00:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
3, 2, 1, here we go. All right, let's do this Four o'clock on a Friday. You know what time it is? An hour early. We are hitting the books, part of the Hammer Betting Network sponsored by FanDuel. Alongside the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish, producer extraordinaire, zach Phillips, I am merely Brad Powers. 

01:02
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02:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, you may. You know a little, a little tropical theme out here, still warm in the great Midwest, baby Tropical day tropical theme and need some heat to get back on track here. So hopefully you know we got, I got a few best bets today. Get it, get it back for the weekend. So I am uh, I am excited for the uh for the college football weekend. This we got setting up here yeah, uh, I am too. 

03:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's uh much more from a fan perspective and you got bigger matchups, obviously three ranked on ranked matchups and a lot of line movement back and forth all week. It'll be interesting, we'll dive into a bunch of them, but we're going to lead this off with a super chat, and the super of super chats, I must say Christoph Harper, $99.99. My goodness. 

03:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I tell you what Zach's going to be having himself an extra Labatt this weekend with you know, whatever girl he's dating nowadays. 

03:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, he might be going to Applebee's with your buddy, dan Campbell, who's got to move out of his house because of fans like you after the Tampa. 

03:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Bay disaster. Hey, win the games you wouldn't have to move Unbelievable. 

04:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You do remember what it was like there under Matt Mill. Oh, I do. 

04:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I do, but that's what we strive for excellence here in the Detroit community. So listen, no, stone unturned baby, you got to win that, got to win those games if you want us not to harass you. 

04:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, christoph is wondering about the Colorado State game against UTEP. Colorado State minus nine. Thoughts Also wild, how efficient the market is getting by midweek, uh, let's say wednesday, yeah I mean it's efficient, quick, but then then a lot of things you're like I'll never see that line again, it's gone, and then it comes back around thursday and friday. So it's a very different market than ever before, in my opinion. I want your thoughts on that. As far as color State minus nine, I have made that bet this week. It was just a pure numbers bet. I got to be honest, though I'm not wild about it now. I mean I'm not playing back into UTEP, but I did play Colorado State. I just went Horton out with them off of a big game against Colorado. I'm not wild about it. I don't know what to make of UTEP yet. It hasn't been a good start. The Scotty Walden there, uh, but where are you at on this game? My favorite bet, I bet the under on the game. 

05:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think that, yeah, I would agree with you that of the of this available sides, that was probably the only one that I think was attractive. Uh, and I want to give you a you know, just a little bit more on the meat on the bone for for paying for zach's whole weekend and that, but it at 10, it would be a utep for me. I, I'm, I'm really down. I mean, we were, we were way down on colorado state in the summer. I'll be honest with you, it's even a little worse than I kind of thought. 

05:38
Um, especially with, with toy horse, I mean, if they're their best player by a mile, uh, who's banged up, he's's obviously not going to go this weekend. One of those lingering things. I don't know how long it's going to take him to get. Usually like a hamstring, that type of thing is going to take you weeks to get right. Usually keeps flaring up again. Utep hasn't been super impressive. It would be. It's not in the money line round robin today, but I know some people that threw UTep in theirs. Um, as a team that you know, a game, high variance game could go either way. It would be more of a colorado state fade for me and just thinking that against any. You know, buddy, with a pulse here, that they probably shouldn't be upwards of 10. So if I got a 10 it'd be utep, otherwise wouldn't be too interested yeah, I couldn't agree more. 

06:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I do think it's a high variance game, so I agree with a little bit of the money line. If you're looking for UTEP Nicolosi, the quarterback has not gotten any better. Hasn't cleaned up the sidewalls $600,000 man. Yeah, he sucks. I think the coach should be on the hot seat. Just saying I agree with you. He's the highest paid coach in the Mountain West To do what Barry Odom comes in at, UNLV wins immediately. I mean how many years he needed this guy. I'm just not a fan. 

06:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think they're worse too. Like this is, I think their worst rendition of the team, and maybe they've been they haven't gotten any better. 

07:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, I don't know of any look. We've had our fair share of losers on this show, but I'm not sure anyone was talking was banging on Colorado State, but us over the summer. 

07:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't, yeah, I mean I can. In the old school college football you would think it's Norvell, it's year three. They lost the most of their good play, like a lot of their defensive players and depth over the like. The summer is gone, and so now your, your best player, gets hurt. What do you have left? 

07:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yeah, not much, but what we do have much is that 99.99 super chat. So we appreciate that 100 bucks. Uh, christoph and zach appreciates it. He's gonna have. Uh, what a labatt's blue. I don't know what the what the hell you drink up there anymore. You're close to it. You're right across the river there. 

07:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I'm close to it. They won't let me swim across and they won't even give me the pro lines anymore. So I don't know, I don't know, keep it simple, boys, keep it simple, so it's simple. Guinness. That's what I drink, guinness isn't Canadian. 

08:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's not Canadian. What the hell You're drinking Canadian beers? 

08:05 - Zack Phillips (Guest)
like Molson Canadian, that's one it's. They're the breweries right around the corner from us. All right, no yeah, Guinness. 

08:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The guy, guy, guy, guy's waving a leaf. We say keep it simple when he comes on with Guinness. What. He's not going right. That's across the, an entire ocean, an ocean oh yeah, he's an irishman yeah, I see what you he's going on brand, he's going, all he's total lifestyle consuming the irish culture guinness with riley leonard yeah, yeah, unbelievable. 

08:42
Let's get to the questions again. We appreciate that again. Can't thank you enough, christoph. Uh, brian, henning, what do you think of coastal plus three and a half virginia, where you at? On that one, I'm um, I bet coastal on the open, just playing a number. It was five at the time. I understand why there was some buyback on virginia. I I ain't got a bet right now at the current numbers. 

09:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean at flat. I did fill some money line in flat three this week for some guys I bet with. But again, at the current I think pretty much it's painted three and a half everywhere. There might be a smattering of a juice three out there in the land somewhere. That'd be the only side for me. Again, it's so thin, wouldn't play. I not can't do it at three and a half. So, yeah, at three. Uh, it would be a virginia for me, but now I couldn't get there at three and a half. Um, with this, total has done a little bit of. Uh, do you do anything with the total? 

09:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
no, it's down a little it. 

09:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it came down. I know some people on both sides of this one. I didn't touch the total. Yeah, I haven't gotten involved At 53.5, now, though I'd lean on the over. 

09:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fair enough. I'll say this If you're looking to bet coastal, I might wait, because the last two weeks on game day I would say virginia's gotten as much money as anybody in the country. They flipped from dog to favorite against both uh wake forest and maryland, so uh might get a better number tomorrow on that one. I think you can get a four or more there when it's all said and done, charles, who, who is always one of the first in the chat in the comments? Uh, he says he came here to know the answer to all of life's biggest mysteries. What is Joey Kanish buying when Orgy wins the Heisman? What's BP's going to do if his 19 points of CLV loses in the biggest cam, rising in or out? He's covering a lot there. So the first one is the Michigan-USC game. On both fronts You've had a week of practice, a week of what's her name? Angelique Shangalis reports down in. 

10:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ann Arbor yeah, you nailed it. 

10:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Is she still covering the team? 

10:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
She does. Yeah, she's one of the on the Michigan beat. 

11:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There's like I'm trying to think there's a lot, there's a bunch. I'm trying to think there's a lot, sam Webb. 

11:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Sam Webb's always my favorite oh okay, where are you at? 

11:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
on USC Michigan and Alex Orji, and then we'll get to the Cam Rising news. 

11:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, the number is coming, keeps coming, keeps coming down Are you a part of it? 

11:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Are you a Go Blue? 

11:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, you know what I said at seven I would play. It Didn't get the sevens and now I just missed the boat and you got to be. That's one of those. Listen, that's the discipline of the business. I missed the boat, getting a little greedy. I'm not going to jump on it now With that. 

11:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jump on it now. 

11:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm ready to fight on. I mean, I know you've got a great usc position. I've got some not as good but usc positions. On this one, um from game of year lines I I wouldn't be looking to add just personally at. My recommendation would be, if it got towards three, which I don't think it'll get all the way down there, um, then I'd lean that way, it's four now. 

12:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, it's getting close. 

12:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
But here's the fundamental issue I don't believe that they're going to come out with an offense that maximizes the orgy skill set. And if they do and they prove me wrong and they win it, god bless Michigan man, I'll come on the show and root him on. But you can't tell me that that was the plan the whole off season and he ended up going with davis warren, who's like a you know, a broke boys game manager to start the year, and now we're gonna go to orgy and that's gonna fix everything because we're gonna do the offense we should have done in a week. We're gonna make I think it's just going to be the standard Michigan offense, with the new guy who's not going to be able to execute it. So I love the under, I love the 10, 10 gave out the under. We talked about it for you. I like the under. 

12:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Are we doing under 44 and a half? 

12:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You like it still at that number. 

12:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, remember, I am Mr Negative CLV this week week. I'm leaving it up to you. I'm just asking you under 44 and a half, I really pass on it. 

13:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I would, I, if it was I had a few in the chamber, so I don't I'm not going to rush it up. If it was 45, I'd say yes all right. 

13:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh no, he gave it out 46. All right, fair enough. Uh, I'll tell you, the old tout service is give a big drops of three tout. Then I'd fire. All right, fair enough. I'll tell you the old tout service a big drop to three. The tout service is giving out SC. I think they out-coach Michigan. I'm going to tell you Michigan's going to have to change coordinators at the end of this year to help out Jerome? 

13:38
No, I agree with you, you need an experienced college coordinator and you need the same on the defensive coordinator too. Uh, ocndc. He needs different guys there to help him out. The guys he's got right there not good enough. Cam rising, oh, as the world turns in, out in, out, in out. Where's he at? Is he going? Is he going to play or not? 

14:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I the? I mean the other night, so you're the blue horseshoe late. It all started with the blue horseshoe right, yeah, I did last night where he gives out oklahoma state and then people are like what's, he know, he's giving it out this late at night. I said this is a guy that gave out a cfl play not info related at four in the fucking morning so I don't. 

14:24
I'm not thinking. The blue horseshoe has this you know great pipeline into you know Utah program that he's sending out. And then people are telling me he didn't practice. Other people are telling me he didn't practice and not like randos, like people I talk to all the time trusted it. So gun to my head, I think he goes. How else is he? Can he throw the ball with the throwing hand? I don't know, but gun to my head, I think he's playing. Do I trust anything that comes out of that program? No, no. 

14:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, I haven't bet it. I'm not a part of the back and forth, I just sat back. I would be more interested in the Oklahoma State side if he gets ruled in and if it were to, I don't think it'll get there, but I I would be hoping for a three on oklahoma state. Other than that, I no interest. Did you do anything with the total? 

15:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, um was look. You know what when he was there was questionable. I I'll be honest with you. I'm on both sides of this game. 

15:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just oh, so you did play the game. So what do you got two and a half on both sides. 

15:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was like basically just information trading because I had some Utah early in the week. Then, you know, the panic alarms start firing. I come back on some Oklahoma State took some under. When the news is coming out Then it's like, oh, he's playing, so I don't know. 

15:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm hoping well, you're telling me as you wish you'd go back to 1995 and that this game would be a tie. Yeah, yes, yes, I need like a one-point victory either way. Okay, I? I don't think you're alone. I think there's a lot of people in that same boat. Uh, so I'll be rooting for that for everyone. So I mean anything against the sports book? Uh, burt, brownies in the chat. Uh, happy friday fellas. Right back at you, burt. Let's hear some thoughts about the Illinois Braski tilt tonight. 

16:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This has got a lot of back and forth. 

16:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Back and forth. Yeah, that is the market this year. Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. It's a lot of Illinois money. Today looks like Nebraska money coming back. I lean more towards the Illinois. It would definitely be a go for me at 10. Where are you at here? 

16:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What's your macro thoughts on just that in general, because you mentioned it a little bit, you know, a few minutes ago and then I thought of it seems like in a lot of games now, especially after we'll call it after the initial open happened, it's just bounce back and forth between key numbers. 

16:47
every game like every game there's a move, there's a back move, there's a move, there's a bad and it's there's no more like and this could be just the efficiency of the market in 2024. But you know, you get a seven, it's close to seven, it goes back to ten. It gets close to ten, it goes back to seven. It's just this seesaw in. This is a very small margin of you know, one and a half to two points. 

17:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's happening not just in this game across the board. And I wonder you know all the Friday moves. Just pay attention. I mean, if you really follow them, it just looks like they're picking off anything around a key number, that's. You know if it's 10 and a half you're taking the dog. 

17:22
If it's if it's nine and a half, you're laying the favorite. I just I, I don't know I, I told someone. I'm like, yeah, if I'm super common on a play, I'll fire early. But I'm wondering if you could just wait. Just wait till later. I never would have said this in a few years. Ah, the market's getting so efficient. I just wait around. I mean, sooner or later you're probably gonna end up getting the number you want on the game. Just because it's wild, swings it back and forth Outside waiting for 10 here. 

17:47
What were you at on this game? 

17:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I mean this is right on brand. It was a game at seven. I was looking for Nebraska it never. I think someone tried to really like push to get it there and I think there was a. Maybe juice sevens is as close as it got yeah, now it's back to nine and a half. I agree it's kind of a lay seven by ten type of thing, so I don't have a super strong opinion on this one I mean either. 

18:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think I'm not wild about either team. Uh, they're certainly. They're both in the ap top 25. They're not in mine, especially illinois. Uh, we'll learn a lot, because I'm not totally buying their big wins, the one over Kansas for Illinois and the one over to Colorado for Nebraska. So I'm looking for a slugfest. Obviously under was the play not at the current number. Let's keep it rolling. More Big Ten West here, or the division formerly known as the Big Ten West Patrick. Hey guys, happy Friday. Able to get Minnesota plus three. What do we think? We're taken. Thanks guys, have a good weekend. 

18:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, this is the anti-Iowa show here. I missed the three. It got to three and it got bought up real quick. 

19:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, it lasted about a day. 

19:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, maybe Joel Joey K is a little too slow. 

19:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If he's still got the three, take three. 

19:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, that was a move. 

19:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Today the doctor had that one today. He's been pretty good. So, yeah, three. Honestly, that would be another game where I'd love three and a half. I'd lay two and a half, type of thing. That's all this is feels like this year. Uh, another super chat, adam with the super chat. At what temperature? Fahrenheit? Uh, this isn't I love you had to clarify forward progress. 

19:37
Does it become okay to throw uh on that first saturday pot of chili? Lingering summer in the southwest, uh us, am I chasing? If I throw on a pot tomorrow, you would be more. You're more in the neck of the woods for that. 

19:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I mean it's, it's, it's 80, 80 plus year in the Midwest, he's in the South. But, adam, I tell you what patience is a virtue. My man and I'll tell you you wait a little bit. I know you want that chili, I know you want it bad. You just let it marinate a little bit maybe, maybe season some meat and put it away in a free. You know some something where you can store a little dry rub on there, something that takes a few weeks to cure. I don't really know, I don't. I don't cook, but I don't know that. And the second it gets a little brisk. You know it hits that 65 or something you know. Know, especially in the Southwest, you know it's 60. People are acting like if you're in Antarctica, then you throw that chili on the pot throw a little extra sauce in there, then you'll be loving it. 

20:32
If you make the chili while it's still a little too hot, it's hot outside, you're sweating it. No, no, yeah, you got. Just wait it out. 

20:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know it's coming, just be patient my man, you'll enjoy it more when, uh, it's a little bit more brisk, more I think about it, I think it's okay to do it saturday I'm here, I'm in the side, depends, I mean, I'm in vegas. So when's the last time you made? 

20:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
chili in vegas? Never, no, I I never. 

21:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, if you're into that sort of thing. I mean I haven't ate it since my mom. I got my mom's homemade back in the day, so I I'm. I just never felt like eating chili here, it just, but it has been unseasonally chilly. Uh, I have so much. I mean I'm wearing long sleeves. 

21:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You got a zip up on yeah, I mean, it's the temp. 

21:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The lows in the morning have been like 68, 69. So fall is here, uh, after our hottest summer ever on record. No exaggeration, hottest summer ever. That was an interesting super chat. Uh, I, I know in your neck of the woods late September, I know it's been warmer there, late September, october. Oh, there's nothing better than some chili on a Saturday afternoon. Another, uh, uh super chat, mr D, best one, two, three. Thank you for the dollar there. Uh, that, uh, I wonder if Zach, did you still get them dollar shots? And when I was in college we used to have like 50 cent uh, 50 cent uh, thursday nights at the oh yeah, the. 

22:01
I mean it wasn't like a big draft, but it was like little BG Thursday night shooters for 50 cents. Yeah, I mean you'd buy a tray of them. I mean we were drinking. 

22:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I can tell you that what was this question for the Zach Bullock Put it out it's going to bet Syracuse and come back on bet Sanford at a barrel line. Well, mickey D, I mean you hope it works out that way. I have some Sy, some circus in this game too. Um, yeah, I mean, that's one of those. You know what, if they get out to a good start, score a couple early, you want to come in some sanford live then yeah, but it doesn't always work out that way. Baby, someday now you get an early stand turnover stanford touchdown, and now you're now that, now that you know, that plan is up in smoke. But I laid a little circus here, nothing crazy. 

22:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I played a little Stanford in the game. So, but again, numbers with a double digit next to it, current number, I lean over. Honestly, I like what I've seen from a court. I like their weapons. At the skill position I think Stanford is certainly more offensive driven, so over for me. Don't have to worry about whether anything inside the dome over that would be my preference. That's what I gave out as the lean of the night to the top clients Rolling through here. Time here, sorry, here, sorry, teaks. Lean best bet pass aka FMK short favorites edition. Auburn to pain TCU. I like that, I was. 

23:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm going to FKF. 

23:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Wasn't it, isn't it? Is it, fmk? I mean? 

23:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
he, just, he, just, he got the nomenclature mixed up but that's what threw me a little bit. 

23:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Where are you at? Uh, I um boy, I originally bet Auburn. I would say Arkansas is probably the sharpest play of the week. Would you agree with that? That? I mean, everyone's lining up on arkansas there. We like tcu out of the bunch. Yeah, that's in fact that's best bet. Tcu money line was the best bet on monday yeah, I agree. 

24:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, like bet tcu would uh probably lean two lane and pass on auburn I still lean auburn, especially at the current number two and a half. 

24:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I will say multiple groups with influence Love them, razorbacks, I don't. I'm not buying them. Jimmy S, are we sure Virginia Tech doesn't sink Like Rutgers getting over three with a great run game? Defense should travel well. Also, coaching edge Well, three-letter service loves Rutgers. Been one-way action all week, I would. I would be interested in virginia tech at three. I didn't play rutgers, so are you part of the rutgers money? 

24:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, I played some rutgers earlier um what have you seen, though? 

24:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
who have they played? 

24:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean even listen cali acmanis I know we're going to go back to the off season Callie McManus thing, has it I? I like here's. Here's what I'll say. I think Virginia tech has come in under expectation and that that would be my. Of the two teams here, I think Rutgers is a little bit what we thought they'd be. They have a very good roster with a very below average quarterback. That probably puts a ceiling on what they can do in the season and in any game. Offensively. Virginia Tech I thought would be significantly better this year and it doesn't seem to play out that way. A loss to Vandy, a game against Marshall, who sucks, and Old Dominion, who I don't think is very and neither none of those games inspired a ton of confidence in me to think that Virginia Tech is the team that I thought they would be coming into the season. So I played some Rutgers. I think it was four and a half or something. At three and a half I'd still lean that way. There you go. 

25:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yep three and a half, I would bet Virginia Tech at three. Three, that's where I'm at. Zach bowman uh, ready for a bounce back weekend? Uh, we hope so, because last week wasn't fun. Why do I want to take big blue tomorrow? Let's hear it kanish. Big blue as in uh, the, the maize and blue. Well, I mean it. Well, it could be big blue, kentucky could be dod. 

26:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'd rather give you that. Yeah, I'd rather take Kentucky than Big Blue. I just, Zach, I think we're well, I'm going to tell you you know numbers matter. We always tell you on this show and we're kind of late to the party. If you want to bet Michigan, it was six and a half for most of the week, then down to six and down to five and down to four at some places now. So I would at some places now. So I, I would wait to get involved live. That would be my bet. If you can get michigan over to also see what they're doing on off. You know, I I want to see if I'm going to believe michigan can compete and win this game. The offense better look different. If alex orgy is under center trying to drop back and throw slants, I'm out. I'm out on the season. 

27:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You're out on the season. 

27:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, then we might be going five and seven. 

27:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, I mean I'll let you know, did I see their win totals like at seven right now? 

27:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it's like ah, I saw some seven and a half. Yeah, that's what I was looking at. So I mean we'll know a lot more tomorrow. I wish that game was at noon so we could do a halftime. I could tell you that. 

27:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, what game are we doing? 

27:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What game are we doing at noon tomorrow? You know what? Did Moreto send that message? Or did Phillips, because I try and ignore whatever Moreto sends. But, if Zach said that, then I apologize. You want to do? 

27:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
a noon game right. 

27:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, the noon slate is not that, that's garbage yeah. Oh, boy, do you? 

27:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
want to do NC State Clemson. 

27:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

27:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Or Kansas West Virginia. I think Kansas West Virginia is a good game. We'll do one there. We'll give it to the end of the show. We'll tease it. End of the show. You make the call. All right On that. We're not going to do the big noon kickoff. Marshall, Ohio State. I'm not watching that, I'm sorry. I agree. 

28:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm not watching what I will be. 

28:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know, this is a game probably be on one of my TVs tomorrow Georgia Tech. Louisville Carter's asking Georgia Tech plus 10.5. Louisville hasn't played anyone yet. I think they might be looking ahead at that Notre Dame game next week. Yeah, game next week. Yeah, I hear you. But I'm actually on the other side. I like louisville, uh, reason being they're off a buy, so I hope they're not looking ahead when, when they had a buy last weekend, man georgia tech's already playing their fifth straight game. Uh, louisville. For me especially, I think it's like 10 now. Um, yeah, we can pull up a fan. No, 10 and a half, never mind, I thought it was 10 today. I thought I moved back to 10. 

28:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's some 10s out there, even some cheap 10s. 

28:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Moreto says the Marshall game. I mean, does he want to keep talent or not? I mean, you want to watch that game? 

28:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, that's the one. No, I think Zach's saying that's the one. He suggested the oh, that's the one that. No, I think Zach's saying that's the one he suggested the worst game on the slate. That's what, moreno, you know the C-level wants us to do. 

29:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's what people are going to tune in for when Ohio State's up 35-0. Are they going to take out the starters? You know how much is Julian Sane going to play? 

29:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come on, we'll do we'll let you decide, all right, but no, I mean, I'm with you. I think, kind of Louisville, louisville's, I think Louisville's really good and I didn't think they would kind of carry it over year to year I'm higher on them than I was to start the season and this Georgia Tech it's been a blunder and you know what, and maybe it's too early to factor that in, but five straight weeks, third roadie and an international trip made in there versus a team that's played a couple of cupcakes and a bye, I think Louisville is a good spot. Again, I don't try to do too much on the spot, but listen, I think minus 10 or better is good. 

29:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree, totally agree with that. I like Louisville. I don't want them to be too good this week. If you catch my drift for next week's game, I think you've already bet the game. 

30:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I did. 

30:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You can look at this. I'm just saying I don't want Louisville to go out and beat Georgia Tech by five touchdowns. Then we're not going to get enough value next week. I like Louisville outright next week. They're going to be an underdog. Shuler Shiler I'm sorry if I'm mispronouncing that More questions, man. This Michigan-USC game is going to get a hell of a rating. Judging by our chat. We've pretty much said about the move here Jaden Davis this season. Are we going to see him or no? Nope. 

30:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Part of the deal him coming to michigan was he would redshirt his freshman year because he's really skinny. They wanted him to go through a year of the weight program. His dad was in on it and he didn't want to be thrown out there like because they didn't have anybody. If he won the job or something they would do it. So no, they're keeping them on ice all year. They're going to roll with orgy Tuttle. I don't fucking know. I think supposedly it's a pain tolerance thing. If they get, I think in a pinch could he go out there Maybe. I don't think he can really practice and the programs like if you don't practice you don't play, type of thing that was the thing under Harbaugh which they've kept. 

31:24
So, boy, they missed mr harbaugh. Yeah, oh, boy, I tell you, I'm watching chargers games, you know, with a box of kleenex next to me. So, yeah, they miss him. Bad already. 

31:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So what's going on with that one? Herbert not gonna play. 

31:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know. Just just a random high ankle sprain that came up. I don't know. 

31:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So, my god, there goes my teaser on them. What the hell. Oh, my God, there goes my teaser on them. What the hell, what a mess. Similar, brandon. Yeah, we kind of handled the Cam Rising thing. It's been going on for years, though People even forget. Two years ago, obviously. Last year was an entire debacle. But two years ago, remember that Friday night game against Washington State? I mean, market had no idea, just all of a sudden, five minutes, a kickoff. He's a scratch, unbelievable. Uh, bert, yeah, we talked about the illinois. Uh, nebraska game. Uh, just, you know, back and forth there, like most of the games, rw fan 23. Thoughts on tulsa plus three and a half. Yeah, I'm with you on that. On that number, I am, yep, I agree, I think. Uh, is it three and a half? Let's check. 

32:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Fan duel oh yeah, what do we got? 

32:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet it's gonna be two and a half but if it's a three and a half, let's check FanDuel. 

32:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh yeah, what do we got? I bet it's going to be two and a half, but if it's a three and a half we're locking it. 

32:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There we go. 

32:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There we go. 

32:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Boom. 

32:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There we go. 

32:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Best bet. 

32:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
One of the day, baby yeah. 

32:38
I mean listen, tent gave out, I think, three on Tulsa. I like three on Tulsa. I think Tulsa's significantly improved and La Tech sucks. I mean they're just. I don't think there's much between these teams. To be honest with you. And listen, I know through, look, they were up on NC State for a half there, but NC State looks absolutely miserable. So yeah, I just think Tulsa's better than what I thought coming into the year. And again they went to Oklahoma State was a little above their level. They got trucked. But now give me three and a half. 

33:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Our chat is. I'm just just. I obviously pull behind the curtain. Zach stars a bunch of he pulls like that the stuff, so I don't have to sit through. I can't believe how live our our comment section is. I'm just scrolling. Holy cow, there's hundreds, so I feel bad through those of you that don't get a mask. Uh, my goodness. Uh well, we appreciate everyone that's watching. Uh, charles, also in the chat, any conference futures we've been eyeing. Uh, mr sun devil 75 to 1, uh indiana 30 to 1 to make the playoffs where you at on those um I don't, I don't think they're terrible I the arizona state one I can get behind. 

34:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think they win. But I mean I don't mind it, especially at that price. The Indiana to make the playoff is a no for me, I'm just. 

34:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Really, have you seen the schedule Dog in one game? I will say that the negative is they will not get the benefit of the doubt if they're 10 and 2. I think they got to go 11. No, they won't. 

34:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And I mean this is a team that's played FIU, one of the five worst teams in FBS, western Illinois, maybe the worst team in FCS, and a UCLA team that's an absolute corpse. And now they're Cupcake and Charlotte. So I agree, the schedule is pretty light. 

34:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think there's going to be an opportunity to play against them coming up. Market loves Indiana. I hope they kill Charlotte. Charlotte's playing a third-string quarterback. There's going to be an opportunity in an upcoming week. 

34:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We did play a little Charlotte this week. 

34:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, you're going to trust in Trexler Ivy. 

34:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He's better than the true freshman they had in there yeah that's true. 

35:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't think Biff is going to be there long. 

35:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think this is it for him. I tell you what Maybe he should come back to Michigan, Biff, Because I mean. I don't know what I mean. I agree. 

35:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's not going well, Chris in the chat. Did we do anything in A&M BG? You like BG, I like A&M. Did we go head-to-head here? 

35:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Did we go? I mean, I played, we went head-to-head. 

35:26 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A bunch of games on Monday. We missed Monday's show. 

35:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Pull up the head-to-head. I bet some BG, but at a number you can't get anywhere. It's like 24 and a half. So to be honest with like where we got it on the head to head. 

35:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You got utah holy cow, I got oklahoma state. 

35:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There we go there madison utah, well yeah you know, I don't know well, I've let you know before game time f you want to go ahead to head here, let's pull up. 

35:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, fando on this one, I like a and m I'm going four and one this week and those four and one also here. Don you don't want to go anymore head to head? Um no, it kept coming in on bg. I thought I was gonna get 21. 

36:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I understand it, best team in the mac in a decade. So um, but I can't. I listen. I I'll be honest with you. I fight. It was a 24 nothing buy for me on this game and I was able to get it all right and I wasn't going under that. 

36:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I wouldn't even play it at 23 yeah, I made it 24, so I laid 22. I just come on BG's last game. I know they almost beat Penn State but they're catching 35. I think we bet above 35 in that one on a neutral field, penn State laying almost two touchdowns I mean 12 or 13 against A& you're betting a m, I know. I just I don't think the value with bg was on the penn state game. Uh, matt thoughts on lsu to cover. I love lsu. Market hates the pick. Uh, it's moved against us big time. I apologize, gave out a really bad number. 

36:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's embarrassing for me but I like lsu I mean I only especially at where it's at a current. I know the UCLA's money's coming hot and heavy, but why, though? 

37:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Why I? The Hawaii game is not aged well at all. I mean, you can start. I mean. You know, Delaware State lost to Wagner as a 10 point favorite. So I mean Hawaii might be really really bad and UCLA almost lost to Wagner as a 10 point favorite. So I mean Hawaii might be really really bad and UCLA almost lost to Hawaii. 

37:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know I don't. 

37:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean and Indiana? Okay, the Indiana killed him. We just got done saying we don't know how Indiana is good, how good, though. That's why you gave Indiana a better game. 

37:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean this is if you're. 

37:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's why you gave Indiana. Indiana had score late to get to that one, the 31-7,. I think yeah. 

37:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They gave they're sitting back this weekend too. Who's one of their better receivers? So? 

37:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know. I mean, this is the bottom of the market, though on. 

37:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
LSU, like there's 20, I know. 

37:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah. 

37:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's some 21s. 

38:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There's some 21s. There's a lot of anti-LSU in the market. I get it. 

38:07 - Zack Phillips (Guest)
But I think they turned their season around. Last week they found a running back a freshman running back. 

38:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Hell man, they're on the road, they're down 17. They outscored South Carolina by 20 points in the final 40 minutes of that game. South Carolina is far superior to UCLA. I know you don't want to do all that. I mean whatever. It screams 42. I know you don't want to do all that. I mean whatever I just did Screams 42-14 to me. Matt BYU plus seven, with Kansas State off an ISO spot against Arizona. Revenge game against Oklahoma State on deck. 

38:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where you at here, I like it, I like it. I'm on the Cougs at seven, so what's current on that one, zach? 

38:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Six and a half. 

38:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, that's what I thought you. What's current on that one, Zach Six and a half yeah, that's what I thought you want. That seven yeah, you do, and there are some around, so I figured FanDuel would be at the six and a half. Yeah. Yeah, so we can't lock it in for the bet, but there's some sevens out there If you have a seven. 

38:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet the seven. Bob asked about Houston plus three and a half. Well, Bob, we gave out Houston on the Monday show. Four and a half, yeah, I believe. 

39:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I like that play where we're sitting. 

39:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Is that part of the money? Keep in mind, we'll tease a little bit for the next 20 minutes from now. Is that part of the money line? Has that got a shot to be in there or no? 

39:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's maybe got a shot. We'll have to see. But uh, there was some, you know, other some and especially after last week, wherever you know. Now, of course, again, I go cheap on the money lines. Last week I should have went uh, could have had an 800 to one if I would have put a couple of teams in last week. That went out right. But, um, yeah, I mean I, I think we're getting the better team. We broke this one down a lot more on monday, but I think we're getting the better team. We broke this one down a lot more on Monday, but I think we're getting the better team. Even at three and a half To me I wouldn't be interested in Cincinnati unless this got closer to a round pick. 

39:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Charles, wow, you want to know why it's tough to beat the market. Look at this Weather brewing in the southeast next week For openers. Will you pass on those games with uncertainty? Or still far away? 

40:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't even think about it, really, uh chuck, I think weather a week out is so dicey in like you got. The only thing I would say is, if a big hurricane type thing is coming, maybe you play unders early with the thought that people are just going to overreact to it and play back later yeah, or just play that yeah like because most of this weather stuff not like the whole lightning strike thing and the moving of game times has kind of made it where, like they don't really play in horrible conditions anymore no, they don't. 

40:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I just, unless it's like a known hurricane with a known path, then I'll do it. You know, even then I mean I kind of prefer four or five days, probably in advance, instead of seven. I just I bet. I've been down there in that road several years ago when I'm just looking for winners and just want to bet, blindly betting stuff. I don't do that anymore. It's just it could be very hit or miss Corporate Kanish Scott anymore. It's just it could be very hit or miss corporate knish scott says it's time for that I've got. 

41:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Maybe you know what, maybe I'll wear a suit next week, uh, to the show office here. 

41:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So you got a hard out, yeah you keep keeping those hashtags coming do you have a hard out at five? Uh, no, we can go a little long, all right, making sure we want to get to that money line round robin. What do you think of Texas to win the SEC? I'm not there yet. I still think there's a lot of good freaking teams in the SEC. 

41:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I tell you, I agree with you. You know what. Some of them, because I was looking at a few weeks ago do I want to add some Tennessee or some Missouri? And it's just like there's so many freak like I I think this is the first. I mean, how many years in the sec do you think that, legitimately, like six teams can win it, like georgia, texas, bama, old miss tennessee, missouri, I think can all win the conference? 

41:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
um, I don't know. It's a new day and age. It's a new day, so. 

42:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't want to lay 260 when I think six teams can legitimately win it. Yeah so yeah, I agree, I just think the price is too short. Do I think Texas, maybe? I mean, could you make a little argument that Texas should be a slight favorite at the moment over Georgia? Maybe, but I don't want to bet 260. 

42:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
DDH3, thoughts on Central Michigan. My six and a half on this week. Two misleading calls, the first two weeks in a row Not fully baked on the line. Where are you at? On that one, I'm going to attack this game, but more in the derivative market. 

42:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Not widely available. I don't know Central Michigan, I've got people dming me the quarterbacks on the take is that why there's like more than? 

42:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
is that joking, or is that why I? 

42:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
honestly, I don't know, because it came from those people who didn't know each other. Uh, do I think that's, you know, like occam's razor? Do I think that's real? 

43:04
no, but I mean, there's been some weird market moves with central michigan this year there has been so I, unless I got a real strong opinion at like here that the old doyle brunson line, if you can't spot the sucker at the table, baby, then you're gonna. You, if I don't know the info that's moving these central lines, I'm staying away. You get up from the table and walk away so. 

43:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not going to get involved in the derivative market now, just because of what you said worries me. I think ball States defense is horrific. 

43:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I if listen under a TD normal circumstances, I would bet some central and people have I mean the line's up a little bit. 

43:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'd bet central last week. Look what happened. They made sure that game fell right on the 21, didn't they. So it worries me. Charles. In the chat, Joey Props, give us an Arch same-game parlay baby. Oh, the old Arch, sgp we're we're we're head to head on that game. I'm Mr Arch Manning this week. He hates arts Dan dual has a Zach. 

44:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
See, if you, if you've got this in your Ontario one, they've got an arch Manning tab Like he's got his own tab for the games is like like you know, yeah, Like a games win totals, like conferences they got an. Arch Manning tab oh my God Maybe not in Ontario, because you know Canadian people don't know. You know what college football is. But yeah, here I got an Arch Manning tab for the Michigan layout Boy. I tell you that passing yards 292 is, that is rich. 

44:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's a little steep, isn't it? That's a little steep, isn't it. 

44:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's a little steep. You know what, if I was being, I would. I think I don't know how much late you know it's I don't have it Cause does arch get more time because they want to, you know that's the whole question. Do they pull them or do they play them? Go back to yours. You know when he's in, and I think it's going to be next week, so do they give him three, three and a half quarters in this one, to just run it up. 

45:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So and that's ultimately where you land on the spread. How much the arch plays. 

45:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, for sure. 

45:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So I'm interested in some Joey props Any from your boy franchise I got it. 

45:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Let me see the line. But you know what I did bet this, but about this week, I hope the 10th's watching. I took some viewers heisman 20 to 1. What do you think about? That, yeah, wow, I think he's back next week and he's gonna be chalk I don't know, I really think something. 

45:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, 20. Yeah, 20. Where'd you get it? 20 to one. Yeah, all right, I can see that I just want to take this one. I'll be asking you some questions where you got that? Yeah, it makes I. I shouldn't be hedging yet though, but that's the only guy I don't have at the top. 

46:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't have them either. 

46:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And again at the top I didn't have them either. And again now. Now, if this is a three-week injury and I'm wrong, it's dead. So yeah, they said it's late and so we'll see. 21 is a pretty good price, so it's all number dependent, I don't. I mean, yeah, I think you did good there. 

46:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Good job, tip of the hat, got got. I need to talk, guy, do we? We didn't go out of that Memphis Navy where you at. 

46:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I wanted to bet Navy. Numbers matter. I don't have the right number. I'm on Memphis, on the power ratings. I haven't bet it yet, but you know, old school, old school, 1998, handicapping says Navy, but I mean the number's not there. So I mean I would lean Memphis. I'm going to tell you Memphis, I watched the Memphis Florida State game. I mean I would lean Memphis. I'm going to tell you Memphis, I watched the Memphis Florida State game. There's a little more to something to this Memphis team this year. I mean they're using play action. I mean it's not gimmicky, I mean they're using play action of the tight ends, they're playing defense. I think most Memphis teams the last four or five years I'd say yep, navy. 

47:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Navy live to win it? 

47:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yep, not this year's Memphis team. So I'm leaning Memphis when you at Me too. 

47:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Give me a best bet, baby. 

47:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Under 10. Wow, there you go. Strong, super strong there. 

47:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You can get a little bit better price out there. So we always say shop around, but under 10 was the number I was looking for. And we always say shop around, but under 10 was the number I was looking for. And I played some under 10 this week. So some guys who I bet you know, chat there's some guys I'm in group chat with. They all like Navy at over 10. But I think this Navy team, this one's like the spot the spot, the spot, the spot. I think this Navy team sucks and it's a Memphisphis team. I agree they're feisty on defense. Some of their defensive metrics, especially on the run, are the best they've been in since. I don't even know when, and I think the offense got a little bit. I got more juice. I think these teams are like way in terms of talent. The separation here is too much for me. So I know this is like a spot, spot, spot, spot. Great big victory over florida state navy's. You know a couple cupcakes here the spot. 

48:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Give me the tigers spots why it's nine and a half. I mean that's already priced in. Come on folks. I mean I was looking at navy, yeah, like 13 or 14. And it never was there. Uh, freezing the chat, no relation to hugh. I don't think I wouldn't be shocked to see miami beat south florida by 30. Also wouldn't be shocked if they went in the four tight at 17. Well, I'd be shocked at that. That's a little low scoring there. Uh, where you see this game landing, I'm more on the dog. That's just where I'm at here yeah, I leaned that way. 

48:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I do know some, some guys, you know some strict numbers guys, model guys that that bet miami once it got to like some cheap 17. So I think they're, and I think some of the model s simply 17, fire them. 

49:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They could have bet 16 and a half for a day yeah, there was some. 

49:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, there you go some yeah, there you go, fire them people uh, so I mean I think some of the again, this is a little bit of a UCLA LSU type of thing where the numbers had UCLA much lower, but what you've seen so far in the season says it should be higher. This one, your model stuff, is going to have, I think, miami a little higher what you've seen so far. I think I would lean South Florida as well at 17, but I would not play under 17. But I didn't get really involved here. 

49:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet South Florida obviously above 17. Yeah, 16 and a half, no interest. Brad S thoughts on Penn state over 55 and a half. I never got there but I certainly would lean that way. It's just what's going to be their mentality. 

49:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, if he wants to cover, yeah, I don't know, ken state has reached a level that even in like the the lol ken state days that I didn't know was possible, um, they're like a below average fcs team at the moment. So yeah, they, they are. I don't know. 

50:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean I just I don't think they're going to score, so it's all. 

50:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think so either. Right there, it's just so. 

50:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
now I can be happy. 50 to nothing, 49. No, they had that line. 49, nothing. 

50:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He knows the point spread so yeah, I agree, I got a little bit of this game, but we got to go to it because I'm best betting it. All right, Zach, give me Buffalo, Northern Illinois. 

50:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I return to the Mac. 

50:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know where I'm going, baby. 

50:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree with this one, this one's live. 

50:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This one is like and it's what is live and a 13, 13 and a half. I think that's one of the best numbers you can get. I bet some 14. I'm fine with it at 13 and a half too. Block that in best bet. 

50:58
I think Buffalo listen, this is a Northern Illinois. Everybody's riding high off the Notre Dame. Great victory, historic victory. This team, this is not a team who's going to get margin at two touchdowns of margin on that style they play I just don't like. It's a whole like we want to go slow tempo, run the ball, all that. Like how they beat Notre Dame in a grinder. That's not the type of team you want to back, cause it too touched on favorite and Buffalo has just been better at significant coaching upgrade. My boy Mo linguists, uh, you know what. Maybe you should go back. It probably better served as a secondary coach. But I like what they've done in the coaching upgrade. They're better than advertised. I think they're alive in this game and I like it a lot at 13, or better At 13 and a half. It's a fire, 14, a fire, 13, a fire. I like that quite a bit. 

51:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Good bet, love that bet, love it, love it. I Love that, bet, love it, love it. I just was wondering where the no anti-Buffalo money this week. So that should tell you a lot. Greg love the show, hate the portfolio. Yep Hated that last pick on Buffalo, hated it. Does Michigan State get back the plus seven or do I just grab plus six and a half while available? I don't know. 

52:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is a fascinating market game. Yeah, red bandana week, throw out the record books. 

52:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh is it red bandana game? 

52:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I believe so yeah, I can't bet. 

52:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Michigan State. 

52:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
at that number, then Michigan State, again Michigan State. I think we were wrong. They are improved Better in the season. I thought Jonathan Smith already doing his work. They've got some key injuries already on a team that does not have a lot of depth, so but I I mean I'd lean that if it hits seven, snap it up, because I think there'll be a lot of you'll be after watching the screen on that one, because I think you'll have buyers at seven I did bet michigan state number not available. 

52:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did bet under uh as well, number no longer available. Probably some correlation there, but I didn't know. His red bandana, oof, that's, that's a big, that's that's pretty big. There kyle in the chat, san jose state tonight. Yeah, I lean that way. We saw a little bit of money. 

53:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know, come in on washington state though, where you at there uh, I filled some 12 for uh a guy I bet with um earlier today, um, but I'm not. I'm not in love with it personally. Uh, I just think this wazoo defense is. I don't like laying that kind of number. Uh and san jose state they've been better than I thought this year like much better than I thought. 

53:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They haven't played anybody, but they took care of business in all three yeah, so I'm I kind of lean the other way. 

53:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like san jose state agree. 

53:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If it ever got to 14, who knows what the market that's definitely that's best bet material there. I don't. 

53:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think we're gonna see it again sellers is announced out and the chat says and this, but I thought this was. 

53:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was pretty I thought it was. 

53:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It was already like it's news, but I thought I mean this was pretty kind of known for the week I just what's it down to now 26, 25. There's some, yeah, 26 and a half. I see one 25 and a half, yeah, some 27. So Total's awfully low. Yeah, I, I mean, I don't know, akron is Akron's defenses and I think the South Carolina that's what I mean. 

54:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm kind of leaning over. Akron's defense is no good. I mean they gave up 49 to Rutgers. 

54:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree with you. 

54:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There must have been. Someone gave out the under because it moved three points the other day. I just think that's low. And then if South Carolina is sleepy, I mean mean on defense, they might give up a score or something. I don't know. I I'm not involved. Are you involved? 

54:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
cider total yet no, but I might be here, uh, soon oh so south carolina I mean, I would lean that way and and with you on the over now. 

55:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
In terms of uh, if I get flat 41, I'm in yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm looking that one ticks down any further, that'll be a tout service release. Eat that Army minus six rice. 

55:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where you at on this one, I bet Army early in the week, ugh rice is oh boy, I swung and a miss on rice last week and I tell you they look now. Granted, this is a much, much different, outright, yeah, uh, dog's bargain much, much different. I mean they were out-athleted versus houston and out-talented in that game. 

55:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Totally different here, you see that number yeah, yeah, I do, I mean numbers matter. That's why I said whoa Rice sucks. They're awful, they got an out athlete against Houston. 

56:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I give you a best bet on Rice. 

56:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's how much numbers matters, folks. I mean, they suck. I hate this team, this and that Seven and a half. Give me Rice, yeah. 

56:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are we? 

56:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
best banded or no? 

56:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I'm god damn it yeah, I'm better into my phone as we speak. Uh, I don't think rice is any good, but I can't get to seven and a half years. 

56:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I can't get there either that I I bet army early in the week but I I can't get to seven and a half year. I can't get there either. I've been army early in the week but I can't get above seven. I thought, yeah, I'm in the four range. So there you go. This leads in. Well, touchdown my pants. Mississippi State money line has to be in the money line round robin right Without further ado, without further ado. 

56:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Without further ado, let's get to the Moneyline round robin right, Without further ado. You want to do without further ado. 

56:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Without further ado, let's get to the Moneyline round robin. That's what people have been waiting an hour for not to see my ugly mug. 

57:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Chad, chad's begging us not to take rice Too late. Baby, I'm in again. This is the new Kent State. Rice is the new Kent State. I'm going to keep going to the well, going to the well. I don't know who they play next week, but we'll be getting a great numbers winning. They don't cover this week. Uh, zach, fire me up. Baby on the money line, round robin. 

57:23
oh yeah you know, who's been there, you know, um, listen, numbers wise, do I think there's. There's like, if you, if you just played this game, are they terrible? Yes, could. Is it potentially that Florida has quit and doesn't show up? Yes, um, so I mean, that's the ultimate game you want in a round robin, right? A high variance game, a bunch of different outcomes? Wouldn't surprise me Mississippi State lost by 30. Wouldn't surprise me Florida didn't show up and lost by 30. Home game here for Mississippi State. I like them better, you know. I mean after, oh boy, after that Toledo. So, yeah, put them in the round robin. 

58:02
Jmu listen, I'm not a North Carolina believer. I know where me and BP had to add on this one. I just I don't believe in what they have going. Thinks James Madison is again a little bit of a variance game here. The way North Carolina has to win too is like all on the ground where you know like, hey, we're going to play ugly football, we're not going to throw. It Leads to a little bit more potential there for the dog Scroll down. You know what we are. We just talked about it Buffalo 365. That one's coming down because we just, yeah, the odds are we're losing, blah, blah, you know, we're going underwater here because we're betting Buffalo and that's reacting, but that is I don't think we're underwater and 119 to one odds, yeah yeah, but I know we were at. 

58:45
we were at 136 to start the show. But that one, I tell you what for as far as a double digit money line dog of the week, that is one I really like this week in terms of a live, just the way Northern Illinois plays. Think Buffalo is better than advertised and you know I had to throw them in there. I think we are just diametrically opposed on this game. I think Florida Atlantic got a little got right last week for his FAU. I just think the only unit in this game that I think is any good is the FAU defense. I'm not buying it with Connecticut. Give me FAU. On the money line there's our four money 0 for 4 last week, 3 for 4 week 1. 3 for 4 week 2. 0 for 4. Swing and a miss last week. Let's get back a couple of juicy prices in. There'll take two for four, three for four. Uh, one of these we're gonna get them on. 

59:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
four for four, baby yeah, if we get, I hope it's three for four. This also personal reasons, uh, if you are in the us. 

59:43 - Zack Phillips (Guest)
Right now it's not available in canada and you pull up your mobile should be on web as well. Hit the books parlay pre-built on the fanduel app. You will see it there it's built hit the books on the app. 

59:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Why don't they? You know what? When are we getting on with Kay Adams? They'll put our parlay on there, but they won't get me on with Kay. 

01:00:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Is she your type? 

01:00:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think she's everybody's type. I got it. I mean, is she not your type, wouldn't she be? 

01:00:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, a little too thin for me. 

01:00:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I hear you there. It's the Midwest country and the show coming out here. So yeah, yeah, it is a little bit. I'm sorry. Yeah, ecu, we got to talk. Ecu Liberty People keep asking about it. 

01:00:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we got to talk. Ecu Liberty People keep asking about it. Yeah, we've got to talk about that. What's another embarrassing performance by me giving out East Carolina Obviously the all-everything cornerbacks out for ECU. I think the other thing that happened last night the lost to have. State that looked too good. They failed to cover by six touchdowns Markets son and I'll agree Market's appropriately betting liberty today. 

01:00:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep. 

01:00:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But I'll tell you this had I not given out similar to LSU, if it was sitting here on a Friday and I was looking to give out plays, east Carolina, probably at seven and a half, would be I'd be interested in. Lsu at minus 21 ish, I'd be interested in. So LSU at minus 21 ish, uh, I'd be interested in. So I wasn't betting the other side. Where are you at here, you? You like Liberty. I mean, it was an anti Liberty play to begin with. 

01:01:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, if it, when it got down, if you, if you told me it was minus five, five and a half where it got for a bit, then sure, but I, I'm with you now, I wouldn't lay it at seven and a half. I think there is some potential. East Carolina, the offense comes together, one of these games they have. They have not been efficient at all, but I think there's some possibility it comes together. Yeah, liberty, just, I don't know, man just doesn't look, just doesn't look right there so far this year, at least not what we expected. So maybe they get right and smash east carolina here. But I don't know, I can't, I could never lay seven right now with how they're, how they've looked so far maybe this is the game. 

01:02:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jake garcia doesn't throw three interceptions, yeah so, and cooley might not play for liberty. I mean, he's a pretty good running back yeah uh, dane, super chat. 

01:02:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh-oh, dollar 99 was wondering if there's any joey props I can fade I know, listen, I know, I know, I know dane uh a little too well here and he's been, uh, he's, I got. I meant to get greg uh, greg's redemption week after he got cucked on the van dyke play last week. Um, that was another bad beat for us, jesus. That was a real bad beat. I'll tell you what during halftime tomorrow. This is a real bad beat. I'll tell you what during halftime tomorrow. This is a real professional teaser. Here we'll, uh, we'll have a joey prop. 

01:02:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I guarantee halftime what is the halftime game? Have you decided? I've given you an hour I've decided we're going with. 

01:02:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Let's go nc state Clemson. 

01:02:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I think it's a good choice Cause we get a feel for the NC state backup and who knows what Clemson and someone was Charles in the chat. What do you do with Clemson after the funeral and Boone last night? Well, we seen it was started before the funeral. We saw some buyback on NC state. 

01:03:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, and I I can see it, because that Clemson offense hasn't looked like that in, you know, four years since T-Law was running back, and so I think that had a little bit more to do with the App State defense. So yeah, and I mean CJ Bailey with the way McCall was playing. 

01:03:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I told you about that, bailey, and at the time you can pull up the Saturday show. 

01:03:41
We do well, we don't do anything and we just like oh, we'll give out this and that, and then just the stuff we're talking about. Oh, I like North Dakota and the FCS. Oh, cj Bailey. I, you know, I liked the kid, didn't even we should have looked up the odds. We could have had him in the comeback when they were down at the time Unbelievable. Yeah, I think he's better than expected. A couple more and then we're going to shut it down. Kanisha's got to go. He's got a corporate meeting. Cal Florida State. That's getting a lot of play on Twitter and social media. 

01:04:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't bet Sider total. 

01:04:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You got nothing. 

01:04:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I got nothing. 

01:04:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got nothing. I got nothing, I got nothing either Got nothing. 

01:04:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know, I can't, I just don't know. 

01:04:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think it's a good game to end game live. You'll know if Florida State's got it or not immediately. Good call New Mexico over. A little bit under money, certainly, new Mexico money in the market. To me it's correlated, though I mean, if you're betting New Mexico, I mean you're rooting for points because they haven't shown the ability to stop anybody yet. So right, right, hmm, 59 and a half. I got to tell you one or two more ticks down. No BP service given out over. I just I mean, I haven't seen anything that tells me new Mexico games aren't over. 

01:04:57
Yep, the only thing that kind of stopped it last week. There was a big rainstorm in the middle of the second quarter last week against Auburn. The middle 20 minutes of that game was dead and then and then it still went over a Pence We'd hit the Penn state game from Brad RW fan 23,. South Alabama or six and a half wins. It is back, uh, from how they're playing the last couple weeks, it is back. Keep in mind, this was a late scratch. Nobody had that. Lopez kid didn't play the ohio game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, hey, bp people are saying notre dame minus 27, half, the best bet on the board this week, let's see you. Well, uh, I got a guy I'm looking at right now. It says no way. 

01:05:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So we went head to head on that one I like that's kind of gone back and forth between the 27 and a half 28, so a lot too. I think there was some 28 and a half a minute yeah, uh, I kind of lean over though too. 

01:05:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, we'll see. I and the big play will be next week, louisville against notre dame action sports central. Uh, should we be looking at betting georgia minus two now? Don't you see this line going to three? I think it already went to three at circa they're taking 20 000 bucks a pop. I think it went started that pick. I think it's three. Now, where you at on this one? I know we'll talk about it at length next week. I don't know. Georgia one to two and a half is where I'd put it yep, I agree, yep, I agree with you. 

01:06:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I tell you I'd be interested in some Bama at three. 

01:06:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Agree, so I think it's going to be close. If you had to ask me right now, you can put me on this. Georgia one to two and a half is where I close. Drew, we appreciate you being a new member. I'm trying to see if anything else you got anything else. Any closing thoughts you want to go through best bets? Did we miss anything? 

01:06:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't know. I think, uh, that was. I got a couple that I run the buffalo one really want to go, and then, uh, yeah, we'll be be ready for the live tomorrow, baby, and uh, bounce back. Hate the portfolio, hate the portfolio portfolio. 

01:06:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Speaking the portfolio, if you could, uh, zach, just bring it up real quick, we'll recap it. There. You, there you go. You. The man we had to play a number on Rice Folks got to play seven and a half. I mean that's a low total. Numbers mean more with low totals. Obviously we had Houston earlier in the week. We got Memphis minus nine and a half. That was on today's show. Buffalo plus 13 and a half live LSU. A ridiculously terrible pick, but I still like it. I think they win by five touchdowns under. That's got some nice CLV there. In the Duke middle Tennessee game that was on Monday show TCU. Not so much CLV there. I do like TCU to win that game. It's also was today's show. So we gave out a lot today. Are you kidding me? Yeah, this was worth it. 

01:07:27
And then, of course, your money line, ron Robin Boom. 

01:07:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And then did we delete my favorite thing. 

01:07:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's okay if we did. 

01:07:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, it's okay, it's up. We got to get these to survive the Saturday at least for a little sweat here. 

01:07:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I had App State. Oh my God, unbelievable. No wonder I was getting chirped on Twitter last night. I was like, why am I getting church? I knew I bet App State. I didn't know why I was getting church. Now I know why. Oh my God, no more. Okay, new rule no more Thursday and Friday games from BP we can't. 

01:08:09
I mean, what a joke we might even have you get involved on that. I I am a total joke right now, to say the least. But what isn't a joke is obviously the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish, producer extraordinaire Zach Phillips, and especially you, the listeners, the viewers, the people in the chat. Comments concerns questions. We'll get more of them tomorrow on the halftime show. Keep in mind NC State Clemson kicks off at noon. Abc. Make sure you're tuning in for that one at halftime. We'll be back with that Again. You just watched Hit the Books, part of the Hammer Network, hammer Betting Network sponsored by FanDuel.