00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
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02:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Visit gamblinghelplinemaorg or call 1-800-327-5050 for 24-7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8-hope new york or text hope new york in new york, kanish. How was your week, buddy? Good week, uh, busy week, but hey, that's, that's the business we've chosen. Uh, football season, so a little bit hectic. Uh, all things going a little cross promo, if you want to hear about the the week in a life. Uh, me and me and the pizza man did a circles off episode of kind of what we both do on a day-to-day basis during the football season. It's a real company man here Also, apparently, what I have to do now is get the schmucks behind the scenes on this show on task here.
03:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, if you were listening to Mr Zach Phillips last week, he said he wasn't going to schedule until later. Because, for those of you that have been trying to get in questions early today, zach said he was going to schedule it later because it's unfair to the people that are actually watching the show live and all we do for an hour is, you know, answer questions about people that are first in. Look, I'm an, I'm a farmer or you, or you know, first come, first serve, but we spent the entire hour answering questions that were asked two hours before the show even started. So, uh, we're trying to get a healthy balance here. So, if you were listening, zach, he said that man, am I correct? Am I looking at you, listening to?
03:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
someone other than myself. So, uh, yeah, no, I did. I heard this, I heard him, we're gonna, he's gonna open it later. So I which I agree with, but not till no show, promo till two o'clock. Morettos flying around the country, uh, meeting some old friends having drinks. I don't know where horvat is, uh, you know, he might be living under a riot. It's can't the sixth canada day of the year, he might have the day off, so. But I'm juiced up, ready to get into the week two. Card. Good week one. Let's go baby. Let's go back to back.
04:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we did have a good week. One Week zero left a little bit to be desired, but we rebounded. Like winners do A few best bets. We'll talk about them that we've already given out Central Michigan, northern Illinois, iowa State, kansas State. Central michigan, northern illinois, iowa state, kansas state. Uh, a little money market doesn't like that. We'll get into that and I'll give you some reasons why on that one, uh. But let's just get right to the chat here. Uh, there we go.
04:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's the best already look at that negative clv on kansas. Now we got one guy asking about something that's gonna give me more fired up uh, oh, here we go.
05:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Mickey hill in the chat. He's first one and we got we got a couple new members. Dylan Charles saw new members. Keep in mind, if you're a member, to your priority as far as questions being asked. Make sure you become a member. Make sure you're also hitting that like and subscribe button. Mickey Hill though. Long time listener, long time contributor. He caught at minus 16 and a half on WVU on Sunday. Does he mean Virginia Tech?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say west virginia's playing an fcs team and that's a line, that's, that's a great one um, trying for a middle opportunity with marshall.
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Been waiting on a plus 21 that probably isn't coming. Do you feel like a middle play at plus 20 and a half is sound, depends. Uh, do you originate numbers? What's your number on the game? If your number is 17, 18, sure go for the middle. I sure Go for the middle. I wouldn't just go for the middle to do it. The only time I really do it is if I'm overextended on one side and I want to get off a little bit, or if my number smacked out in the middle and if I saw that you know where the line is right now. If that was the opening line, I said, hey, I want to make that bet. Then I make that bet. Do you concur?
06:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, and you know what, sometimes I'll even if I know a number is going to move load up as much as I can on a position with the idea to you know, buy back some at a certain point. In that instance, though, I got to be honest with you. I would. I'm one, I'm pro-Virginia. I'm not going to let the Vandy loss there detract me from still being semi-bullish on Virginia Tech. Vandy had a lot going in that game. They were fortunate they had new offense that Virginia Tech wasn't ready for, and Virginia Tech in the first half I don't know what the fuck they were doing on offense and that second half they were letting it fly and they were able to get back in the game. I think you'll see more of that from the jump here. First, a Marshall team. That I don't think is very good. I don't love Braylon Braxton, I think for me, if it's me, and I have some similar position around there on Virginia Tech, I'm letting it fly.
07:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet Marshall had a terrible number because I wasn wasn't sure if drones was playing. I didn't know the extent of the thing, remember he didn't play in overtime, so I was like man, if he wasn't good enough to play of overtime, maybe he's questionable this week, but it was just cramps, uh 21. I'd be betting marshall, though, just saying I mean I gotta play numbers. John, in the chat, any positions on cal at auburn? The homer in me says Auburn by 21. Yeah, I laid it with Auburn. Money did come in on Cal. You got to follow them Friday moves Very recently.
07:29
yeah, you got to respect the moves, I should say. But it's a square bet, but I think Auburn smashes them.
07:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Jack. What's the number? Because this came when it was trending 13-14,.
07:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was out 12 and a half, I think you can find?
07:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think you can find 12 I think 10 and a half, some flat 12s around um 11 and a half's available. We can't take a point of the worst, yeah I agree, um with that said, I think under 13 is. Uh, I played some 12 myself, um so, and I know there was even a lighter numbers earlier you want to lay it, forget it, let's just lay it.
08:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean that all important number of 12.
08:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come on, yeah no, I'm with you. I'm with you on the best bet right off the top auburn minus 12 and a half I think the number should
08:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
be, the way it was trending towards 14 is what the number should be. I agree with you.
08:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think they're just if you dig into some of the UC, they probably should have lost to UC Davis. Dig it into that score and I think Auburn I'm not going to go too, I'm going to revenge, look at it last year or anything, but like I think they're significantly improved this year on a lot of facets and this should be a tough first road trip for cal, one of many. They've got this year.
08:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, auburn played a terrible fcs team last week, but I do believe that the passing game is improved this year. The wider receiver room is better. Therefore, I am more inclined to be willing to lay points with this auburn team if they're not one dimensional. I'm just running peyton thorne, so there we go. Congrats for those that tuned in right away. Best bet auburn crest man. Oh my god, we got breaking news here. Congrats on the 5k subs oh, baby, wow, that's big time five stuff.
09:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
How many is?
09:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
how many is forward? Does forward progress have more? I don't think so.
09:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You sure I think there's only one they don't have live viewers.
09:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They must be pumping up those numbers yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah by.
09:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know russian bots here logging on to. You know, whatever we do, I might have to. You know, go get a a tech guy somewhere in asia to do that.
09:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So uh six thousand six hundred forward folks. Yeah, in the live shows we do double the audience.
09:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean listen the live shows, the pod downloads. Come on, people, let's get this over here. We can't have forward progress.
09:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah.
09:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Trying to come at the flagship show for this station.
10:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
RWFan23, he's a subscriber. Thoughts on the double dipping on Clemson under eight and a half wins at plus money Thoughts I thought we gave out a nine and a half right, we did give out nine and a half.
10:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He's saying there's eight and a half, I think, like reposted. But you said eight and four, you said it. Here's the problem. And while I love our original position, acc sucks yeah, I spent in Florida State, specifically sucks. So what was a game where I was chalking that up as another loss? Uh, you know, at Florida State now looks like, well, don't get me wrong, I still think by all means they could lose that game. But a game that I had them with confidence losing now is probably, you know, 50, 50. Yeah, more of a coin flip there. So, um, I wouldn't double dip, I think, but I wouldn't be surprised if they went eight and four, uh, or seven and five. Um, I there's. There was nothing outside of the defensive front that impressed me in any way versus Georgia. I think maybe the receiver position is a little better. What do you think of the Clemson-App game?
11:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
App looks too easy.
11:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What Too easy. Betting against Clemson has been too easy for two years.
11:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They covered their last five games of last season. Come on two years.
11:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
they they covered like their last five games the last season.
11:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Come on um. I just I need a 17 and a half. Where's that 17.?
11:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, mostly 17. Zach, what do we got? Pull it up, baby, if you're not. You know doing a hand swinging a hammer 17 on the dot. You know doing a hammer swinging a hammer 17 on the dot. Have you want to take it? I bet a little bit, but I would. That would be the last buy point for me. I know last week and this probably won't come out till game day App state had some key contributors that were banged up and out and that stuff. So I that's one pregame I'll be paying attention to closely.
12:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This brings up a point. It's only week two, but we had money late in the week come in on Clemson last week. We had money come in against App State last week. So sometimes I like to wait those out. Maybe get another data point to see what the market thinks Guys that have a little bit bigger bankrolls than us. A point to see what the market thinks you know guys that have a little bit bigger bankrolls than us. Uh see what? But I hear you I could only bet app state, but I I don't think it's a super high value. I think everybody's thinking that. Uh, charles saw in the chat belem. Uh, uh, live hold thoughts. I bet kansas. Enough, said you like illinois no, no, I'm with you.
12:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I I will say I thought illinois looked more and and again FCS team yada yada. They did look more functional on offense than I thought they would. It was a very nice dominant performance last week, kind of doing what they had to do. So that surprised me a bit. With that said, I still would be on the Kansas side, I think, because I agree. I mean in terms of coaching mismatches there that's a significant gap.
13:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Saw it last year on a Friday night, just total coaching. Mismatch Anthony in the chat with the two really low totals. So here we go. This is the one I was talking about. Does a Duke-Iowa State tease make any sense?
13:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It did at some point in the past at FanDuel specifically. Fanduel was the book that used to give out 6-point plus 110 teasers on college football until some other folks in the industry decided to ruin that. Listen teaser pricing this is the biggest thing. Does your logic make sense? On the surface, yes, teaser pricing, though, across the industry has gotten significantly worse over and much worse for nfl, even worse for college, uh, or not even also worse for college football, where the like the six point minus 110 teaser is mostly dead, like just show's over like just shows over a new market and Dr.
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Wong is rolling over in his grave somewhere. Cause there was a time when you could just, you know, six point, tease your waist, the, you know, the, the, the, the penthouse. Those days are over. So I would say no. Unless you got, you know, unless you got some special pricing on teasers for college football somewhere that I'm not aware of, unfortunately. Unless you got some special pricing on teasers for college football somewhere that I'm not aware of, unfortunately, I would say no.
14:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Patrick in the chat. Happy Friday guys. How do we feel about Illinois this week? Are there any plus money lines? Well, we don't like Illinois. We just mentioned that we will give you the Moneyline Parlay at the end.
14:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Moneyline Parlay is coming up. Three of four last week Got a little too greedy with uh four legs, get more.
14:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like one of them that might turn into a best bet. Uh, so we'll see how about that. In the chat wazoo money line, texas tech, south alabama money line, ohio, wake forest money line virginia. Of the ones that are listed there, I like Washington State the best. I would agree. Texas Tech, I think pretty beat up. Yeah, really banged up. Also, I don't think there's easy. Is there easy travel from Lubbock to Pullman? There had to be a layover somewhere and a bus trip somewhere.
15:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I'm with you. I'm with you.
15:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to go washington state money line yeah, I see washington state money line minus 111.
15:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, that looks good that looks good, let's do it. Fire it up, baby. Yeah, I'm with you on washington state money line wazoo. So yeah, there is some. There's been some texas tech kind of yeah, who is behind that?
15:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know, I don't know, which is never an old bp old tout services on washington state, dr bob's on washington state, washington state. For me, tech took a little bit of money.
15:52
Today, though, yeah, I'm not afraid I'm not scared, no, uh, until I see like results. It's a different market, a different age every year. So I I'll respect the moves more in a couple weeks more I mean you always respect. I'll respect the moves more in a couple weeks more I mean you always respect news, but I respect them more in a couple weeks from now than I do right now because I, I mean there's constant tout takes this position. You know moves, a point and a half the tout comes in and goes opposite. It's just crazy right now. Uh, shawnee sports, rather have a michigan ticket or a colorado ticket. At the current numbers, I would rather have a michigan ticket or a colorado ticket. At the current numbers, I would rather have a michigan ticket. Speaking of key numbers, oh yeah, and key moves. I thought that was particular yesterday, the michigan move, and I thought that was particular this morning, the colorado move. I agree with both.
16:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like both dogs in those games you like the, you're wearing the prime I like both dogs in those games.
16:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You like the.
16:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're wearing the primes I like colorado I think colorado's live oh my, oh my, I, uh it, I, so it's it. Actually, I thought that maybe I saw it a little lower when, uh, for a minute there no, maybe I was I thought I saw some five and a half sixes, but I think they didn't bottom that low. Um, no, I, I gotta tell, oh, I'm, I'm concerned, folks, I'm concerned that, uh, you know the local national champions in ann arbor, um, I mean, did I best?
17:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yes, I like that, bet there, give me seven and a half.
17:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I understand, and the totals come way down Seven and a half.
17:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And you're scared, mr. Over nine and a half wins is scared.
17:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They sold me up a creek with you know the orgy stuff. I got sold the bill of goods that you know we were going to have a functional quarterback, and then my man, jackie tuttle, was gonna, uh, you know, be, uh, be healthy this year. But uh, we're, we're a jack tuttle away from 11 and one. I'll tell you that. But, um, I don't know, I'm not listen. Did I make a smaller position at seven and a half? Yes, I like the under much better, not anymore, though it's steamed down seven points. So, um, you want to go head-to-head on colorado, nebraska no, not at the current.
18:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Not the current number you just said they were live yeah they were, but I mean I prefer them live at seven and a half. Uh yeah, I'm not doing it, I mean because I'm going to kind of root for him to lose. I know my luck. I need him to lose. So no, I don't want to go head-to-head, but seven and a half, that was a. I didn't bet it. I couldn't bet it, I don't know why. D Lee in the chat, brad, oh, here we go. Margaret hates BYU. That's a pick for me. Oh yeah, hates Kansas State Another pick by me. Any clue what's going on? Oregon Boise Lions been pinballing thoughts. Well, I guess you should watch the Mr Muscles podcast and the Tailgate podcast for the BYU-Kansas State opposition.
19:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean we.
19:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to speak?
19:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
live, I byu still live, I'm not that concerned I, I listen, I was a little bit more against you on that move. Um, I, I'm gonna have to see it from two lane. I, I don't know. I thought 10 was the. Again that's the number. Again, both of them are in the range that would be out of interest to me, I think. Either way, I thought 10 was fine on. You know, if you're going to play it too late Under 10, you know, taking Kansas State, and the same thing now with SMU. It's kind of in that dead zone where you're going to have BYU buyers that if it touches 13, you had some SMU buyers at 9.5-10. I don't have a strong take on either of those games. To be honest with you, I think that was just kind of a little bit of a numbers play, people playing numbers both ways. But you you are converting to Mormonism here with the BYU Live.
19:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not buying SMU. Who did they beat last year? Go look through it. They're getting so much respect. They didn't beat anybody as bad as byu was last year look at their last two games a year ago and wants to beat oklahoma almost beat oklahoma state. So all right, we'll see that. We'll find out in a few hours. So mr muscles maybe puts me in chokehold. I go to sleep for a week. Uh, austin m? Uh, any thoughts on umass toledo? Maybe under? Oh, you know, we didn't mention there was was another game that he mentioned there. What was that? Oh, the Boise-Oregon game oh yeah, I like Oregon.
20:31
But who is behind? Oh, it was Dr Bob. He likes Boise State at 21. I like Oregon at the current number.
20:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I God I'm having trouble getting past the Oregon oregon offensive line performance. I thought it was really bad. You look at that and I know gabriel was able to kind of, you know, chuck it up and down. You're short, passing down the field very efficient. I don't know how boys, he doesn't just roll out the same defense. It's that classic. You know three, three, five, you drop eight, um and you keep it in front of you and the Boise offense is pretty good.
21:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So I kind of lean Boise, but it only would have been a play for me at the 21. Now to the UMass.
21:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Toledo game from Austin. I only knew UMass. I do too. Yeah, what's the price?
21:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
we got. I didn't time it enough. I was waiting for a 21. Am not in mid-season form. As far as market timing, it's been a little goofy so far. So, uh, it got to like 20, 20 and a half. I thought the market would wait, uh, for a 21 to pop oh never did they bought it. I can't do it at 17 and a half now, but I think umass is the right side. I missed that one too.
21:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I'm with you. I was really this is more, I think an anti-Toledo position. I would not have been impressed with that. I don't love who they've got at quarterback. I don't think they should be the favorite to win the MAAC or in there. So again, strong, strong, anti-toledo UMass. Hopefully it looks better maybe eastern, though I understand, but I like, I agree with the move strongly. It would have been, it would have been a best bet had that number stayed around 20.
22:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
agree the missed opportunity. So you know what that means umass outright yeah, you may.
22:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I should have put them in the money line.
22:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, casts in the chat. What do you make of the Auburn Cal line movement? We disagreed and made Auburn the best bet. Oh, action Sports Central Surprised you haven't been all over ECU versus ODU, or has your opinion changed? In ODU, the line move through zero is concerning. We're not the only town, I'm not the only tout service that had some lines move against me this week. So it's a. It's a weird market this year. Uh, I I bet East Carolina in the game, so I'm not concerned. I bet East Carolina. I would bet them at that number. I am all in, though, on the over in the game.
23:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, I, I, you know what. There's another one. I know that, like obviously a number of people on East Carolina, old Dominion keeps getting bought back and I mean you have to look at Old Dominion's performance and be like they literally should have beaten an SEC team in their house. So you know you want to talk week one performances. That maybe don't get enough. You know when you lose the game you don't get the same bump as if you win, but they should have won that game. So obviously significantly improved team.
23:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
With that said, yeah, I'm with you on East Carolina Would lean that way at pick yeah, I, I I'm already like, I already bet East Carolina earlier this week East Carolina over the win total, old Dominion under the win total, the total. I mean, that's the most important game of the week for me, so I I don't want to continue to add to that. Stress, zach in the chat. Uh, happy week too. Been seeing some major Friday movement. Yeah, we did see a bunch today San Jose State, mississippi State, nevada Was that you guys? Was that me? Was that you?
24:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So none of honestly. I kind of disagree with the San Jose State move. The other two moves, I see it understand the Friday and, to give you an answer, the Friday money is usually the first time the really serious professional syndicates get involved. That's why, you see, you know it's usually pretty dormant. Wednesday, thursday and then friday is when you start getting um the really, really serious money and then into saturday morning with some stuff, so um. But I I gotta be honest with the san jose state one I thought was aggressive, uh would lean, lean with the other two. I am surprised that san jose state has gotten all the way back down. That was a three and a half currently trading most places, even some. I mean there's even a three out there which I was pretty sure I'll be.
24:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm kind of shocked with yeah, I, I didn't like either team in the week one. I know San Jose State had a big fourth quarter, but I got to see. I mean, my numbers are screaming Air Force, right now, at three I'm betting Air Force, not comfortable with either team yet to be best bet. But yeah, that's why I agree I would have bet seven, but I'm not running the window to delaying, for you know, give me plus four and a half, give me plus four, give me plus three and a half. No way.
25:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree.
25:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, we have 604 people currently watching and only 211 likes. We need those likes numbers All right P forward progress.
25:37
Yeah, arthur, in the chat, oklahoma state minus nine and a half. This was an aggressive move. Today, seven and a half went all the way up to 10, a little bit of buyback at 10. I made it 10. So I I certainly would lean Oklahoma state my sign. I have. I did take part in that wave of money on Oklahoma state today. I again, I was waiting for seven and then away. They went at seven and a half this morning.
26:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, I'm with you. I thought they were one of the most impressive week one performance. I just watched that game. I was like man, I really would have loved to stick it to Gundy for a fall apart year. And then, watching that game versus Salt to go to state, I was like nope, they're legit. I would even go as far to say maybe Big 12 favorite Not priced that way in the market, but for my money I thought it would be hard.
26:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean I need another week. Everybody played in FCS, although they played the best FCS opponent, so I need Baylor, Utah, it's a pretty good data point. Oklahoma State, Arkansas is a good data point. Kansas State let's hope they cover against Tulane, That'll be a decent data point. I need one more data point. Remember when Kanish said Gundy might lose his job? I'll tell you who does remember? A lot of the people that are watching that day. They remind him all the time.
27:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, and some Oklahoma State guys occasionally dig it up. That clip, that one, and God, there's another. What did I say? That was so fucking stupid that people dig up sometimes I think it's. Oh, it's the Dan Campbell, my own lines brethren the dan campbell hiring video. It was texas, not even lions fans. Texas a&m fans dig that up sometimes. That, uh, the dan campbell was a disaster.
27:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Now he's like now he's gonna be in hollywood soon after that commercial. Yeah, jason in the chat need a michigan weather report from joey k. Gonna be windy under 42 and a half. I think you're late to the party on the other yeah, you're too.
27:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're too late, it'll be a little windy, but, um, not not anything crazy. So, uh, and listen, I mean, oh, did you expect michigan to throw it downfield anyway, if the wind doesn't matter, when all you throw is a five yard out and a swing pass? So, uh, yeah, I think you just just missed the steam on that one.
28:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like missed again plus 7.5.
28:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that I can't chase the total now, but yeah, I would expect lower scoring absolutely.
28:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Eat that in the chat. Thoughts on Oklahoma minus 27.5, home to Houston. I bet this number earlier this week. Houston's bad, really bad, but Oklahoma's plus six in turnovers and I am not hearing good practice reports from Jackson Arnold so far this fall, so I am. I'm not betting it. I bet the under, and a long time ago, in a galaxy far away. But that no bad at the at either number right now.
28:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm with you. I mean it was, listen, we got our Oklahoma cover versus temple, so I don't want to, you know, trap, but yeah, that was one of those that get. The final score is not indicative of how ugly it was for Oklahoma on offense at times in that game, and even though our man, dion Burke, scored a bunch of times, they weren't able to get him that much. They were having to find other ways to get the ball in his hands. Yeah, jackson Arnold, mikey V, who's usually watching here I think I saw it like somebody better pay up for a real quarterback if that's going to be the problem. We'll see this week. Though If he looks rough again against another lower-tier opponent, then it might be a little panic and still water.
29:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I need some better. Yeah, we'll see. That's funny, mike in the chat. I'm telling you that was told to me he didn't look good against Temple. Temple's bad Howdy in the chat. Thoughts on South Carolina. Kentucky under steam this week. It's Raz Current numbers. I would lean over Kentucky's going to play Temple. I don't think the market's fully grasped that Kentucky game last week. That was played 35 minutes. That's it against Southern Miss, that's all. It was played 35 minutes last week so I don't know if the market's got that one fully priced accordingly. So I would lean over at the current numbers after it got tanked down three points. Have you done anything in that game?
30:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, listen, I agreed with the original move. I thought South Carolina's offense was a woof it was bad. It wasf. But I agree, like, I think, kentucky. I kind of liked the Kentucky side and we would lean that the other way in the total now that it's steamed down, so agree.
30:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We've got a super chat. Uh, DDH three.
30:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
How do I?
30:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
can't find a button on the mobile app. Uh, liking a lot of big dogs this week. Thoughts on zips and western michigan. Duquesne outright lock it in zach. Who the hell is duquesne playing boston college? Yeah, they're playing boston college. I don't like that. Uh, and that big bc offense line to lean on them.
30:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, zips are you on the I? I gotta be honest with you, I'm kind of leaning the other way on that zips game zach, do you know how uh on on the phone how they become a member?
31:08 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
yes I'm checking this right now.
31:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh my god, yeah sorry, I mean I'm so I I don't know, I'm not, I got to, I bazola and I can have a board meeting after today. I tell you what? Yeah, there's gonna be some shake up here in the uh, in the offices of the hammer today after, after this kind of performance. You can't charge. You can't do it on mobile.
31:33 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I don't know if you can do it on mobile first of all, you can't.
31:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I feel like that's a youtube you can subscribe, I don't know, I'm on it right now look at that I.
31:48 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I don't see any option to join here. I'm not gonna lie. Oh my god, what is going on? We cannot get it together I mean the, the light.
31:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know that Trump meme turn them off the brights are too bright. So why get in there?
32:04 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I'll send a message in the chat, if I can figure it out.
32:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He only paid $5 to get the question answered and we can't even do that. What good are we? Might as well refund him. We're already writing refunds on week two. Do you like Akron or Western Michigan this week? We're already writing refunds on week two, no, do you?
32:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
like Akron or Western Michigan this week I'm kind of on the other side of the Akron game.
32:25 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I would agree.
32:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Western Ohio State.
32:29 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I don't like them.
32:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Buckeyes you a Buckeye. I don't like the Buckeyes.
32:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I rewatched that game. No, I don't like the Hawks. I rewatched that game. I'm not. No, I don't like. I mean, they did pull an all-out effort last week against Wisconsin. Can you keep doing it? I don't know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, not a great spot. I bet Rutgers. I did not bet the Western Michigan-Ohio.
32:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
State game.
32:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Keep it rolling here. Jason, in the chat, fiu starting. Oh, mr Muscles, washington Gave out Washington. I agree with that move. Just if that one's on the move, I agree with that one. Raps is on Eastern Michigan, so just the tout. Wars continue this year.
33:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It just continues, right that? One, I mean that one touched what 27 and a half 28 for a minute there.
33:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Crazy. It's all different numbers, so we'll see. You know, I agree with mr mr muscles there. Hopefully he loses tonight and then we can win that one together tomorrow. Jason in the chat fiu, starting linebacker, team captain, retired this week after one game, cause for concern. Uh well, that's good news for us because we like central michigan on this show I'm.
33:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are you a little surprised that this is still I mean, yeah, there's buyback I, I didn't uh tout service might uh jump in.
33:47
So that's all you need to know, folks yeah, I listen, I, I, this is one of those that usually I'm. I am surprised that this isn't sitting around a touchdown. Um, I'll just leave it at that. So I thought, um, again, fc, lower tier FCS team. But I, I thought the Central Michigan offense will be and I don't. I just um, fiu is one of those programs that really has to scrap it together. They probably should be an FCS team. No, I know, at Pitbull Arena it might be a little odd that might be lit.
34:26
It might be Maybe the HFA is like LSU night game now, but no, I like Central.
34:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree. Recreational player is Texas Tech. Under 7.5 wins plus 120, a good or great bet? I'll do you one further. That's an awesome bet, awesome bet. That's all I got to say there. He probably is not going to?
34:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Was that like a preseason bet?
34:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, I don't know how that's still there, but he's not willing to for obvious reasons. But I would bet that now I can just tell you that, because I'm sure there's people looking. Recreational player, that's not a recreational bet. I'll put it. Put it that way okay, uh I have it at six right now currently joe boat too early to fade.
35:12
Georgia tech. Syracuse a play at plus three. I think that the macro, the macro level, is Georgia Tech. All that upgrade that we did to their power rating for the Florida State win doesn't look so good now when Boston College beat them by far worse. So if I had to play it I guess I'd lean Syracuse plus three. Although I watched the Syracuse-Ohio game this morning, I'm not impressed with Syracuse, so maybe over is the best play there. Syracuse-ohio game this morning.
35:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm not impressed with Syracuse.
35:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So maybe over is the best play there.
35:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, man, I never pulled the trigger on that. I really thought when it was getting to three there was some three and a half for a minute. I just never pulled the trigger.
35:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, two and a half.
35:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I wouldn't, and pull the trigger by that. I mean on Syracuse, not Georgia Tech. I agree with you that it may be that we got a little excited about the Yellow Jackets early, but it would be Syracuse, not a two and a half, though it would be a lean Syracuse for me, but I have not fired on it yet.
36:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Lean over for me, charles, in the chat. Happy Friday boys. Any market moves you noticed this week that have interested you on macro terms, any teams that seem to be popular or too early to tell these things? It's a good question. I don't know yet. Uh, markets different than even last year. Have you seen anything like the market absolutely hates the team I.
36:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I haven't drawn any conclusions yet on that you know I mean, like you said, tough after just two weeks, especially since some teams haven't even played. You know an fbs team yet, so um nothing on a macro level that I've drawn any you know significant conclusions from um I'm looking but I mean there seems to be kind of a you know, you get your Monday Tuesday routine with a lot of the different services usually a quieter Wednesday, thursday and then Friday.
37:05
Again. It picks back up once the limits really get up and we'll see some Saturday. I mean there's been some aggressive, a couple of aggressive. At least week one had a couple aggressive Saturday moves. We'll see if that continues into tomorrow.
37:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I just the battles I think are the macro. I mean one service will release one, it'll move a point or a half.
37:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no great point.
37:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And we'll come back. And we're just right back to where we began. So, my goodness, I'll tell you where we're not right, where we began. How about 630 viewers? Where you're not right where we began. How about 630 viewers?
37:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Breaking records, that's a record Every week Offer this show for the network. The network record every single week.
37:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This is 1990 SportsCenter. It's a perspective, so that's what we're just carrying the flag here. So thank you to those that are watching live.
37:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Putting food in Moreto's kid's mouth.
37:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I know Unbelievable, not that live Putting food in Moreto's kid's mouth. I know Unbelievable, not that I need more food in my fat mouth, but Trevor in the chat thoughts on McCall's passing yards, I think Nico could light it up. Force NC State to air raid late in the game. What's you saying the whole franchise say this week.
38:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what? That is not one that uh have bet. Yeah, let me actually see, zach, you got that. I don't know if that, I know we're putting them in a little state tennessee yeah, nc state, tennessee, I haven't.
38:27
even this is one that uh haven't even looked at here in the last few days. I, I would think they would uh, uh, two, 40 now, now, not for me. Um, I hear what you're saying, if they get down, but you're really dependent on game script there. Uh, cause to me. On the other side of things, I would think NC state would want to do a little bit more of the McCall coastal offense. We're going to run some things um, and maybe take a little bit more time off, um, as opposed to what you're getting with such an explosive Tennessee offense. That's also another one where the market's kept buying Tennessee all week without much resistance One of those ones that hasn't had much resistance, so it'd be a pass for me. On the McCall prop.
39:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What do you think about the game? Another bad on the market. One way, nothing but Tennessee all week. And then we finally saw the buyback today at 10.
39:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I make sense to me. I was again. This is one that I I don't want to take overreact to one game too much, but NC state I got to see more this week so I agree with the original play and I thought Tennessee both teams was high on coming to the season. Will I still be there on NC state after this week?
39:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know so, but um, I regret that circle opened uh six and some of the other, even other places, had even lower than that. Yeah, so that stinks. Uh, nine is where I made it, so I'm past right now. I do lean over if you had to bet it right now at the current numbers. Uh, charles, in the chat, baylor utah, I like baylor anything above two touchdowns. That's part of the old tout service yeah, that was the early week.
40:10
Bp, uh, play there and now there was again their buyback. You know, release 17 goes down to 14. Some people are willing to lay 14. There's now some 15, 15 and a half in the market. Uh, anything above 14 is good to go for me. So, yeah, that's right.
40:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would concur. That would be the lean on my as well. Um, just think it kind of plays into Baylor a little bit Uh, not being able to, utah not running. I would be surprised if they lost. You know, baylor lost this game by three-plus scores.
40:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't think you're going to get optimal Utah this early in the season. Optimal offense would be them running Cam Rising. They're not going to do it, so you're not getting them at full strength, in my opinion, charles, also in the chat Dilfer versus U ulm uh, we saw a little bit of ulm money, didn't we?
41:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, tailgate was uh, uh, now that was that. Now that wasn't till it was, he was on. Uh the other, uh, lafayette there was kind of. Saw um ul monroe I will say yeah, looked a little bit more functional versus jackson state than I would thought. With that said, that number's thin for me.
41:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I did bet UAB. I think FanDuel had an eight. So thank you, fanduel. Earlier this week, I think that was Love that. There is an interesting angle here. Vincent, the new coach at ULM, was fired after one year at UAB. Remember he was the interim coach for Bill Clark. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, went to a bowl game. They fired him, so he'll probably have an ax to grind, so I'm not wild about the game right now with the current numbers. Rw fan talking. Clemson App State. Total has been a fight in the market. There's so many fights in the market right now. It's unbelievable, unbelievable. Uh, have you done anything with the total?
41:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
we were talking about the side earlier early early in the week, played under um and I go, no, this one's kind of taking some, some back and forth there, um, I think you know when it. Well, I gotta even see what, uh, the history of this was, because I know it's it's kind of right about. I think I played some 52 and a half there and it's it's sitting about there. I would lean towards the under, where that at currently Speaker 1 0 Bert brownies.
42:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Good day fellas. Give a few thoughts on the Eastern Michigan Washington game. Good luck this weekend. Another bad guess what? No broken record. Another battle in the market. Early money on Washington buyback from Raz on Eastern Michigan. As we're're doing the show. Mr Muscles gave out Washington, I bet Washington earlier in the week, so I'm hoping for that. But Eastern Michigan now. I think it's 29 and I'm not a trends guy, but this has been going on for a decade now. I think you're 29 and 8. Uh, last 37 times they've been a road underdog against the spread that that event, they, he's uh.
42:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I always do the kirk snyder comparison, uh, for coaches that like somehow just no matter what, no matter who's on the team or who, chris creighton is, uh, is one of those that just seems to overperform year after year his talent level. With that said, yeah, it was one of those. Like it got to 24. That's a buy point. On Washington 28, on Eastern Michigan, um, I'd still lean Washington at the current with you.
43:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jacob in the chat. Is there any hope for Wisconsin this season? I don't think so.
43:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think so either. It's not. And you, zach, get the TikTok camera ready, clip it. Luke Fickle Hot seat after this season. Only one more year left to end Camp Randall, baby, because the new offense isn't working and I don't think Fickle was really that great I'll give you, you know, listen. People want to give him the flowers for what he did at Cincinnati. I don't think it's working in the Big Ten.
44:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I and give him the flowers for what he did at Cincinnati. I don't think it's working in the Big Ten. I don't think it's working at Wisconsin. Yeah, their season. I actually think they're going to not have an easy way tomorrow and then next week the Crimson Tide will roll into town. So no, I would not have went air raid. That was a bad, bad, bad decision by Fickle. I would have just recruited better, found a better quarterback than what Wisconsin had. But that was not a broken machine there. No, recruit big players, just recruit a little bit better skill, including quarterback. I mean, come on, the program had been the six Rose Bowl games in 30 years, playing a certain style that fits. That fits them geographically. Yeah, at least I cannot believe he did that. Anthony roman thoughts on boise state and uva. Thanks boys. Uh, I like virginia of the two, I like virginia more than I do, uh, boise um, yeah, I, I would again.
44:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's one that I've actually played some, uh, virginia there. So that's when I have to put the money where the mouth is on that one. Um, yeah, the boys of oregon, we talked about a little bit. It kind of a fight between 18 and 21 there. Um, nothing too keen for me on that one, where it's at we got another big time super chat here from adam 999.
45:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I came here for a full breakdown of Eagles Packers boycotting forward progress until hit the books builds a healthy hammer, follower lead. Have you done anything with tonight's game?
45:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I am on dump, dump, dump, dump, dump. I'm on some pack baby.
45:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Really.
45:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Packers two and a half little, little little Packers money line. So I interesting, I like some head to head.
45:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll lay it with the Eagles.
45:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are we going head to head?
45:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we'll go ahead, put it on the tracker baby.
45:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I had to add that two and a half.
45:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Two and a half Jeez, I mean I'm taking. All right, that's fine.
45:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's fine, I'm giving you the listen little, even a little minus 108, there All right, Fine, oh yeah, Out of the goodness of your heart.
46:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think it's one of the All right Yep Head to head Boom. So I got something to root for besides BYU Little, one of our original 65 followers. The tailgate more keep care about Kanisha's personal life, health stack and workout plan than about college football Shows what they think about his college football knowledge.
46:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Hey baby, you come to hit the books for college football and you get a little NFL and a little bit of Joey Glow Up. So, hey, nothing wrong with that.
46:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Bad guy. Any thoughts on the Indiana spread tonight? Got it at 42. I made it 45, total 55, and that's where we're at. It's funny, I don't even tell anybody stuff. Sometimes I don't even want to bet it, I just want to see what the market does without any influence whatsoever, without anybody telling anybody, and it's right where I like that early in the season to see you know if I'm in line with the market. But I don't see any value. Did you do anything with this game?
47:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Some of the guys I worked with. I bet some Indiana small at, like you know, 42, 43, nothing big, though I know I did see Indiana's best player on offense. None of them is out for tonight, so that notification came across since we've been on, so it would be a small. Those current numbers would be leaning to the under there 54.5. That's it All right.
47:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Ryan in the chat Colorado, Nebraska, over. Are we firing on this baby? There's been some under money.
47:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There has been some under money. I still like the over.
47:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, where are we at? Can you get a 55 and a half? 55 is a relatively key number in totals you want to go over.
47:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah.
47:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that'd be fun, let's go over. Uh, I question Nebraska's ability to defend in space against that passing attack for Colorado. I question Colorado's ability to defend anything.
48:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Colorado defended seven on 17.
48:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, I think the public gets involved tomorrow and they bet over just saying so, uh, let's go ahead and go over 55 and a half best bet you know what I?
48:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I strongly agree that I think you will see over money tomorrow and we've, like this is kind of the bottom out for that total do we continue to see colorado money tomorrow is the question interesting. I don't know, I don't have a good, I don't have a good fee. I don't have a strong take on that either way.
48:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I did not notice this, so shame on me, but apparently FanDuel opened some FCS games yesterday. I didn't even look.
48:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It depends on the state you're in.
48:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Okay.
48:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Because some states don't have them.
48:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, idaho Wyoming opened four and a half, got bumped to seven and a half. Was that me? Nope, it was not me. That's all I'm willing to say about that matchup right now. Dylan in the chat. Maybe if the wind is at Orgy's back he won't skip that five-yard hitch like last week Oof.
49:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Listen, you're not. I think warren's your quarterback for better or worse, because 26 pass attempts in two last week says all you need to say there. Um orgy, he's just going to be a bit gadget player type, uh and uh, I mean that throw kind of says it all. They have pictures worth a video worth a thousand words right there. If that's what you're doing on that play, then you can't be the starting quarterback 650 viewers Another record.
49:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They keep rolling in 600. They're waiting for that.
49:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Jackie, her flowers are our single, our greatest single blue female viewer asking that question. She's staying.
49:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
She's staying. She's staying for that glow up.
49:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know I know and Jackie, cousin of Nick, comes in there coming in with us. We appreciate her continued service here and watching our beloved Hit the Books family.
50:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Moneyline Parlay coming up in just 10 minutes. That's how you do it. Tease Longtime pod listener from Garrett First live stream Thoughts on Sam Houston plus 21 and a half Another battle in the market here. Raz likes Sam Houston, dr Bob and BP like Central Florida, I like Central Florida.
50:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what I think you mentioned on Mondayay show that, like when central florida gets the chance to bury somebody, I think you're laying three touchdowns it really is a question of how improved do you think sam houston is?
50:46
um, and I don't have a great feel for that. They did look better last week. But enough to go into the bounce house and stick with UCF, um, because I mean they're an all-time. This is, like you know, the the Florida Lane Kiffin's here of like, when it's you know 46 to 10, or going you know two second plays and trying to make it you know 70. So, um, y'all, I always factor that in in UCF games. I would kind of lean your way as well, um, but not probably not a strong take. I gotta you know what, I gotta get your opinion. I gotta jump in because there's a game around the same number where you at on liberty, new mexico state, because, uh, at the current number, I'd bet over 54, even though the entire world's on the under.
51:34
I'm leaning toward listen, and this is from a guy who was, you know, looking up real estate in Las Cruces last year, you know, going down there to spend the winter. I like Liberty in this game and I would be surprised here if they didn't take out the hammer here on New Mexico State, who I think is significantly, significantly worse than last year and should have lost to CBO last week.
52:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Zach, that Florida State, bc and Florida Stateida state upcoming. Yet the question you want to put that one up. I don't see that. Maybe I'm blind, I don't know. Maybe I need a new set of glasses. I don't see that. Oh, dt, plus the points, guys you have to talk about this. Florida state minus five versus memphis no money line yet, unfortunately, that line was two and a half. On Tuesday night I got DM'd and texted that one. Of course nobody everyone asked my opinion on it, but nobody, you know, threw old BP a bone. Funny how that works. It was short. So there it is, three and a half. It's still short. What's your thoughts?
52:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It was 17 prior to the season yeah, um, I bet, I mean, is florida state two tds worse than we thought nah? You're downgrading them, two touchdowns I mean I think they're at least 10 points worse than I thought I hear you, I think I think they reset after the bye. That's not an advocate.
53:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's a good point, because I think Mike Norvell is a great coach. We'll find out, though, because we'll see the rest of the season I've been parading him around as a great coach.
53:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Drop that baby Coach Prime might be coaching Florida State next year.
53:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I've been parading him around as a great coach, but I mean, if they have a losing season, then I will rebuke those thoughts, I will take them back, because that would be three losing seasons in five years. Basically, he's a losing coach at Florida State without Jordan Travis.
53:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, did you. I didn't hear you cut out for a second. Did you like Liberty or no?
53:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh no, I did cut out for a side. Did you like liberty or no? Oh no, I did, no, no, I'm asking you, did you? Oh, no, no, no, no I like the under.
54:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm sorry all right.
54:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Why you want to give it out no, I mean not that there's, there's.
54:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I again don't want to give other better price of it. I just that's a joey. Oh, we'll call it a joey k. Uh, special there. Uh, that I like liberty, um, and anything under 23 for that one.
54:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think what's advantageous for you, new mexico state, was running tempo like super fast tempo, and when you're up against an opponent that's far superior to you, you don't want to run tempo. So, uh, that would be to your advantage. Ryan in the chat, texas state, utsa Honestly, this might be one of the more important.
54:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is big time, you know like a big time with potential playoff implications this early.
54:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I would not. I would not bet it at the current numbers.
54:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I have nothing on this game either. I have no bet on this game side, or total or prop I had it, but I mean again, numbers far away plus three and a half.
55:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I took on UTSA. It doesn't matter, inconsequential to the current line. So I basically made it one in 61. So there it is, casey in the chat. We're going to fly through these for five, six more minutes and get to the Moneyline Parlay and any other best bets that we have Any thoughts on? Oregon State, san Diego State or Arizona State, mississippi State? I, like Oregon State, gave that out in the tout service. It's up. That's one where the markets agreed with me, at least. I think I see some fives popping now. My goodness, market hates old BP, they say. Say hey, bps, he's over the hill, he sucks, he can't win. Uh, so we'll see where that is at. But I, I would lay even five and a half there. What?
55:44 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
what's your thought?
55:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, there's nothing, I'm not there yet. I, that was one where raz gave out. Arizona state got up to like six and a half. Another service came back on mississippi state and now the line keeps going down, and, down, and down. I will say this If it comes down to four, I would prefer to lay with ASU.
56:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm with Liz, I'm with you on the Oregon state. I don't have a strong take on the ASU Mississippi state game. I do think Oregon state's the right side and San Diego state needed a lot to get going last week and a lot of the needed a lot to get going last week and a lot of things. I'm not sure that offense is going to the Sean Lewis God love him man. There were some times at Kent State and even where, if it's not rolling right, you can get in a big hole running that offense and I'm not sure they have the personnel to do it against an Oregon State team that I still think is pretty competitive.
56:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, I'm with you. I think they just run over on Morgan State. That's what they did last week. They had 360 yards rushing. I think that's repeatable against smaller competition. Will in chat, will Navy's new offense be enough to cover versus Temple? That's a game I didn't bet, sider total.
56:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Game of the week.
56:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I didn't bet Sider total there. I do like the other one who likes the over.
56:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh does he? I'll be rooting for the under. Give me something to root for. I'll be rooting for the under Blue Horse likes the over. Where are you at on Army FAU?
57:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Mr Muscles likes FAU. Three is the one where I made it, so it's a lay two and a half. Take three and a half it, Uh. Three is the one where I made it.
57:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So it's a late two and a half.
57:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Take three and a half, it's three pass.
57:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where are you at? I'm a. I played some troops there. I like it Anything.
57:23
I had a two and a half, though over three, uh was uh, and maybe, uh, maybe a sprinkle of money line on that one. We'll see here in a minute. But uh, I, I don't't, I I'm surprised. I thought florida, atlantic, I don't think their offense can function like. I just don't think and again, this is a michigan state defense that uh is not exactly filled with a bunch of talent um, I just don't see how the offense can function against against anybody, uh, and I think army will do enough on offense charles, unfortunately I'm not going to talk about the fCS games yet I will be.
57:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I do plan on being involved in both of those games involving Arizona and Fresno and their FCS competition. I will put it that way I am. I would talk about them if I didn't think there was a lot of value. The fact that I'm not talking about them means I think there's value.
58:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Live show halftime tomorrow, Texas, Michigan. If we've already gotten them, maybe we can touch on them then.
58:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're the pro, I'm the amateur. Great tease. Yes, indeed, we are doing halftime Texas Michigan, tomorrow the big noon kickoff. So at halftime.
58:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
If it's 28-0 Texas, then you might be solo. That's fine.
58:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I will talk FCS tomorrow on that halftime. If there's anything still left on the board, there should be Cause. Now it looks like they're going to be typical and not post anything, especially those FCS versus FCS games. I'll be late to the party, so that will be a show to watch. I will give out at least an FCS play or two or three. We'll see what the board's looking like, but tune in for that. If three, we'll see what the board's looking like, but tune in for that if you want fcs info. Trip in the chat. Major large bet on south carolina under five and a half minus 146 at fan duel, agree or disagree? I agree. Where are the wins?
59:04
that was supposed to be one of their easiest games, uh, yeah that I mean they have akron and wofford but other than than that I mean, I got a big dog, I guess at Vanderbilt. But that game is way tougher now.
59:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So, that's a great, that's a great point. Yeah, Sellers look rough. It was like it looked like if we just played orgy, like if you're like oh this guy we're going to play this guy. He's really athletic, but he can't throw a lick. You know, I don't know, I don't. Oh, it's right there. So, yeah, I would agree with that play.
59:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, put in perspective, if you didn't look at that play-by-play, old Dominion turned it over twice inside their own 10-yard line to set up two scoring drives, touchdowns for South Carolina totaling nine yards, and then, on first and goal at the nine, old Dominion threw an interception. So I mean Old Dominion should have won the game. Chosen Sports NC State is live. I don't think so, what do you say? I mean before the season Everybody's live.
01:00:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't want to again no one overreact to one game Before the season. I would have said, yes, Hard, looking at both those results and feeling great about that.
01:00:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They're live, though. Do you do anything tonight? In the other games? How to win is asking, besides BYU.
01:00:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean again, it was around for a while, but I do have some Duke plus three Would actually again. This is disgusting but would kind of lean over in that one at the current number as well. Um, oh no I when it's, yeah, when it's blue horseshoe likes the over oh, he does too. Yeah, loves the over, I like the under, even at even at current no, no, okay number in a galaxy far away.
01:00:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
that I got. We'll see what happens tonight. Hopefully it's good weather so you can see the lakeshore there, at least for the opening quarter. Idaho Wyoming thoughts. Check the injury report. That's what I can give you, jeff Rappaport, south Dakota, viable at 16. Where are these numbers at? I'm not even seeing that.
01:01:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where's that at that one's? I don't even see it around, so nothing turned up. Yeah, maybe we'll hit you tomorrow.
01:01:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jeff, I will answer tomorrow. I was just looking to see, for obvious reasons, ohio over. I don't looking to see, for obvious reasons, ohio over. I don't see any defense being played. Love Ohio, south Alabama over, love it. Just both teams look like dead nut over teams to me. Both offenses better than expected, both defenses worse than expected and they took it off. They didn't even put it on. They said we're scared. We know the top service. We know Raz gave out over on this game. We know BP gave out over on this game.
01:01:58
I just did a podcast before the show. I gave out the over and they said we're scared. We love FanDuel, but they're scared. That should tell you everything that you should know there, that they took it down. We love you. Fanduel 660 viewers. Hopefully one of them is not the bosses at FanDuel, because I'll be like you cannot say that. Whatever, I'm going to say the truth. So when I say that I love FanDuel, then people will know that I do, but I'm going to criticize when I criticize. So come on, we keep it real. Matt, virginia, wake Forest, total. Any interest in the over? I did bet the over early in the week, but not at the current number.
01:02:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Same feelings there. For me it was an early mover. I think it's.
01:02:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A lot of services on that one, charles, in the chat. We're wrapping this up here quickly. Bama game of the year minus 9.5 versus Wisconsin is approaching the famous Texas A&M levels of Brad, of brad clv one. No, nothing approaches that one. That was, uh, lsu texas a&m. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two years ago I had 24 and a half points and that idiot that f had brian kelly after scoring a touchdown. I, I had lsu plus 14 and a half. They closed a 10 point favorite. Lsu scored a touchdown. I I had lsu plus 14 and a half. They closed a 10-point favorite. Lsu scored a touchdown to go down 15 with a minute left. He goes for two and misses and loses by 15. I hate that guy. Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
01:03:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Brian kelly that, that really that's the worst clv game I've ever had.
01:03:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just the way not only losing it, but yeah but the way it was lost. Final one from Charles. Speaking of fickle, give me this high-flying Narduzzi offense. That was a positive and we did see. I'll tell you that is a market takeaway. I think the market's on top of them now as far as their offense.
01:03:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm a little surprised at the Cincy buyback.
01:03:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I would bet three. I need three to bet. Okay, remember, corleone might play, that might be part of it. Their best defensive player, um, yeah, that might be part of it. Uh, for that, uh, over got smashed, yeah, so I, I, if this one goes high, goes over even this total, then you're going to see money coming in on Pittsburgh totals over for the next week or two. Cameron Parker, awod, is the worst quarterback I've ever seen. He's a New Mexico State quarterback. Their entire quarterback play was horrific. You want to give that out? You want to lay it with Liberty.
01:04:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I just there's just a lot, lot like, there's like a point better, some uh like so okay, fair enough.
01:04:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fair enough. A couple more. North Carolina's quarterback Harold under 198 and a half passing yards. What say you? What? Where's, where's Joey props?
01:04:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
at today. No, I, you know what, joe, a cold start to the season and then joey props didn't do. Uh, uh, a little check here before the. Uh, I, I would lean that way, though, with that, because I don't know if they yeah, you know what I'm listen uh, is it down to 190 now? Because I, if you've got that, yeah, I agree with, I agree with your play there. I'll put it like that. I think it's a little number there in FanDuel. Yeah, if you've got around 200 or about that, yeah, I would lean that way as well. You know what, weston, I'll give you a, put it in Zach, we'll give Weston the credit for it, because I don't know if he I want to say they're, they're going to be might even doing a little QB rotation there as well. Checking out the other options.
01:05:44
So, I think they're just going to run, like just run and run and run on Charlotte. So yeah, I would. I actually Weston good find there. I'll give you the credit for it. If it loses, though, I'll roast you.
01:06:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that's classic, tout one-on-one. Yeah, we're off to a slow start. So what we'll do is we'll redo, we'll refine the model. It's not coming out.
01:06:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I've been like, yeah, three star lean.
01:06:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fair enough, we will give you some here's the lab. Here's some leans, you know, and they're not official plays. I'll send in the chat. Mike right, or 34 and a half rushing yards. There's another prop for tonight, Northwestern quarterback.
01:06:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Here's the problem. Duke's defense is a tackle for loss machine and the sacks come off your rushing yardage in college, so that would keep me away. I again I know he'll be a big part of the the game plan there's rushing it. I just I don't really trust this northwestern offense. Uh, I kind of like what duke has on defense. I'm obviously on du Duke on the game, so it would be a pass for me there.
01:06:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's it. Let's get to the Moneyline Parlay and any other remaining best bets that we have Without further ado. Pull it up, baby.
01:07:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Three or four left and you know what God I've been so kicking myself. We should have started If I left a few off the chain. Got too greedy with Yukon last week. But three or four to start the season. Let's go for a bullet object. So we're going at the. We tease the Pittsburgh baby. You can even get a little bit better price. I think we're screenshotting it from earlier. But hit money line, think they're live.
01:07:30
Or Cincinnati, high variance, high scoring game going with the Cy Hawk, me and BP. Little head-to-head here, um, but I think Iowa State's as Joey I'm gonna go down fighting firing bullets here. Uh, fading this Iowa team. So I'm on Iowa State in the game, like Iowa State in the money line. Um. Tulsa was another one, a game we didn't actually touch on there because I I was a little shocked at the Arkansas State move. I think I know who did that and Arkansas State should be a little healthier this week. But again, massive variance game, super high, total. Think it'll be up and down both ways. Tulsa's offense looks much improved. So I think that's one Like any time you can get a you know that of total, uh, with the game that I think will be score for score there, like putting the plus 260 in there. And you hear me, you saw your heart, you heard me tease it. Army money line troops um, don't think florida atlantic's very good, think army will give them a time. So there is our fan duel underdog Moneyline round robin of the week.
01:08:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A little over 35 to 1. 35 to 1.
01:08:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Let's bring them all home and you know what FanDuel might not they might be, you know, filing for Chapter 11 after that one, after this baby hits. But yeah, I like that's the under the underlying money, don't underdog money line ron robin for the week.
01:08:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I want to talk about that. Tulsa, arkansas state, whoever who was, you don't have to say their name, but I want to bet tulsa, tell me I'm wrong.
01:09:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like, listen, there was three, I'll give you a clue three letters, um, but they I I think there was some arkansas state linemen out last week, uh, if I'm understood, and so the thought was that maybe they're back this week. Um, regardless, I like tulsa at anything over a touchdown best bet tulsa plus eight and a half I like it. I like it. I think they're live in the game.
01:09:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Like them over I agree, I think they're live too. Arkansas state was really bad last week on a purple. And then I always go back to this change one play in the game Like them over. I agree, I think they're live to. Arkansas state was really bad last week on a purple. And then I always go back to this change One play in the game. They got a very fortunate call at the end of the game to give them a touchdown, to give them the win. They lose that game. What's this line? I bet it isn't. I bet it's less than seven one play.
01:09:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Joey Greedy's got to get your take on USC Utah State.
01:09:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Anything there. I don't like Utah State this year at all.
01:09:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Me neither. I kind of think this should be like 31.
01:10:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh wow, I don't like the spot for SC though.
01:10:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, it is definitely a come down spot. I just think Utah State's like terrible, like legitimately, like maybe borderline. We said it in the summer. If you were listening to us, like if your plan for the year was Spencer Petras who's not hurt it was like we're going to get bring him out of retirement from Iowa to be our starting quarterback. That I think they're. I think I think they get smashed and USC defense is significantly improved. So to me, I think this is like 56-17.
01:10:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There you go. Any other things that we left off?
01:10:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think we hit Zach recap the best bets.
01:10:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let me see if there is something.
01:10:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, zach might as well recap them while you're still on the payroll. After today, I don't know how long it's going to be, but keep it rolling.
01:11:02 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
All right, boys, here we go. We've got a huge, huge list of stuff that we're looking for this weekend. So Kansas State, minus 9.5, was given before. Iowa state, plus three, was from earlier. Uh, northern illinois was from monday. Show, if we're looking for today, we went. Auburn, minus 12 and a half. Uh, connor harrell, harrell, under 190 and a half. Passing yards, minus 114 there. Central Michigan, minus five and a half, was from Monday as well, and Tulsa, plus eight and a half.
01:11:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We have a huge portfolio. Here we were active.
01:11:46 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Washington we have Colorado, nebraska, over 55 and a half and Wazoo money money line minus one. 11 there. That is all of the bets for today Big portfolio.
01:11:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we don't have to add anything to that. That looks good and if you want some more, we have some strong opinions on a few other games that you know. I think that's enough. Do you want to add any more to the portfolio?
01:12:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I think that's a no good portfolio for the week and hey, let's keep it rolling into tomorrow.
01:12:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, looking forward to it, I'll be rooting for the Cougars tonight, the Cougars that are around condition, also the ones down there in Dallas, texas BYU.
01:12:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know it. Yay, you got any, since we're taking over the network you got any NFL for the weekend?
01:12:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I kind of like you could tell me if I'm off. I kind of like jacksonville, uh, plus three and a half yep uh, let me think there's quite a bit. I love the nfl, so, uh, let's run them down, forget it. I mean, since we're taking over the network, nobody's turning in to watch hitman give out losing. I mean 15th grade, so, uh, let's see what we got. I, I did go along with hitman on the minnesota money line.
01:13:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, hitman hitman and mr muscles with a big head-to-head on uh carolina saints I'm more with hitman on that one.
01:13:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, what's with all this cincinnati's banged up?
01:13:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, higgins is doubtful and jamar chase is questionable if he doesn't get his contract done I, I obviously wong teaser cincinnati's one leg. The other leg for me would be uh, make sure chase plays, though if I'm gonna do that, I I wouldn't be long in that boy until, uh, I get the the confirm that chase signs that contract, otherwise you're playing wide receiver for the bangles I haven't had it likes the bucks likes the bucks that's what he said bucks lock oh, I'm not there yet.
01:13:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, barry horse man, we got a lot. We got the people from all over. Uh, yeah, I don't know. I haven't met that game, have you? I heard there's a battle in the market on the total I have not bet that game yet um I best bet I. We need your lions take. I mean, come on, we got to go back to the form joey k was on some, uh, some line shocker.
01:14:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Bet the lions early, uh. A group did give it out, though, and moved it to four, four and a half um. To be honest, flat four. You could still get me on some lines at four um overtook money yesterday too.
01:14:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And that one, uh, I agree, detroit's, I got greedy. I was sitting at three and a half. I'm like is a three gonna pop? Never did I late to the party. I'll give you one that if it pops I'll go anti-hit man, give me the cowboys. Uh, I, I don't like watson about them cowboys.
01:14:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You don't want anything with the cowboys, even at three uh, I mean I would, I would be with you at three. I don't think you'll see a three, but I would be.
01:14:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree with you at three all right, I got nothing else, you got anything else?
01:15:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, that was good. That was new record setting stream.
01:15:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, good I gave out a record setting number of bats yeah, like a big portfolio for the weekend yeah, we do all right.
01:15:16
Well, that'll do it for the man, the myth, the legend himself joey knish, producer and landscaper extraordinaire, zach phillips. Thank you to all the questions, concerns in the chat and comments. We got 350 likes, over 660 viewers, new records here, not only for this show but for the Hammer Network. We appreciate you guys. We appreciate our sponsor, fanduel. We'll be back tomorrow, not Monday. Tomorrow halftime, texas, michigan, we'll give you thoughts on the second half. We'll give you FCS thoughts. We'll give you thoughts on the Saturday night card. So make sure you're tuned in at halftime, texas, michigan. We'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Take care.