Champions of Life A lot of money in Arkansas State. That was a box where it was not friendly for Arkansas State Probably. State Probably should have lost to Central Arkansas. They had a questionable call at the end to go their way. I was thankful for the win total, but if you met Central Arkansas money line, I'd feel for you there. What's? 

52:12
the uh boy six and a half. No, where's he seeing seven and a half? I guess I know I'm seeing mostly sevens. 

52:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's like a smattering of seven and a half out there where you at. 

52:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
On that one I laid four. Nobody cares, okay, yeah, no, I mean at like seven and then I don't know, I think my adjustment after I really deep dive, watch it, some games and stuff, I'm guessing my final number on the movie like six. 

52:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So yeah, yeah, probably, but not a six and a half yeah charles again in the chat. 

52:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, great to look at a new board. Yep, just mentioned that. What do you guys think about? Uh, did I already read this question? I think I did what. What am I doing? I think I went to the top of the board. I'm weird. I must have scrolled to the top. Derek, I'm just looking. I'm going way down. John, michigan State plus eight and a half Maryland thoughts. I'm not interested in that. 

53:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I mean that was rough for SFAU. They also had a couple of my Sparty guys sent to me. They had a couple of injuries too from some for a couple starters. Hold on here. Let me get through the actual Alante Brown, dylan Tatum, both going to be out for this one, and Khalil Majeed, who guys were all on the two deep there that are all out and not a team with a lot of depth, uh and not an offensive performance that, um, inspires a lot of confidence. So, and I know it was you, I know it was our, you are our Huskies, but uh, maryland just absolutely dropped a bomb on you. Like I would be down on Maryland this year, give him crap. I mean, I know it's UConn, but dropped a 60 spot. Uh, to be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised if that one hits 10 yeah, oh, it's touched 10 and there's been some buyback back and forth. 

54:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, you're right, though I I think 10's my number. Trevor in the chat was impressed with raiola. I think he could shred this colorado secondary like the over. I bet that one on open, yeah you got it. 

54:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, man, and that was our whole freshman QB. He had a lot of volume, put up a lot of yards, looked the part, physically, looks the part. I mean the guy looks like he's like 25. So I'll give him credit. Maybe a little bit of a diva, but he looked real deal. And if he's real deal, then Nebraska is real deal. What do you think of? 

54:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
this side. All right, I'm just going to get this out there because I'm so anti-Colorado I would lean Colorado getting the hook. 

54:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, really, yeah, I would. I thought, okay, I thought you had done a little double cross there. I thought you were saying that. 

55:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, no. Just to prove that it's all numbers. It's all numbers. For me there might be a little too negativity on Colorado after the North Dakota State game. I don't know, I'm not betting it yet because I mean I do want Colorado to lose this game. I need it for the win total. But let's see where that line goes. I would lean with the hook. I'd lean Colorado. I think Nebraska struggled in space, although Nebraska's defensive line in theory should whip Colorado's offensive line. Charles, we already just talked the agree on the Maryland minus seven and a half. All right, let's scroll down. I'm sorry, I'm scrolling down. I'm all over the board here. Rw Fan 23 Baylor. I like Baylor. I don't know if I like him at the current number I gave him. Gave him on the top service. I think it's moved three points, so 14. No, anything above 14. Yes, what's? 

55:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
your thoughts on that game're playing. Yeah, I was with you. I thought I saw that come across for you and I, I'd agree, um, at at anything, I, I, baylor looked the and again it was a tarlington team whose the quarterback was out, but um, it looked much improved offensively. And I don't know, I don't, I don't love, and again it's utah. At home people, you know the home street, all that home field advantage in that. I don't love Utah having to win by margin versus a real real deal, uh, and I think you can call Baylor a real opponent now, um, so I don't know, I, I, I like that one at over 14 as well. 

56:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Patrick in the chat. Happy Monday guys. Were you able to catch Northwestern at plus money right when it came out? Did you help move it Boise Oregon over? A good bet for this week. I lean Boise Oregon over Northwestern. I did not catch it. That was another. That's one of the ones I was mentioning. It must have been up at 3 am in the morning. I did bet the under. That was at another book. Uh, that was way too high. So it's like what? 45. I'm pretty comfortable there. Did you do anything? It's a friday game. Northwestern a good data point. Northwestern hosting duke I. I have had two people. 

57:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, I've filled some plus three for multiple sources, so on some Duke at three here, but it would only be again guys. 

57:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Market hates Northwestern Just does Integrity. 

57:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Not the most inspiring offensive performance from either team week one, but I was inspiring, was that view? Oh, I just dropped the other stadium and figure out how to build my permanent stadium just put in some more stands in that like what would you even need to spend the money for? 

57:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, I know, just to make that the permanent spot. Yeah, it doesn't have to be big 30 000, that's it. Yep, that's beautiful. I mean that's really you don't have to do, you're all worried about money. I mean that's really you don't have to do, you're all worried about money. I mean that's your recruiting budget. Just have the game on tv, just have everybody watching it. You know you're doing. I mean, come on, that lake, michigan's beautiful. What a view. I'm glad that they did that. That was smart. Uh, looking at chat all right, some player props, and we're not going to get to everything, guys. That's why I'm like skipping and looking at a bunch of different stuff. I mean you guys are very active, we appreciate it. Uh, taking over 206 and a half passing yards, when the quarterback throws for 59 and the team finishes with 192 total yards, is an early contender for worst bet of the year. Kanish well, of course people would focus on the negative went five and one and they're gonna focus on that one. 

58:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Dilly, yeah, it's going to be on the wall of shame. We'll put it like that. Yeah, so at least that won't be up there on the prop ring. Hopefully you played the sides in the round robin to make up for it, but yeah, it was an ugly one for sure. 

58:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Charles and the chap App State against Dabo. What were you thinking? There? That's 17 and a half. 

59:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So I took a little. I think it was 18 and a half. Listen, chuck, you're not going to get a positive take out of Clemson for me Now I will say App State some injuries to real people in week one and so they took a little bet against ETSU. But you're going to have to prove it to me, if you're Clemson, that you can cover margin versus a team with any type of points. 

59:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There will be no fear for Map State in this game. 

59:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, so I like it at over 17 and a half or at over 17. 

59:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
As a best bet. No, are you there? I'll look at the board quick. We'll give out one or two in like five minutes or so. We'll give out one or two. Uh, speaking of one, I held this in the chambers act for a reason, because there's already tout wars and well, he's not a tout. But uh, in compete competing. 

59:55
Uh, today and I'm part of it this week I set out the eastern Michigan-Massachusetts game but Tunes is on SMU. He laid 10. I don't like SMU, I like BYU in the game. Mickey mentioned SMU minus 10. I like BYU in the game. 

01:00:10
I mean, I just who has SMU beat the last couple years? I mean, just go through it. They have Memphis on the road they didn't cover. I guess Tulane, but Tulane was overrated at the end of last season. I just, I know BYU stats from last year aren't good but I I liked how they competed. I watched them from last year because I don't have a life, but they could have quit last year. 

01:00:31
They look at their Oklahoma State Oklahoma games. They were. I mean they could have won either game to get to a bowl they played. Southern Illinois is like a playoff team at the FCS level. You got to understand like okay, it wasn't like plus five yards per play margin, but they were playing somebody like with a pulse of the FCS level and they easily covered. And I bet against BYU last week. I bet on SMU last week, laying like 45 against Houston Christian. I played against Bu last week, uh, and my numbers say this line should be like nine, nine and a half. So there you go. Where are you at? On this one you're with mr muscles not. 

01:01:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say I was able to sneak in a little minus nine and a half after, uh, after the VP, so the small. But it would have to be under 10 for me on SMU, so that would be. 

01:01:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll come back to it. It's the Friday show leading into it. I like BYU a lot in the game. In fact I like them live. 

01:01:32
to be honest with you, that's how much I like them, I don't I go. Smu's offensive line concerns me. They just do. I watch them get whipped against Nevada. I just think them. Big boys on BYU. They're not a great BYU defense but I like their defensive coordinator, so I like BYU. We'll come back to that one on Friday. We got to get another best bet out here. What the hell do I like we gave out Central michigan yeah I was glad, I'm glad we. 

01:02:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that one the more I was one that I hadn't looked back at the number in a minute and uh I'm gonna run somebody. 

01:02:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, I gotta look at my. I got my sheet here. Uh, kansas state we haven't talked this one. What do you think of the kansas state to lane game? I got my sheet here. Kansas State we haven't talked this one. What do you think of the Kansas State-Tulane game? Should we be at the top of the board, zach? As far as rotation, what's your thoughts here? 

01:02:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's been back and forth in the market on this game. I can lean that way under 10 as far as Kansas State was concerned. 

01:02:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, they were more dominant than the final. Yeah, keep in mind they lost to Tulane a couple years ago. They'll be focused. I like Kansas State. Do we give it out at 9.5? If? 

01:02:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
it's under 10, yep, 9.5. All right, 9.5. I bet it at 9.5. I laid 8 a half. All right, nine and a half. 

01:02:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet it a nine and a half. I laid eight, I laid nine and a half. Let's go Best bet Kansas State minus nine and a half. Boom, that's what I'm talking about. 

01:03:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I got two, you got one, I got two ugly ugly dogs I need to run. 

01:03:21
Oh, yeah, we're going. You know where we're going I actually do. One is our, is our falcons at three, at five touchdowns first, first penn state. And I know people are going to say penn state looks phenomenal. I understand that they didn't, and I'm I'm a buyer, so don't get me wrong. I like penn state, yeah, and I know james franklin knows the spread. It's all the every. I know the spread. Oh, we can't give that. We can't do it at 34 and a half. 

01:03:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, we can't so listen we'll come back on Friday, cause there's a lot of love for Penn state. Yeah. 

01:03:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We'll come back to that one. We like the other one, which I don't, and I and I. This is hard to do against two diehard, fighting Irish fans that I do the show with now with you and uh zach any interest in northern illy. 

01:04:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There's always an interest in betting against notre dame. I was just, I, just I was waiting, I was waiting, uh, but now, uh, now we're not waiting at 30 and a half, I think is that what we? 

01:04:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
got I was waiting waiting for 31,. 

01:04:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Though, man, you don't have patience. I don't know if we're going to get to it. 

01:04:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know if we're going to get it either, because it's 29. I don't. It's one of the better prices that's out there at the moment. 

01:04:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Interesting. Yeah, I mean it's a clear flat spot. They put everything into that game. I don't think they'll run even Riley Leonard at all. He's a little bit. I'm not saying he's not gonna play, but he ain't gonna. He's not gonna run like he did in the fourth quarter. Best bet. 

01:04:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Sorry, I delayed that for obvious reasons, I wanted to get. 

01:04:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I had to make sure I had not bet that yet. I wanted to make sure I got down. Best bet Anything over, I would say 28. 

01:05:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm with you on that because I like that one One Northern Illinois looked, I'm placing some more. 

01:05:08
Western Illinois is really bad. They are really bad, really really bad. I don't like, like, haven't won a game in years. Bad, they did look good, they did look good, yeah, yeah. So I'll give them some that and, as you, this is a notre dame team that I again, very again, great defense, I think can be physical, showed some juice with the running back position, not a team that I think is going to be like, as you said, I think they got to conserve riley leonard, they that I don't think the passing game is going to be super explosive, just not kind of. That was not, that's not a riley leonard staple. 

01:05:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, to cover, you know, 33, 34, 35 possessions yeah, I I'm with, especially if you're a little flat coming off the game. 

01:05:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, yeah, super physical game I endorse that. Yeah, that's a great bet. 

01:06:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like that Great bet so much that I delayed and made sure I bet it before you people bet it. That's a good one there. What else we got? Anything else? 

01:06:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's three. 

01:06:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm just looking. What do you think? Money on Sam houston. 

01:06:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm opposite of that oh, really well, that was your uh, that was the uh the show, the right angle boys yeah, I, I just think, yeah, I mean, I get it, sam, houston state was unbelievable. 

01:06:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But uh, I think you're sometimes fat and happy you got that big outright upset win. How much are you going to put into this game? You know it's Central Florida hammers teams man, I know, yeah, that's exactly where I was going. 

01:06:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's like it's a you really, if you're not on it, they love. 

01:06:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I looked it up. This just isn't talk Under Malzahn laying three touchdowns or more. They're 7-1. Not straight up ATS, yeah. So, they hammer teams, they do hammer. 

01:07:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, oh, we'll come back maybe to that one. I can't believe we didn't Cyhawk, oh yeah. 

01:07:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We got to talk this before we go off. 

01:07:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are you? 

01:07:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
responsible for this. There was market manipulation on this game today. Was there not? 

01:07:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
there. Well, I mean, it was moving around, for sure, but I know some people. I, I know. This is one where I know some people on multiple sides of like like this is a it's not a tout wars game yet, but it's a like people who know what they're talking about wars game yet, where I know some multiple people on two and a half and I know multiple people on three and there was even a little three and a half for a bit. So you're, I know you're, you're on, you're, you're riding with the, the hawk guys, yeah I'm not wild about it, it's just. 

01:07:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know, I think it's a low variance game with a low total. You lay two and a half, you take three and a half. So you want to go ahead to head it. Two and a half, I'm fine with that, but I don't want to go against the show. Don't we have three and a half on the show, or three we, I think? 

01:08:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
we got three from the game of the year, all right I'm rooting for the show we we need to win. 

01:08:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm gonna keep this right. 

01:08:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is one, what I bet. Uh, some more. There were some three actually, I think there were three and a half today. 

01:08:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, uh, but full disclosure, I laid two and a half I just, and I know some other bad numbers, so, but I'm rooting for the show. 

01:08:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean a couple interesting like iowa. You're like oh my god, you know I was trolling people after the first half, like you know that and so all you were online, so I have you to blame for the loss in the in the in some might have been gotten a little feisty in the group chats with the offense, and then iowa state scored in, like literally 30 seconds on the first possession, a couple of big bombs, and then it kind of got stale for a while. 

01:09:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Didn't North Dakota have like a 20-play drive? 

01:09:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, they could not get off the field on like third and long Got it. Third and long Got it. 

01:09:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A couple more in the chat. I'm sorry we didn't get to everybody and I was all over the board. Scatterbrain, brendan in the chat, pitt, cincy thoughts I'm bringing this up because I'm intrigued. Cade, bell and Holstein looked very good even though it was Kent State. They did. They ran some tempo. Offense looked good. That was one I had regrets not betting more on. I bet the over in the game. I wouldn't touch now side or total, though would you. 

01:09:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, it really. Yeah, it's moved pretty good on that one, but I agree with the over position, the over move, but no real strong opinion on the side. It did look like, finally, that Narduzzi just said go ahead and install that, that western carolina offense he did and it looked good. 

01:10:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And keep in mind, uh he's had when he's had good offensive corners in the past that pit offense has been uh, they've been a good over team so I didn't bet the over since he didn't look that great uh in their, in their game. Uh, we wrapping up the show, matt in the chat Wazoo, texas Tech over 66. You know not the best price, but that's the only way to put it at that game. 

01:10:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I got Wazoo like one. They got the market and they just dropped a bomb on Portland State and got faded strongly in that game but like I mean, looked like the good old wazoof we know, we know and love from years past it didn't look. 

01:10:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Didn't look like they had a 50 spot. What 49 at halftime in a game that I bet against them. It was unbelievable what here? 

01:10:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
okay? Oh, let's say they were in the Mountain West this year. Would they be favored to win the conference right now? 

01:11:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So this is in the weeds for right now. What's their playoff market look like? To make the playoffs? Because they have Washington. They could beat them. They have Texas Tech. This week they play Mountain West schedule. I mean if they're 11 and 1, 12, and oh are they in the playoffs. 

01:11:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Friends, it looks like 41 at FanDuel. I don't man, but like so do. How does that? Because they wouldn't be the G5. 

01:11:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They wouldn't be the G5, but I mean, if you're 11 and one 12, and oh, I mean you're going to be in, I don't know, are we doing it? I'm not yet. I got to see him this week. Yeah, I agree. You know, what's going to happen? People are going to watch this show. They'll bet the. 

01:11:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh yeah, right, Right, right, right, yeah, do we want 20 to one? I don't have strong enough conviction. Yeah, I don't? 

01:12:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, it's one of those like I'm just saying. It's sneaky, is it not? 

01:12:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
it is, I mean it. I mean, yeah, now, granted, it's texas tech, then at washington, and then they got, and then they got, oh my god. 

01:12:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Then they got boise and road games trying to get in front of it. Yeah, let me see what they do against Texas Tech. I mean they got to be obviously Tech almost lost. 

01:12:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean the schedule is insane. Like Texas Tech at Washington, at Boise, at Fresno, like those are for the next five weeks. 

01:12:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, no, now, granted, if they run the table they're probably None of them are surefire losses, but I mean for them to run it. We'll see. They did look good, though I mean they All right, I think we got. I mean this was we hit 600 viewers. That's a record. Oh baby, we did. Yeah, we hit that. So that's an announcement. I thought we I mean we added to the conference portfolio, so we like that. If you're watching that live, you could have gotten that. We added some best bets, zach, if you want to pull them up, we'll release three games this week. I think that's a solid show. 

01:13:13
Yeah, yeah baby, there we go Kansas State minus 9.5. I like that. We're playing the number there. Iowa State minus 9.5. I like that. We're playing the number there. Iowa State plus 3. That's from earlier this summer. But in the game of the years, northern Illinois like that, playing Notre Dame off the big win Central Michigan. We got in front of that. So yeah, I think we're good. We got four in for the week Plus a conference. We'll have 3-4 on Friday. I'm feeling pretty good. I like it. All right, anything else. 

01:13:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, let's. Uh, I think that's good for a real wrapper up and we'll see everybody on. 

01:13:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Friday? Absolutely so for the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Kanish. For producer extraordinaire Zach Phillips, for all the questions and comments that we got to. All the ones we didn't, I apologize, but we'll get to you on Friday, and we also have a Saturday show as well. You just watched hit the books, part of the hammer betting network sponsored by FanDuel.