00:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
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Or visit fanduelcom. Slash RG Call 1-888-789-7777. Or visit ccpgorg slash chat in Connecticut. Or visit mdgamblingorg in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gambling helpline maorg. Or call 800-327-5050 for 247 support. Massachusetts. Or call 1-877-8. Hope new york or text hope new york in new york. Knish, uh, three and nine is the record I counted. Zach can tell me if that's wrong, but I I got us for three and nine on saturday. 

02:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Totally unacceptable no, yeah, and you know it's funny McKenzie, owen, joey K, downside. Yeah, no, if you see the background now, I I had, I had to sell the you know the the cozy place, and uh get a new residency, detroit, after that disaster. So, uh, yeah, not a great week. Uh, got gotta, gotta take the fun. Yeah, yeah, downsize. Yeah, now I'm, you know, I'm one of those Detroit trailer parks they're asking, asking people for handouts over here. So, yeah, no, not a not a great week, of course. Um, I mean just it all summed up by the Central Michigan 20 and a half game that they should have probably, you know, lost by like 10. Uh, the Illinois hits a 60 field goal, central Michigan onside kicks towards the end of it down two touchdowns loses by 21. Woof, yep, not a great-. 

03:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh yeah, I mean I'm sure there's the clip of me saying, oh, that half point won't matter, yeah. 

03:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah yeah, we can cue that one up. So yeah, no, it was a rough one, rice. Another one Rice was over, I swear to God, 90 seconds into that game. I knew that Bet was in trouble, like I saw the Houston saw VersaWrite, watched a few plays and was like uh-oh boy. 

03:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know what's wrong with Rice this year. 

04:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know, like they had no juice and so, yeah, that one was, was a rough one. So, hey, but we're not, we're not, we're not laying down for another week, baby, we're going to get right back to it, get back in it and, hey, hopefully get back on the right side of things this week. You're going to have weeks like that in college football Just is what it is. You got to take the punches I used to take these a lot worse than I do nowadays, and that took a while but you got to get right back on the horse. You're not going to win, no matter who you are Best in the business, best to ever do it, not going to win every week You're going to have weeks like that. So, yeah, can't let it get down and go right back to the wall, to the lab whatever, and go right back to the wall, to the lab, whatever cliche you want to use. 

04:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did you know Illinois kicked a 60-yard field goal in the final play of the first half. 

04:50
Outdoor 60-yarder. Yeah, in Illinois that stadium is a wind haven. Yeah, they're in the spring, and then we couldn't even catch a break. I don't understand. I bet the South Alabama game on Thursday night. I bet the over. I faded a release after they pushed the total down. I got that bet voided. It was 87 to 10. They beat Northwestern State. You and I give out VMI and I bet VMI. That bet counted for some reason, and I'm bringing this up because both games got shortened in the second half. 

05:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So the one. 

05:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I won gets voided. The one I lose counts. I bet them at two different books. It's just that sums up the weekend for me. 

05:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, and I hear you and some people so that's a house rules one where, at FanDuel apparently, and because I bet some VMI, I bet some VMI, a number of places, um, fanduel doesn't do, they only do the 55 minutes for NFL. They have like a clause for college football if it goes 10 minutes in the fourth quarter it counts. Uh, so a lot of places just do 55 minutes straight up. So, and that's one of those, hey, you're on the wrong side of it. If we were, you know, we were on the other side of that we'd be like, oh, finally got one over on him. So, yeah, that was not. Uh, yeah, that I could tell you. That's another one. 

06:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
To sum up, all right, that's enough of that. Let's get to a new week, new day, uh, new day, baby. Fabulous one, a new member. We appreciate you. Fabulous one, uh. Rwfan23 has been a member for a while. Thoughts on Texas minus 45. You have Monroe in the tout off. 

06:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is I love when these are a lot of tout offs already. 

06:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's. That's the day and age we live in. I lean more Texas. I think there's more juice with Arch in the lineup. I laid Texas on the open 45. I think it's about right. I laid 42, but I I would prefer the texas side. Where are you on this one? 

06:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, you know what? It's gonna be a show off. Uh, not only a tout off, but but I hit the books off because, uh, I like ulm and I think part of it is. Yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, you know I love me. 

07:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Some arch baby we'll go'll go head-to-head at 44.5. 

07:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, let's go. 

07:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I had to start off to go All right head-to-head. 

07:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
But you know, I love me some Arch, but part of the Texas, I think the cap in these games where you wanted them to blow out the Colorado States and the UTSA is after yours. You're running the same offense with Arch afterward and the Arch is coming in and boy, he looks good. Baby, he's got a lot of juice. Now that's kind of about the wind. Now, if you know it's a 40-point game and Arch goes out, uh, you're on to the third stringer at that point also third stringer can play. 

07:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I watched him in the spring game he can play. 

07:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I, I listen, I'm not Texas has got the depth, but I mean to a ULM team it's been better than advertised through two weeks, and you know what A little bit of two weeks to prepare for this one. I think they'll run super, super slow tempo. Yeah, I can hear you Just kind of run it. So 45 was a little bit rich to me. 

08:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You get 45 out of your head. 

08:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You got 44 and a half well, I mean, let's if you're bad. Hey listen, 44 and a half had to head. If you're betting this and you want to shop for 45, um, I did bet some 45. 

08:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think they they run offense with arch, so but I hear you, it's a not an ideal situation. If I had to, if I, I would say you, you're probably 51 and a half, 52 against me on this, one just saying rw fan, 23 thoughts on jmu plus 10 and another tout off. I'm they call me square, I'm, I'm on the favorite on this one I jam. You did not look that they played gardner web. Now I know gardner web the next week almost beat charlotte beat. Charlotte, there's another one we're going at. 

08:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'd rather have the Now. The key thing we want to point out to people is who did they play? 

08:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They haven't done anything. I know they're off a bye week. They haven't done anything. Their team is playing for Indiana. You know what you got. I love Bob Chesney, but you don't know what you got. 

09:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Apparently you don't love Bob enough because Bob getting double digits here. 

09:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, we'll go head-to-head at 10.5 on this one. 

09:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Another head-to-head to start it off. I like it. I like it because I mean, I guess this has been a North Carolina team that they haven't had some success to start the year, but it's been all on the ground. You know, third string quarterback. Now I think Chris Dwell in you can debate how much you know better or worse he is than the other two that they've had so far. I don't like teams that don't have much of a passing offense. Trying to get you know, multiple score margin against the JMU team that again, it's not last year's team. I, they're all playing for indiana. Indiana who looks pretty damn good. Uh, you know if you're saying so, but I, I can't get to the number here, with unc getting double digits, um, so yeah, I, I, I like him anything over 10 there you go head to head. 

10:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
10 and a half charles in the chat. Any preseason number you have on florida state you have to throw out. At this point cal is the best team florida state's face to date. I don't know about that. Uh, how is fsu still laying points? They have not come close to covering a spread. I didn't bet the game did you? 

10:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
you know this is one of those catch a falling knife weeks because I saw I think our show sponsor had some early, like Cal five and a half. I think that was the opening number that I didn't see that. 

10:34
And now obviously that got that down and we're looking at, I mean, under a few, some places even, there's even a few sp sparing one one and a half. So I see out there uh two and a half at fan duel. But I guess is this, you know, is this the rock bottom of the market for florida state here, uh, I don't know yet, I don't know, and maybe the team's quit. 

11:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So I, I can't bet it, but we're. I mean I, you can only bet cal, but I I didn't bet it. I can't bet it, we're worried. I mean I, you can only bet Cal, but I I didn't bet it. 

11:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I haven't bet it either I'm. I would have a hard time passing up Florida state pick if it got there, Fair enough. 

11:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, cause I think Memphis is a little bit better than Cal, aren't they? Yeah, yeah. 

11:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

11:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah. 

11:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean you're more of a Cal truther than me, but I am a Cal truther. 

11:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I should have pushed back on you on the summer show, giving them out there under. I took advantage of that and bet over. They got a good scouting department, they got a clue. They say I say that no, probably they still got some tough games. But uh, chris in the chat, uh, ecu plus seven, jew seven and a half, middle tennessee plus 14. Oh, two games I didn't bet. Did you bet ecu's playing liberty? Liberty has not looked good. Ecu man man running tempo, but their offense sucks. No efficiency. Middle Tennessee had a bunch of yards against Western Kentucky, but again, I don't think they're nothing. Duke, I mean, could have lost outright last week. Was that their scare? Seven and a half, I mean I think you take the hook there. Where are you at on this game? 

12:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'd lean with the seven and a half there. And again, I know this is an East Carolina show, east Carolina podcast, um, but I agree it's kind of been boom or bust with Garcia, um, and just not enough, as you said, not enough efficiency on offense Liberty, I don't know. I mean, I mean with three data points, three kind of underwhelming outs there, that um, something you know at that point through three weeks, then it kind of gets a little bit of it like I'll give it four. If you don't get right in the first four, um, then something's wrong. You know you're a third of this. Oh, they could lose this one. 

12:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, I could see if, if I started to see a little bit more efficiency in one of these games, yeah, I would put them, I would have picked them to win outright. I think it's a game you should consider for the money line. Yeah, well late in a week, because I could see it there being some variance here and the ecu cleans up the turnovers. Yeah, you can make cases of the better team so far, uh middle tennessee did you do anything in the middle. 

13:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Tennessee duke game I played under um, I mean one, I like that play. Two, I kind of I I can't touch. I mean Middle Tennessee is horrible. Uh. I mean Western Kentucky, that was a walker, a couple garbage time, touchdowns late, uh, obviously got blasted by Ole Miss. The other, I mean Tennessee Tech, uh, is gonna win the game. I know they should have won the game. They should have won the game and they're a that's not like a upper-tier FCS team. So I've got some concerns. Also, duke, a little bit more juice than I thought. You know what. 

13:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Really. 

13:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They almost lost to Connecticut last week. Well, hey, it was a rally the troops effort from UConn there I like Connecticut. Well, I was going to say, speaking of that might be another head-to-head, because that was an FAU get-right game last week, baby. 

14:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Get-right is in plus five turnovers. 

14:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They might do it again to the Mora crew, but no. 

14:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll go ahead to head. You want to fire up that one, Zach, Connecticut, Florida Atlantic. We'll go ahead to head on this one. 

14:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Actually I do like that the under in the Middle Tennessee Duke game. I will agree with you. 

14:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to go ahead to head at 2.5? I'll go ahead to head at 2.5. 

14:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
All right, you made agree with you. Do I go head-to-head at 2.5? I'll go head-to-head at 2.5. Give me the, give me the plus 2.5. The cheap 2.5? Oh yeah, fau's going up and they got Tom Herman, baby he's back One game where they're plus 5 in turnovers. 

14:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Nah, not buying it. Are we going under best bet for Middle Tennessee or get back to it? 

15:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I'm cosigning that one. 

15:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet it, but it was above the key number of 55. I'm not joking, 55 is the key total. Yeah, I mean I'm in like 49. There was a lot of yards in that Western Kentucky-Middle Tennessee game, but man Duke to me seems like a dead under team. No efficiency on offense even though they're running pace, and then, you know, manny's still got the defense looking okay you want to go under. 

15:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, let's go. 

15:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right under 53.5. First best bet of the show Under 53.5,. Middle Tennessee-Duke. There you go Boom. Tennessee Duke. There you go Boom. Shawnee Sports. Thoughts on Carolina plus three at home against Virginia. Virginia was off on the second half Saturday. I bet on them. Yeah, it looks like the whole world bet on them. That was one where I wish I saw that number in the middle of the week when Maryland was catching three Turnovers, though, were the issue. For the most part. I bet postal, but I wouldn't bet it at three. I kind of made it three. I bet it above three. 

16:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where are you at on that one? Um, I, I, I mean it was kind of agree with the market. Could movement there so far on, uh, virginia, and again that's, that was a, a second half to forget for Virginia last week. I don't know if that takes me off of them, though. As far as the season perspective concerned, because I think the offenses look pretty good. 

16:30
The weight effort doesn't look as impressive anymore, but I still think they've got, you know, a lot of pop there on offense with you know Calandria and they didn't run it particularly well either against Maryland. So I'm not totally coastal, would be more of a I would say it's more of a coastal fade for me in this one. So I was a little high, you know, higher on virginia than the market, um, and not particularly there on coastal. So but not not three and a half though. 

16:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I watched the coastal temple game today. Uh, coastal didn't look that good. No, and I think 10 was on tempo in that game. Uh, so I don't know anything above three. I lean coastal, but it's not one. I made like 50 bets. It's not one of my favorite bets. Uh, friday night, stanford, syracuse thoughts. No, I like stanford in the game. Uh, I bet stanford. Uh, that's what I bet I. I think it's a little bit. There was some early money on Stanford, but probably me. But sometimes you're like, oh, the market's this way, yeah, I'm, I'm probably the only mother MF or bet in this 10. Now I, I mean I'd still, I certainly still lean that way at 10. Where are you at on this game? Oh, nine and a half. I don't bet it at nine and a half. 

17:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Speaker 2. Half, I don't bet it at nine and a half. Yeah, I don't bet it at nine and a half. You're, you're, you're head to head with, uh, the old, the old franchise on this one. He liked Q's, uh under 10. Um, I gotta be on, personally kind of liked like Stanford getting the full 10 as well. Um, but it would have to be as you said, have to be. 

18:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let's revisit that one on Friday. Yeah, because it's a Friday game and you'll get you'll get a more of a read on the market. Public will be involved on a Friday night game. But yeah, I kind of like Stanford. I think they've got the better coach, although Syracuse look good so far. Both teams off a bye. I just trust Stanford's coaching staff to have a better game plan Plus plus. I like that double digit uh thoughts on Ole Miss to win it all. 13 to 1 feels right, uh like to me with how they've been performing the expectations early on. I mean they just haven't played anybody yet, so that's my only concern. Yeah, tennessee and Ole Miss. I mean I did tweet this. I mean, would you be stunned, I mean, if anyone told me, hey, ole Miss and Tennessee are the best two teams and they play for it all? 

18:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I wouldn't laugh at that right now, but they got to play people yeah, no, I agree with you that, um, I mean you do what you can, which you're playing these cupcakes and they're absolutely burying them, so that looks good. The link we talked about this in the summer, the lane kiffin um, experience of having to win multiple playoff games, I don't know. Also now at 13-1, that's not enough meat on the bone for me on that, uh, to want to back them um what's their play on? 

19:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
do you have the playoff market? Because I'd be much interested in laying a little bit of juice on them to make the playoffs looks like minus two ninety at vandal yeah, oh, I know, I'm not minus 290. 

19:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, that's just it was like minus. 

19:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just a couple of weeks ago it was like minus. Like what? 110 ish minus 120. Yeah, yeah, missed the boat on that. I got to get better, that's. That's a big, major improvement. That I need to make is getting better handle on that one Projecting forward. That was one of our winners, though last week we didn't during the show, leaked, leak down to 20.5. Then we give that out on Saturday's game, or either Friday or Saturday. 

19:51
Yeah, and that was one of our lone winners last week Didn't have to sweat that one. Clearly the right side Market was dead wrong on that one. Alex Grage in the chat Thoughts on Illinois and the Illini being able to contain Nebraska's and score a bit on that Oscar defense. In the chat thoughts on illinois and the the illini being able to contain nebraska's rio and score a bit on that oscar defense, give him a game in lincoln. Yeah I I regret not taking the doubles. I think it opened ten at uh one of the books that opened uh that I. I need ten, though I I can't bet it's single where you at on that one yeah it's, it's thin. 

20:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Um, I I haven't been overly impressed with illinois. I got to be honest with you. You threw that. You know which I thought was you know a turnover margin there. Uh, little fluky cover central and I think nebraska is like real deal. So, um, again, I'm not dying to get involved at you know minus nine or anything like that, but if I got a seven I'd be in on nebraska, I do. I think it gets there. No, but I will say rayola has kind of checked all the boxes so far for for a true freshman quarterback that you're thinking like that was the big question. Couldn't. How far could nebraska go with him? I mean, I I don't think it's like a big, you know play Big Ten championship type of year, but he looks real deal. You think. Are you not buying into it? I don't know what. You think that you're not liking the Patrick Mahomes cosplay or whatever he's doing. 

21:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know if I like the kid. 

21:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I'm not saying to go out for beers with him, I'm saying he's playing like how many quarterbacks in the Big Ten are? 

21:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
playing. Who has he played? I mean, come on, who has he played? 

21:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
How many quarterbacks in the Big Ten are outplaying him at the moment? Would? 

21:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
you rather? 

21:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
have Will Howard or Dylan Rayola right now if you're Ohio State. 

21:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Good point. I don't know Will Howard, I haven't seen enough of here. We are week four and I don't know who the buckeyes and will howard hasn't played anybody yet. I mean he played the. I know he played colorado, but I mean they didn't do anything after the first, like you know, a couple of possessions of the game. 

21:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So I don't know, I mean neither. That was a sure right that second half offense got, yeah, that great. 

22:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So I, I don't know. Keep in mind one of them was a sure right that second half offense got. Yeah, that's not great. So I, I don't know. Keep in mind one of them was a fluke, you know, bounced up in the air and wide receiver caught it. The other was a pick six. So what they do against colorado not much man. So I hate people are gonna get bored of this. But I think friday night's a good data point. I'll get a good feel, I mean hopefully, on these two teams, and people are gonna get sick of hearing that when you don't play anybody, that's what happens. Derek, I'm curious what you guys think about Oklahoma State and Arkansas. This week. I like both of these sides. Arkansas took some money. Today Oklahoma State got faded. I guess Cam Rising's playing. I'm going to be honest with you the other two. 

22:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like Oklahoma State, but I'm waiting for the line to get higher um, I, I, the three-letter service, played uh utah at three and I thought that was. I thought that was the right side. 

22:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, and now, yeah, of course it's moved four and a half points. 

22:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, but I mean I thought I mean that was there. This was a weekend, you know it's not here on the show, but I thought I listened, I liked utah. Yeah, as a dog there thought that was a show you want to go ahead to head on that one. 

23:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll take oklahoma, state you. 

23:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, baby, Give me you another idea, Zach, mark it down. The guy's feisty this week and I'm ready to put him in the derriere. So yeah, give me Utah. 

23:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not buying that he's. And if Cam Rising doesn't? 

23:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
play. I'm cashing that play out. 

23:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not buying that. He's 100%. So all right, there we go. Arkansas, Auburn, Arkansas, Auburn I actually lean Auburn. 

23:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh boy, I will say that was. I watched that UAB, most of that UAB Arkansas first half, that was not a great look for Arkansas all around, and then again, you don't want to just react to one half, but it was like UAB offense of execution Also, it was like UAB was just like physically pushing them around on their front there. Um, I, I swear to god, if uab had a better coaching staff, I think that would. That should have been like a competitive game. Uh, so I mean, it was reasonably competitive. But then, you know, going down to the stretch there, arkansas was able to get the offense rolling, but I don't know, I, um, I would lean a little bit auburn too. I, I'm just this auburn makes me wanna throw them is it two? 

24:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
where's that now? 

24:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I thought it was at three okay yeah, we'll come back to that one two would be a best bet. 

24:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I I would. Yeah, nah, I can't play that. No, you can play. Yeah. Nah, I can't play that. No, can't play that. Steve in the chat is Iowa now an automatic over team? Yeah, there's probably priors baked in there. They're 3-0 in the over after two years of going like 20-2 to the under. I'm not betting that this week against Minnesota. 

24:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was going to say I think some of that's opponent-driven so far this year. This is not the week Neither of these teams really loves the forward pass at all or running a play before two seconds on the play clock. So no, this one I would need like 33 and a half before I'm even considering in over here. 

25:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Where are you at? On Tennessee-Oklahoma game, derek's talking about Tennessee, obviously 65-0 at halftime against Kent State last week. 

25:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean. I will say again Tennessee same thing as Ole Miss. Done everything you can do against bad opponents, absolutely blow them. Kent State, though, would be like the 50th best team in FCS that's not hyperbole. They lost to a middle-layer FCS. That team is so far down. 

25:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Lots of them. They got beat by St Francis. That's what I'm saying. I think St Francis is one in two, lost to two FCS schools, two bad FCS schools, and they beat Kent State Unbelievable. 

25:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, do you think this is a lot? Do you think it's gone too far? 

26:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet Oklahoma. It feels like just when the. I mean it just feels like too easy for Tennessee. I think it's gotten too much of an adjustment. I haven't liked Oklahoma, though, at all. I mean I have concerns. I look like an idiot. I'm not comfortable making a best bet. I'm comfortable making a bet personally but not a best bet. I look like an idiot enough. 

26:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I do think Oklahoma's offense was more like they ran a lot of Jackson on them last week. I thought that was. It seemed. I don't want to say they figured it out, but the defense has been pretty good this year. And oh yeah, here we. Yeah, I know what we'll be seeing on the video this week with Oklahoma Moneyline At seven and a half. I would lean that way too. It's, it's. I agree with you. Not not in the best bet territory, though not at six and a half yeah seven half is the bet that I made. 

27:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, I bet that and it's okay with it. I just my numbers are nowhere near this and I've upgraded Tennessee like a touchdown, I've downgraded Oklahoma significantly. I just, I can't get to this number. But uh, another one we'll. We'll certainly talk on Friday on that one, eat that thoughts on Indiana 27 and a half Charlotte, georgia tech. 10 and a half Louisville. Well, indiana line is a pretty good line because I think that's painted what 28 and a half or they get that down, I mean they're just, they're just steamrolling right now and Charlotte was really really bad last week and to the point where I was texting. 

27:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Some people is Biff on the hot seat Now. Granted, they did come back. That was really bad this year, yeah. So with that, I mean I can't do it at over four touchdowns. So if you got in at under 28, respect that, but if it, yeah I can't bet it now I can, but I I got god. I honestly gun to my head at like 28 and a half. I'd probably lean charlotte I agree. 

28:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, georgia tech louisville I kind of lean louisville on that one yeah, it's been. 

28:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, this feels like one of those stretches for georgia tech where, yeah, it's been a. This feels like one of those stretches for Georgia Tech where they're kind of due to get it's trade week Louisville's off a bye. 

28:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it's already. 

28:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah yeah. One. It's a, and again we don't do talk too much spots on this show. This is a bad spot for Georgia Tech, yeah, and one of those that maybe you can't even factor it all into the number. 

28:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'd love a nine and a half or a flat. Yeah, let's. Uh, that's a game we'll come back to on friday. See where it's at right now it's on the wrong side of a key number. If it's on the right side, or you know, 10, we'll have to make a decision. Nine and a half, it's a go. Yeah, on louisville, charles, in the chat, reed looked pretty dynamic last week. A and m is playing a far superior team this week. The 2024 max champs look, did we? 

28:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
do you see? Do you see who's favorite now to win? Uh, let me make. Uh, I've seen it a few places in northern illinois. No, it was not, it's not at some shops, uh at fan. 

29:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean come on, toledo, it's not toledo, it is still. 

29:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's back to Toledo now. But some other places have our boys as the favorite there Still still only three. I bet some BG Listen. It was like 24 and a half, kind of still lean that way at 23,. To be honest with you, at 22 and a half I couldn't do it. 

29:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I lean A&M. I like Reed. I don't know, though, bg's off a buy. We'll see. 

29:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, I just. 

29:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like Reed over Wegman, though I can tell you that. 

29:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say that he did especially kind of gives them an element of that mobility that wasn't really um, and maybe I, you know, I say maybe the defensive kind of oh, but BG wasn't overwhelmed by the Penn State front, that's true. I think he's on par with his A&M front, so we'll see there. But I agree, Reed definitely gives them a different element they didn't have. I don't know, I just man, I know Florida was a nice get-right position there, but I'm still not loving all around what I'm seeing from Texas A&M. 

30:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Tailgate tent, one of our 65 watt viewers. Anyone here have any winners, or do I have to keep providing them Tent's off to a good start? 

30:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He is off to a good start, you know. But you get a little yappy all of a sudden. 

30:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know why he's chirping at me. I was the first one probably. He woke up, uh, and thanks for becoming a member. He probably woke up on sunday morning and he what was the first message he got was you know, good job for me. So I, I don't know, I don't chirp it, but when I'm up, I I don't. I know how this goes. 

30:51
You get humble quickly, although Tent's doing a really good job and it's nothing fluky, I mean, he's just not winning. He's winning big so far. So check him out on Twitter X Tailgate Tent, he'll get you hooked up. There you go. There's a little promo for you. Tent, you're welcome. $20 should be in the mail. I'll give you my address off the air. Welcome, $20 should be in the mail. I'll give you my address off the air. Uh, tom, in the chat, any thoughts on the Georgia Bama? Look ahead towards two and a half or ND five and a half against Louisville. I was looking at this where you had on that one, both of those games. 

31:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I, I mean this, I I know what this is. Uh, you know, I'm Louisville and Bama. Uh, yeah, the dog's barking, but I kind of lean Louisville in that one, if I'm being honest with you. 

31:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree, I was going to see what happened this week. 

31:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, this is kind of a again the Notre Dame coming up. We didn't even touch on that yet. Of course we've got our four points of CLV Leonard's playing let's not do anything. Of course you know we've got our four points of CLV Leonard's playing let's not do anything. And of course you know, the best win in 800 years of Notre Dame football, or whatever it's been. So, yeah, I know, I know, I don't know if you can bet the team. 

32:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
to be honest with you, I mean, I could see Louisville winning by three touchdowns, or Notre. Dame winning by three touchdowns, so they're almost unbettable right now. Georgia-bama, did you take anything out of? I would like three and I'll take Alabama. Okay, yeah, that one I got it like closer to like Georgia one. 

32:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I would need three to make a bet there and maybe we haven't talked Georgia. 

32:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, Not great that was a rough performance all around. 

32:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Also, man, they're starting. I mean again, it's a team with a lot of depth but they're beat up at a lot of places and when you factor in some of the guys they've had kicked off the team, suspended, injured, I don't know if they can make it through this SEC schedule, like previous, Georgia teams have been able to. 

32:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, they're not. No way that road schedule Bama Texas. 

33:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ole. 

33:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Miss. I think it's more likely that they lose two than run the table. How's that? Yeah, but now the 12-team playoff, they're still in. I will caution though. The last couple years they almost lost to Missouri on the road early. They almost lost to Auburn last year on the road early and everybody threw them in the trash. They've still won 42 in a row for a reason. In the regular season, rutgers plus five Virginia Tech. That was in a three-letter word release, right. 

33:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, there's no way, that's't no five yeah, I'd be, interested in Virginia Tech at three yeah, if you got in there, you know I think the number that was four and a half, that was uh. But yeah, I, virginia Tech's been underwhelming and it's two guys who were high in Virginia Tech to start the season, but do I think Rutgers offensively? 

33:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What have they played? I mean, I watched them against Howard. They didn't look nothing. 

34:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I agree, and I'm still not a fan of Calic Maness and that. 

34:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Three. That'll be on Friday. If it's three, I think we might go on. Vt, yep, lvd, penn State 48 and a half and over 55 and a half Hard to think. Penn State doesn't name the score. We all know Franklin isn't afraid of covering Kent State's remarkably bad. Yeah, the worst MAAC team we've seen in a while. Yeah, even worse than last year's Kent State team. Where you at on this one, I haven't played it yet. 

34:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I haven't played it yet. I haven't played it either. It's not about the over, though. I mean, these are Kent State's to a level of bad where it just seems like how long are you going to just keep running it up on them? 

34:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What's Penn State off of by? 

34:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

34:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know. I would lean Penn State in the over. 

34:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'd probably lean that way too. I don't want to catch the like. I don't want to get involved on kent state games right now, like these are at such a random like number place now 50 point spreads, where it's like ah, did we pull the starters, do we put that? So yeah, I'm not dying to get in on them we'll get back maybe to that total on friday. 

35:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, fabulous one, provided utah state lands safely in philadelphia. They have to be a play at least at less than a touchdown temple. No, I'm not there. A temple temple's dead last and turnover margin man. They just cleaned up a couple of them. They'd be a little bit better. I'm not there yet. We're yet there yeah, I. 

35:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I know the spence, spencer, petrus might be back this week. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, because I got to tell you I don't know. I kind of think Barnes is the better player. So yeah, I would lean. But I agree with you, temple, at least offensively, temple's been better the last few weeks and it's kind of shoulder pull. Defensively I still think they're trash, but yeah, they were the right side. Offensively temple's been better the last few weeks and it's kind of shoulder pole. Defensively I still think they're trash, but yeah, they were the right side versus coastal, no doubt. 

35:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, neat, seven or more. I was hoping to get more than seven, but yeah, I'm not looking about Utah state. I can tell you that. Uh, brendan Linhart in the chat shout out to our boy Narduzzi and Holstein, late game, heroics again. Do we have anything on that game? I don't think we did. 

36:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No but. People had pit in the over, so yeah, the Nard dog there, just he's, he's pulling in, I bet under six and a half win total. 

36:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's going to be dead. It was like a win different. There's some. You know everyone. It's all. It's five and a half painted everywhere. Some book had six and a half. I'm going to lose one full win. Unbelievable Check. See any under the radar cluster injury scenarios. That have your guys' attention. Notre Dame is really banged up on the offensive line. They're down three starters now. 

36:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What's the line on that one that's at FanDuel? 

36:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's Miami Ohio. 

36:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

36:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You like Miami Ohio, I don't know man. 

36:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I bet 28 today so. 

37:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know, miami, ohio best bet. Where are you at that? Listen, I kind of like the over. I don't think the offense line is as bad, as the guys replacing them actually were the starters last year. They just got beat out this year by the guys that never played before yeah, I, I just I'm gonna go listen. 

37:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know they just 66 7 coming off but we're talking about I still lean that notre dame is more of the team that is going to struggle to get these type of margin uh, in a lot of games. So I mean that was a get off the mat. We lost to NLU. We're going to smash Purdue. I still think Notre Dame's more of the team we saw in the first couple of weeks. That's not exactly this offensive juggernaut there. That just it was a great get-right spot last week. Want to go ahead and head? 

37:51
27 and a half. 

37:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You like it, you're going you're back in the irish, I think they're gonna kill them put it on, put it on another head, dad zach yeah, listen. 

38:00
Uh, yeah, I, it's a mac school, same point spread. If they, if they're not dialed in, then I mean I'd fire freeman at halftime. They should be dialed in. We'll see. Though they looked at that. That looked like an angry team last week, I don't know, and I watched Freeman's press conference today. He looked angry, which is good. I like that. I like when people are fired up. Where are we at here? Other cluster injuries, I don't know, I haven't got there yet. 

38:29
Obviously, a lot of quarterback issues. This week has been the main thing Rising in or out. Looks like he's in. Nc State's quarterback's out. Tyler Van Dyke I see, right before we came on, the show is out for the season for Wisconsin. We got one that's really interesting and we're going to get to it. We'll see if we got a best bet, but we'll get to it right now. Tucky, what the hell is going on with Cowbell, mississippi State? I know Joey K is Mr Fade Toledo. You guys back in Velt Camp. Yeah, finley's out, velt Camp's in. You think that's a downgrade? Velt Camp threw five touchdowns and had what? Three incompletions last week. 

39:06
I think it's 27 out of 30. 

39:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm kind of listen. I'm not off of the the. I know it was a nice performance with mississippi state last week, but there's been a lot of talk that, like this, missed to be apologized to dr brown, a resident mississippi state fan. Uh, this is going to be like the worst. Not I. I've heard of our friend bud elliott say on the cover you know our, they're like the worst non-Vandy team in 10 years or 15 years of SEC football. Yeah, so yeah, I can't help. 

39:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What is the Toledo-Western Kentucky game at Two and a half? Is that a better or we got to wait for three? 

39:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know there's some threes around. I don't know if we should go now. Go now, or, you know, like will it still ah, let's wait, all right it ain't gonna change. 

39:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If it goes to three, yeah, let's take it. If it's one and a half on friday, I still might take western kentucky. Does that sound right? Yeah, all right, I do it. Does the numbers do matter? Contrary to my best bet on Friday or Saturday, the Central Michigan game I got to get back in place. I'm sorry, nicholas, do you guys think that USF gets back to 17? Do they still like it at 16 and a half? Yeah, the old tout service missed that one this morning. The old tout service didn't have a good morning, missed a lot of stuff I was getting. People were hitting the board quicker than anticipated. I lean South Florida, but I can't take it at 16.5. I needed, I preferred above 17. 

40:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm with you. I thought, you know, when there was some 18, that was the red side 18, 18.5 for a flash, for a bit. Can't do it now yeah, that was. 

40:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I saw that going right before I was going to release like three plays and yeah, that's, that was a good play. I don't know who was that three letter word on that one? I don't think. No, that was not that somebody. That's why it wasn't them, as I think somebody else was going early. Whether it's a betting group or a service, they were going a little early today. Chuck C heartwarming story, niu. But I can't get to a 14-point spread there. We all agree, I agree. It's just there's been so much anti-Buffalo money late in the week three straight weeks so I'm kind of getting greedy and want a little more. Where are you at on this one? 

41:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, I agree, I know that there's a little little move to start this week, um, but yeah, that was the wrong idea. That was one of the ones. The market, uh, was way off, unless because Buffalo was handled. 

41:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We've got a little 14 and a half out there. What's where's fan do I know? 13 and a half. Oh Jesus, an old fan duel. The old hit the book shade. 

41:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I can't do it at 30. 

41:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No no 14 and a half's out there. You can do that with what you want. That would be okay with me. I'm not buying NIU. I mean, you've seen Hammock, who I don't like. I don't think he's that great of a coach to begin with. He's been on the media tour for a week or so. I don't think they're going to be buttoned up. Buffalo is buttoned up. Man, they're winning at the line of scrimmage. It's very repeatable the way they're winning games right now and they were okay against Missouri too. Missouri needed to score a touchdown like the final seconds to cover. Where are we at Trevor Troiner? Sitting on Clemson, my estate. I think I got a middle. I'm sitting on almost two touchdowns of CLV. I mean, depending on what your number is. What's your number now? I mean, if your number is 14, then go for a middle. 

42:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
If it's not, if it's 20 where the market is now, don't go for a middle. That's kind of my thought process. I would agree with that. I don't think you don't just middle to middle because you're sitting on a great number with like the you have, like, oh, I got this 10 points. If I don't cash it or something, I would sit right where you're at with the Clemson ticket. To be honest with you and this is from an anti-Clemson guy, but NC State is Not good. 

43:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I told you that Bailey was okay, though he led the comeback, remember, on Saturday's show I was like yeah, bailey, guy's alright. 

43:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, did you. Where are you on this one? 

43:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I know some guys Another like I almost released Clemson, but it got hit last night. That was going to be the Sunday night play on Old Town Service and it got hit like 10 minutes before release. So I bet clams in 20 is about where it should be so yeah, I'd like to say yeah, I'd let that minus eight roll yeah, I agree. 

43:48
speaking of uh. I don't see any of these. I'm looking at the questions. We got to talk Michigan USC. You want CLV. There were some plus double digits out in the market in the summer on this one. Now, as he's favored by a touchdown, I don't think I've ever came into a week four game with 17. Hold on, I got to think I have 19 points of CLV on this game already. Should I be playing back? Can you tell me what's going? 

44:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
on in. 

44:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Ann Arbor. 

44:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I tell you what's happening is it's Alex orgy. Heisman campaign starts this Saturday. Baby little, little late to the party, but we're firing off, no more Davis Warren and it's orgy time. So yeah, I'd you know what? I'd be running to the hills with that ticket, because I mean I don't. Here's what if you're a Michigan fan, this may be too in the weeds, but if you're not going to change the offense and run something that's more RPO-based, that's more running quarterback, then there's no reason to make the switch. 

44:53
If you're going to run the same offense, which is Davis what would you been running for the last few years which is like the JJ McCarthy, we're going to drop back and we're going to. If you're just going to run that, then there's no, you're just going to lose because Orgy is not the type of passer that you're going to have to get creative with that. 

45:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And I don't know if the staff's going to do it. So yeah, I wouldn't. I'm not looking to play it back. 

45:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I can tell you that, no, I'm not either. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't have the, I don't have the. 

45:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Run some RPO. I agree, I agree. Can USC stop you Now? Usc stopped LSU, but LSU I don't think is as good as expected, but LSU I don't think is as good as expected, but you run right at them. They did have 300 yards rushing last week, although there's aspects that I just don't like about this Michigan team. I mean even on defense, I'll give you one. I think Lincoln Riley's school is your boy, wink. 

45:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's the other. Well, Wink. Wink ain't no, we'll see, he was starting to go up a little too, and we'll see. I know last week he was not allowed to do as much wink stuff against Arkansas State. We'll see how much comes back. But yeah, I agree with you. 

46:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He gives me Don Brown vibes. 

46:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

46:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Does he give you Don Brown vibes? 

46:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, because I'm going to blitz, no matter what. Like I have like one of the best, you know, the two best D tackles in the country, and I'm going to send six all the time, because that's what I do, I don't know. So, yeah, I'm not loving that. Maybe it's. 

46:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
McDonald and Minner. I can tell you that they miss your defense. They miss your boy Harbaugh too. I don't know if you no it's not the same. 

46:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come back to us, jim, please. Yeah, hey, proof is in the pudding baby Orgy Jeffrey Benson. 

46:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was when you were in town. You could have bought me a couple drinks instead. 

46:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, when this cashes, I'll take you to the Spearmint Rhino and have a real good time after the three stacks of high society come in. 

46:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fish. I can't even find this thing on FanDuel. There's no orgy, I don't think he's listed. 

46:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, the problem is Zach, he hasn't really played a five snap so far this season and it's week four, so a little tough to win the Heisman when you don't play at all. But let me tell you, after a victory over the trojans this week by 14 are you really saying that or? 

47:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
no, I'm not saying that but I mean, I, I wouldn't be surprised if they won the game plan. It's there, run right at them. 

47:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I just don't have faith in this staff to implement that game plan. That's one of those. You you know what live betting. If you see Michigan coming out with some unique formation stuff but orgy and running some, then okay, jump on in Until I see them run a different offense. If you're running the old play action, drop back. No. 

47:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got to be honest, I'm not saying this just to. This could be bad for Michigan this year, like six and six, seven and five. Man Indiana's much better and I don't know if any games on the schedule safe. Let me look Lucky. We already talked about the Bama Georgia game. Obviously we'll talk about that all next week. Maybe I already mentioned that, Michael, in the chat. Rutgers oh, we already looked at that. Rutgers oh, San Jose State plus 14. Sleepwalking yeah, I like San Jose State this week. Is it 14? Another one that got hit right before the old tout service was going to give it out. 

48:35
I like San Jose State, service was going to give it out. I like san jose state, yeah, I would lean that way. We'll see. That's a friday game. Let's see where the market is on friday yep, uh, but yeah, tough spot. Washington state, you know, crying post game just went, had their won their super bowl. I, san jose state's better than I expected. I think we're in trouble on that win. Total bet that I sent you. We're in trouble, they are better than expected. 

48:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, under five and a half. I think we're even trouble on that win total bet that I sent you. We're in trouble. They are better than expected. 

48:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, under five and a half. I think we're even. I think it closed four and a half. I think we're in trouble. They haven't played anybody, but we'll see. Uh, christopher o'donnell is that the chris o'donnell from uh sent of a woman and batman and robin? Anyways, that's before your time. That is Christopher O'Donnell. Yeah, I know I'm so old. The 90s are like ancient Tailgate 10. When I said scent of a woman, you're like what Good movie For those of you that You're muted. 

49:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Am I back? 

49:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
on. Yeah, you're back on. All right, Great scene. It's seen at the end. Al Pacino won the Oscar for it. It's unbelievable. Highly recommend the movie. Chris O'Donnell's a kid in the movie. Good movie early 90s, back when movies were good. Tailgate 10, Arch Heisman. Have you done anything with this? 

49:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, but I wish I would have in the office. I tell you what in the off season I was looking for, like, uh, I mean we, we remember the class. 

49:59
Yeah, you did yeah didn't exactly happen how it played, but, um, I I need. It's funny because I tell you what if, if ewers was out for the season, I would be. I know the numbers got knocked down a lot of places, but that would be 100% live if he was out for the season. Now I think he didn't. He's been playing too well. He'll get his job back when he's hurt, but the arch media hype train would be absolutely off the radar right now With one, with the way he's played, two, with how good texas looks. Um, also, I mean, he looks arch. I I wasn't that much of a believer, but like seeing him play, see, do you see the top speed or whatever you're not that big of a believer. 

50:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're betting you on monroe against him this week. 

50:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You, you don't like arch, I love well, I mean, I'm a believer that he could you know 52 to 10. 

50:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
good point, well done uh I know I and you know what? 

51:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
nobody gave me 500 to 1 or 300 to 1, because I'd have a hundred dollars on that if they yeah like I think I gave you what was it when we were doing that? 

51:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was like 75, 80 to one maybe I know nobody nobody was over like 100, which I nobody was. I never saw anything over 100 and yeah, we should have bet that. That's one I regret. Probably should have peed some money on that one. Uh, blake in the chat. I couldn't resist on memphis minus eight and a half, even with the hangover and travel. What's the buy point for you guys? Ah, it's kind of a stay away I argued with people. 

51:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I got a college football group chat with a bunch of guys and they all loved Navy. Our three-letter service gave out Navy. They all loved Navy. 

51:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I love Navy too. At the right price, man. This ain't the price. You know what I was expecting 13, 14. Weren't you? 

51:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Listen, I was expecting 13 14. I weren't here. I listen, I think mem, memphis, I think this memphis team is kind of real d and it's not going to be the memphis of like. Yeah, whether I like memphis under 10, I'll put it at that. All right, we'll come back to that one. It might, it might, get a little room to breathe there. So, yeah, let's come back to it. 

52:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll come back. We might give out Memphis because power ratings say Memphis. I mean you can give me a flat spot all you want. I was expecting to bet Navy at like 14, and it wasn't even close. Onion man thoughts on BC. At less than a touchdown against Michigan State, they seem like a legit team. Nah, I took over seven and a half with Sparty. 

52:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know Sparty's injuries are really piling up. 

52:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, are they All right. 

52:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That would be the ones I don't think enough to, but I know some guys that played some minus. I think five and a half six Under. If it got back to seven, I think you'd have buyers here on either side of seven. 

52:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, that's all it is. I got you Under, took some money. It looks like I bet the under two. That's probably my preference. Action Sports Central. How do you guys handle power ratings on teams like Florida State, Wyoming that have had extreme outcomes? Same can be said for the Saints and the NFL. I mean, all the outcomes for Florida State and Wyoming have been extremely bad. Historically I've been conservative. It might be the wrong approach in today's day and age. 

53:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what I would say, for I don't know. Since sports betting was I was talking to a guy about this the other day since sports betting was invented up until about two years ago, I think conservative was the right approach. In today's portal, roster turnover, day and age it's just a new day. It's very hard to quantify because teams are 15, 20, you know three, two, two, three, four touchdowns difference on a year-to-year basis. In some cases, florida state is, like I don't know for the 28 points worse than last year's team like at the high point of uh before the injury to travis. 

53:56
Probably yeah so I mean that that was literally, I mean a once in a decade occurrence and but pre-transfer portal, you'd mostly never, you know, be viewed between zero and seven points year to year. Now teams are two, three, four touchdown difference. So, yeah, it's just nfl, I wouldn't do it. 

54:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, it has drafted it's just been a goofy first two weeks yeah, yeah yeah so, although I do think it's funny, everybody wins on x. 

54:25
And then people in the survivor contest. You know three-fourths of people are out just picking a winner in the first two weeks and yet I gotta hear about people hitting 75 against the spread. You're not. Come on, get out of here. Uh, crestman brad, I know last show you mentioned leaning towards baylor at colorado. You think more money to pour in the bus or is this the time to take Baylor? I did bet Baylor on the open, but I need three or more when you at. 

54:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I tend to agree. I'm kind of surprised that got done. I saw that open, I think, before circa. 

54:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it was, I got it. And then I thought it was we might come back man. And then, um, I I thought we might come back man. I hate this. We're gonna have to give out a few best bets here. But, uh, friday, let's see where it's at friday, but because I don't think we're gonna lose much no, I don't think so either. 

55:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So, but I I mean I like baylor. 

55:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean they put the hammer down on the second half against air force. I wanted that because I was like oof, I mean, if I don't get this with baylor uh, do you think they're better with robertson? 

55:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, yeah, I mean that would be my only challenge to like you know the colorado I don't think it would be. 

55:37
I I don't think daquan finn was a p4 level quarterback. Nah, and again, now that was against oh, or he wasn't. Robertson, you know, did this against what might be the worst rendition of air force since you know, I don't know the civil war, but they're like so bad, I'm like having like should we be worried about our national security? This is like the worst air force team I can remember in our lifetime, Like what is that? I've never seen. 

56:02
I got to go back like to the record book to see how the team can't score. 

56:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They were 2-10 a few years ago. They might be 2-10 this year. 

56:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think that'd be a good year for them. From what I've seen, that's another win total. 

56:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm going to have to write you a check. I'm going to have to personally drive toroit and hand you a bag full of money, because that was another win total. I told you to bet over five and a half. I think close six and a half seven, we're dead yeah, yeah, that one is uh, that one is as dead as it I'm. 

56:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, there was a one, two and ten season under troy calhoun one. I mean they never were worse than five and seven, though, except outside of that, for I thought they were two and ten, one year no no, no, they did have one, two and ten year in 2013. Um, oh wow 10 years ago that was like outside of that they haven't. There was like, yeah, you, you got to go way back to have the type of thing as bad as it's getting this year. 

57:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean unbelievably bad offense. Another team where you think, oh, you know they don't return much, but you know Air Force isn't up and down too much, right, right, you can't change their power rating. Yeah, I guess you can. Unbelievable Oof Looking here. Can unbelievable looking here. How many viewers do we got that's? Send that to me, zach. I guess we lost some. I'm guessing. Uh, harry, in the chat, everyone needs to retweet, to hit the books announcement or tell someone need to get this to seven, eight hundred viewers. Uh, when you go three and nine, you're not gonna uh, you're not gonna get. Uh, you, you're not going to grow the audience. We had 610, so we didn't lose that much. So that's good. Currently right, around 600. That's good. Tcu Moneyline SMU looks terrible. Cheers from Brazil, diego Cunha, hopefully I'm saying that right, where are you at on this game? I kind of like the over. 

58:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Actually, I bet some tcu early. Uh, for one of my guys, like the minus. I think there was like a one and a half or something. 

58:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, a little bit like two and a half. 

58:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, that's the best about it. I don't know I'm in on uh I'm in on the two and a half there. Um, is that what? 

58:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
we got. Let's, let's wait. 

58:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Fan duel yeah, I, yeah, I was going to say the FanDuel lean. Do they have that? No, lock it in Boom. Two and a half Is it? That's a Hold on a second. Let me see where. I think that money line is too cheap for. Oh, you want to do the money line instead? No, I'm just looking at what the other I mean. Mean, that is the cheapest money line in the market right now. Most places are minus one thirty. 

58:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let's do 20 line instead minus 128. 

58:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Because I think, yeah, two and a half are pretty much well populated, but nobody's got that uh cheap of the money line. 

58:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So all right, um, I I mean, well, it ain't that. Now you see, look what happened there you go, that's uh now you can get? I don't think anybody has down now. 

59:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Now, if you hadn't get it in, that's don't bet that minus one, 50. 

59:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I might've went three and nine, but at least they still respect us. So wow yeah, Don't bet three and a half now, please. 

59:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree, but listen, I don't. I thought TCU and you know the tailgate tent, wajay the lucky son of a bit, was on UCF. They were handling their business all game until that. You know, last boom, boom, boom, and it's so that that doesn't throw. It doesn't like throw me off of TCU in terms of, I think, being a an upgrade from last year and being a pretty good team, and the smu we've seen looks like trash for the most part. So their defense all right, but I don't. I don't know if there's anything coming to save smu in terms of like, even with jennings at quarterback, um, the offensive line is just in shambles. 

59:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah yeah, tailgate did get that one at the end, Although I mean UCF was okay. But speaking of tailgate, tent says he loves us guys. Does Travis Hunter have his third Heisman this weekend? 

01:00:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Nah, I do. I do think he's not going to win the Heisman, obviously because Colorado is not good enough. He, he is, I think, the best non lineman, like from a professional standpoint NFL I would take. I, I would take him like I think he's gonna go like top three, like he's the best prospect wide receiver, db running back any of those positions that it's not he, honestly, oh yeah, probably even better than is there a lot quarterback? I don't think he goes above you know the number one quarterback or that, but who is the number one quarterback? 

01:00:52
uh back becker, I mean, it's been what beck sanders, ewers as uh I take him over. 

01:00:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Should do her. Come on, ewers sucks beck. We see, I don't know, I ain't. 

01:01:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So I think, I mean I think he does, yeah, like I don't think you're going to, we'll see, but he is an unbelievable prospect, like I'll give it. I I sold him a little short earlier in the year when at wide receiver, but I don't, I mean he's playing like the guy the guys in, like the shape of a Greek guy Like he's. It reminds me of the Christian McCaffrey streak where he played like every snap on offense for the Panthers for like an entire season. He's playing like a hundred plus snaps with like no, it's nobody's done this since, like you know, the I don't know the turn of the century. 

01:01:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, even longer than that. 

01:01:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That I mean Dion and some other guys, you know woodson, they did a little bit they weren't finding 100 plus snaps a game, right, right. 

01:01:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, yeah, they haven't done this in two-way stuff in like the 50s, if I'm serious, I don't, I don't hear you yeah, so yeah I. 

01:02:02
If. If the heisman was about the best player in the country, which it never is, then I think Tailgate had a great bet. But it's not about the best player, it's usually you got to be on a great team. Dylan Joey K could quarterback a win over Florida. Why didn't they fire Napier? Because now they play Mississippi State, they win. Then you're awkward. It's a bye week. I don't get it. I would have fired him after. 

01:02:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know a friend of the show Bud was saying they don't like who would you put as interim? Oh yeah, he did. 

01:02:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was a good point. 

01:02:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
A lot of guys on the staff that you like. 

01:02:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's a problem, though you don't have anybody on the staff that you trust to be the interim. That's a problem. 

01:02:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know. I mean at the same time, what is the? I mean, I don't know. Do you just roll? 

01:02:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
through. Yeah, he gets fired after Central Florida beats him in a few weeks on their home field. So that would be my projection. Do you agree or disagree with that? 

01:03:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I just I agree. I think the pressure will get like the emotional, like pressure of being like the Florida fan base will just demand blood and want him out and then I think they'll cave. Logically, I don't think it makes a difference whether him and him or not through the end of the season, but I think people just will foam at the mouth want blood and they, they want him fired. 

01:03:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A few more here and then we'll go through the the board and see if we got a few more best bets. Uh, speaking of best bets, jimmy's teeth, lsu first half. What do you think of lsu this week? I? 

01:03:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
know, I saw, I saw the doctor bob came back on ucla. Yeah, I was gonna say, I did a little little. 

01:03:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, tout wars there I think ucla could be the worst power team. 

01:03:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They really could be mississippi state, you know, yeah, purdue bad yep, no, I'm with you, because that was uh, they were not. They were not competitive versus an indiana team. That again is a nice story, but that that's not like a great team or anything and they're getting destroyed by. So that that's another. I mean, we just talked about it, that's a how. How much worse is the UCLA team this year from last year? 

01:04:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
and that that not like that was in the markets got a hand. I. I know I didn't have a handle on my power ratings the first couple weeks, yeah. I mean, that's one I don't like that full game. I'm gonna go best bet lsu minus 24. Do you disagree or no? No, I don't disagree with it, it's just I, I would have. 

01:04:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh my god, I don't want to be four and a half widely available 24. 

01:04:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Go ahead and lay it, but uh, yeah, we won't put that down there. I just I would have regrets if LSU won like 49-7. I'd be like why didn't I? Bet LSU. Not that LSU is that great. I just think UCLA could be like Mississippi State Purdue level bad and there's still some priors in there. 

01:04:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know, like what does UCLA, this year's team, do well, like really in any facet? I mean, last year's defense had some first-round, some nasty play, like this year and that Hawaii game looks even worse. 

01:05:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There you go, you hit the nail on the head. Now we can start connecting dots. Hawaii is terrible. Yeah, they almost lost to Delaware State and they got rolled by Sam Houston. Yeah, and they're like home to. Hawaii is terrible. 

01:05:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

01:05:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, I like Indiana also quite a bit, but again, indiana necessarily hasn't played a lot of people though either. 

01:05:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So no and listen, I think LSU can name it in this one. 

01:05:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I think Kelly's already talking about I think they found a running back a little bit. Remember that was one we won't ever get credit for. We said, hey, LSU is going to come back and win this game. Remember, on the half. 

01:05:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I know. 

01:05:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And they did. I know they got some beneficial breaks, but that's one that could turn their season around. That's one that could turn their season around. Kelly's talking about like he was on fine bomb today and he, I, I think they're gonna want to put 60 minutes together. I'll just put it that way. I, I think, they, I think that's a burial. I mean I could see a 50-point win, to be honest with you. So I, el foster, has been not up to the moment since the big ten. Uh, yeah, yeah, that's the. 

01:06:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Moment is way too big for him so far, and I see Tripp in there, eric Biennemi, who was like people were saying, why wasn't he an NFL head coach for like five years when he was under Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes? And it's like, well, I think we've figured out why he wasn't doing anything. 

01:06:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He wasn't anything. He wasn't, come on, unbelievable. So LSU minus 24. If you can find it there you go. Can't wait. We got to use the Fandu lines here. Big Ross got to start hating the portfolio again. Yeah, we'll do that this week. 

01:07:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Definitely, you know that's coming right. 

01:07:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I hate the portfolio. Hate it Holt. Any updated Heisman thoughts Kind of want to be anti-Cam Ward, given no big games, I don't know. I bet I agreed with the tent and there was a feeling I had late. I ended up betting Cam Ward late. 

01:07:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah he actually had me out running, I wouldn't bet a nine, no, no, yeah, I'd bet the no. 

01:07:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean now, but where are you at on this? I haven't added anything in a few weeks. 

01:07:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Me neither. I do think Lane is like actively trying to we talked about 10, a little bit about this today like trying to get Dart the Heisman, but it's like the price has already come down so much. Um, it does seem the market's kind of shaped up here. The thing with cam ward is like I think miami just I mean there's a chance they can run the table like a good chain and I mean they're they're going to be favored in every game, yeah, and he's going to be able to put up some stats. And then you I mean Quinn was the big threat there. Like Ewers was the guy where Texas is like winning all these. You know if they can run through the SEC bigger profiles at Texas quarterback. Now if he misses a few weeks. 

01:08:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He probably ain't going to get it. 

01:08:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, he probably can't get back in it and so I don't know. This seems like not to. There's nobody outside of that top three or four there that I'd be looking at adding. 

01:08:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's also an award anymore that's won in November, so it's not like a career achievement award anymore. Yeah, agreed, I think we'll have a better grasp in November. I know the prices will move around, but we can something to be pretty confident in six weeks. Chuck C, new member, appreciate you, chuck Luke, did someone turn the heat up in here? Brad Rock and the Potter Blue Chargers I hope the contrast shows white tea so amazingly well. Simple but genius. These are fashion goats in the industry. 

01:09:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, you don't come for the picks anymore, baby, you had to come for the style. So yeah, that's what we're. You know we're a swag show now and movie reviews as opposed to college football. 

01:09:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Chuck C says FCS is already up on FanDuel. I'm not ready to dive into that on a Monday. So my goodness, I'm not ready to dive into that on a monday. So my goodness, uh, I'm not ready. Fcs has been something a little. That's been a little wild too this year, like yeah, I actually had uh another one that we should have just had conviction for doing a saturday live show. 

01:09:35
When I say, north dakota, you were there betting it, I freaking will not, I gotta give you a hat tip because I actually bet that and uh, I know you're betting it. 

01:09:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They had the best price in the market too, and we still didn't give it as unfavorable. We didn't give it out the only nine and a half available and didn't fire it as a bet. Yeah, we didn't fire. It's like 38-0 in the second quarter. 

01:09:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They're legit North Dakota. I watched them against Iowa State state and I'm like this is a legit team. I was. I would say they're alive to win it all Agreed. 

01:10:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yes, cause some of that, yeah, some of the cream of the crop in the FCS has not been North. 

01:10:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Dakota. I mean again, I follow it. They almost did. You see that North Dakota state had scored two touchdowns in the final couple minutes to beat these Tennessee states so, and South Dakota states down this year. 

01:10:23
So North Dakota's live to win it all. Not North Dakota state, north Dakota, yeah, all right, let's recap it. Let's see what we got best bets. Oh, we got a money line parlay. We gotta do that. Uh, you know we're out of the gate with a loss last week, uh, we had two embarrassers. We had Kansas and Mississippi state. So not good, not good. Four and two loser. We got, I think, seven legs this week. Zach, if you want to bring that up Now. 

01:10:51
Caveat, need four to one is what the parameters they give me and the parameters that I put on myself is. If I bet the team, the favorite on the spread on the open, then that qualifies for me. Obviously I could give out. You know, texas and Ohio state and a bunch of teams like that. Maybe I will one week do like a 15 legger on four touchdown favorites. But if I bet the team on the spread and obviously I think they're going to cover as a favorite, let's put them in the money line app state. There's been money in the market today on App State like that. That's on a Thursday. I think people are overreacting. The South Alabama game last week. So I think there's value. On App State spread and money line North Carolina, you and I disagree on that one, so you don't like that one. I do Louisville. I like Louisville this week. I like Louisville against the spread, so let's do the money line there. 

01:11:41
Sam Houston's a sneaky team. Keep an eye on them. We've talked about it for a few weeks now. They're live in Conference. Usa Might be. The more I think about it. Liberty's not as good. Is Sam Houston live to win it. 

01:11:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What do you think I mean? Listen, oh, I got to finish your part right there, I'll finish it. 

01:12:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got to finish your parlay there, I'll finish it. I got to give you a conference feature. Thought Wow, Zach said should we turn in a seven-team underdog round robin? Funny, Zach. Unbelievable Fresno State just bad in numbers. I think. New Mexico is pretty decent, but I think sooner or later New Mexico is going to run out of gas. Kansas State on the road against BYU not ideal, but I did lay it. Army Rice is bad, so there you go. 

01:12:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
All right, conference future added to the portfolio today. All right, you give me yay or nay here, or do you like it? I put on the red bandana. Boston College. It was like 33-1 to 1 ACC. They don't play Clemson or Miami on the season, have Louisville at home and a lot of the. I mean we're like some of the SEC or the ACC. Obviously they already got the Florida state victory in pocket. If you look at the ACC schedule and how, with how good you know I again I think they're significantly, significantly improved. I would have that. I mean I think they're a better team than the four teams listed above them there the Virginia tech, the SMU, nc State, syracuse. So I think they're I don't hate it, especially without Clemson and Miami on the schedule. I think they're live to make the title game Again. They'd be an underdog against a Clemson or Miami, you know, in the title. But at that price, if you can get their fan to 25 to one or better, I think they've got a real good shot to actually make the title game. 

01:13:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They're buttoned up. Bill O'Brien is a decent coach. You look at who he won Penn State with Hackenberg, one with idiot Deshaun Watson in Houston and it might not be so bad. Maybe that Bryce Young went on a Heisman with Bill O'Brien as the offensive coordinator doesn't look so bad. 

01:14:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, it's another. No, that's a sneaky one. I agree, yeah. 

01:14:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Maybe it's not so bad folks, let's look at the board real quick. I don't know if you could do this Scroll through. Is there anything that we missed? Anything you want to give out? We gave out LSU Best bet. What else did we give out? I know we're a little light today. 

01:14:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, we are a little. Where are you at on the Houston-Cincy game. Let's just come down. 

01:14:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I like Houston. 

01:14:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Me too, but I got to get what do we add on that? 

01:14:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just, little Zach, just, I think, a couple of games. I think it's a noon start on Saturday, I thought it was. Maybe it's not there it is. Where are we going? I know it was six and stuff, but I know I'm taking it. No, hold on, let me guess. Uh, fanduel opened it up at seven and a half and you took Houston. Yeah. 

01:15:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I also time. Are you waking up for this? 

01:15:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm waking up at like 4 in the morning out here on the West Coast and stuff's gone already. 

01:15:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
But I mean I added some, not just the fan, but I bet the circuit price, I bet some sales, and this is from a guy who, of course, faded you. So it'll flip this week and they'll get curled, but I think they're real. Live in this game. 

01:15:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let's give it out plus four and a half, because I do think they're live too. I think they're the better team and you're gonna probably have them in the money. 

01:15:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, money line yeah robin yeah I agree, I might do it four and a half too. 

01:15:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think they're the better team. I agree with my buying cincinnati I know you gave them out in one last week, but I wasn't overwhelmed, uh, with their miami ohio performance. So boom, there's one, got another one no, I think that was. 

01:15:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That was the only one. I was kind of eyeing on the radar for the moment. 

01:15:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, we got. I mean, problem is you and I went head to head on like five or six games. I know. So what do you think of Northwestern Washington? 

01:16:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Don't have nothing on that one at the moment. 

01:16:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, fair enough I like the dog, okay, especially at the hook. I'm looking at my card A lot of stuff we pushed. I'm not wild on totals. I thought I got lucky on a bunch of totals last week because, man, I gave out like three or four overs and there was like weather and stuff. I happened to win a few. But I'm a little we'll see with weather. There are quite a few totals that I'll probably give out on Friday. I don't know, I got nothing else. I don't think it was an all right show. I wouldn't say it's, you know, just to put in perspective. 

01:16:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh you know I'm pretty, you know critical. I don't think this was our best show, but you know we got through it, we pushed through it, hey, hey down, be beaten down, but not out, baby. 

01:16:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, so I appreciate everybody watching. 

01:16:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Unless you got any closing thoughts, I think that's going to do it watching unless you got any closing thoughts, I think that's going to do it. No, I, I'm telling you they let's, uh, let's a little bounce back week, hate the portfolio and uh, yeah, I don't like it and you could tell the energy's down a little bit, get going on friday sucks, uh, everything sucks. 

01:17:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, uh, especially michigan, that'll do it for the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey knish, producer extraordinaire, zach phillips, all your questions, comments, concerns. We appreciate you guys. You guys are the star of the show and that show being hit, the books live hammer betting network sponsored by. See you friday.