00:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
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02:08
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02:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What's happening, man? What's going? 

02:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
on. 

02:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Hey, I like the hat baby, let's just. 

02:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I thought I had you speechless there for a while. No, I just. 

02:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I read in the dulcet tones of BP after with the with the hat and the, you know, there was just too much for me to end. I mean, is 10 win Michigan back on track? Is six win Colorado back on track? You know when were we Head-to-head Three and two. Joey K with the head-to-heads this week, last week. 

03:12
That sounds about right, that sounds about right, although you did get that. You hit me hard with the FAU Yukon, because that round robin was two. The only thing that was going we had the two big dogs on the round robin was two of the only thing that's gone. We had two big, the two big dogs on the round robin cash and, of course, I had that two cheap ones. Uh, I got on there. So, yeah, let's, let's get it back rolling this week. 

03:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, just like, just like origin michigan baby need to get back on track the market is anti-michigan today, as you see that uh money pouring in left and right on minnesota the Gophers. Let's talk, though, before we get into the chat, and, sean Higgs, we appreciate you. We'll get to your super chat here in a second. Obviously, the game of the week as far as many people are concerned was Michigan-USC, probably one of the more exciting games of the season so far. Your thoughts there? Michigan, you know, was prepared out of the gates. I thought it had a good game plan. Sc made some adjustments. You're probably worried that Michigan's going to let that one slip away, but when it came down to it, when you need a yard multiple times, Michigan got the job done when everybody in the stadium knew they had to run it and they were able to get it done. That had to be, in my opinion because I follow the program closer than than most other programs the top 10 michigan win the last 20, 25 years. 

04:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean obviously got the buckeye games, last three years, the playoff games, but I mean I can't think of too many better than more sweet than that one yeah, especially, you know the way it, the way the season kind of was trending and the way it was playing out, um, it was just like kind of a classic. We blew it in the second half. This looks like, uh, you know, I'm not gonna say the wheels are falling off, but a game that you know you're. If you lose that game, any dream you had of, like we're going back to the big 10 title, we're gonna make the playoff, that's all dead. 

05:01
Um, so again, do I think they're that level of team this year? No, but you saw a little bit more of probably what the team should look like. Or do they have a massive deficiency in the passing game? Yes, but you hit the run explosive with orgy, the defense wink. Somebody, you know, put a gun to the back ahead of winks and said stop blitz. And you know the defense looked elite, like it should when you're not zero, blitzing every other down. So, yeah, I think they had a great game plan. Are they ever going to be able to get the passing game? I tell you this, and I heard this on one of the. 

05:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was pissed they threw it on second down. I didn't know what they were doing there at the goal line. Legit. I almost lost. I was like, oh you gotta be kidding me. 

05:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Number one it stops the clock. Number two why are you even attempting to throw? What are you doing? 

05:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
they're running to the line four times. 

05:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come on so this is the pff grades for offensive line. The lowest you can get is a zero and they do pass pro and run blocking the right tackle in two of the four games. Usc and Texas has a zero in pass pro Like he, literally like the worst grade you can get. So it's not only a team with quarterback. They can't protect the pass Like they can't even orgy when they were trying to do pass, like they cannot set the pass pro right. So the offense is just going to look like Navy, the old school service academies before they started running up. So yeah, it's going to be a slog. 

06:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I will say though you're back to 10 wins now. 

06:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm still mathematically possible, I will say where are you at on the line move this week? Cause this is a Minnesota team that has already played two teams that can't throw the ball and lost to both and kind of got blitzed by one last week In a game that I had some plus three against them. I don't think they can stop the run now. I don't do. I love laying numbers with the team that can't pass, no, but I would certainly play Michigan at the current numbers. 

07:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Are we making it a best bet? You want to go Michigan? 

07:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
best bet or you want to wait until Friday. Where do you think? I mean, I don't think this, I don't know where this market is totally different. 

07:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I thought I would I mean as low as eight and a half. Are you kidding me? 

07:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, I think we gotta play it. I think the the chances that it hits seven and that we're like that the show's gonna be out, like to me, to get bought up in a second um. 

07:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm gonna have to look. I I am now nowhere near that number. I mean I was closer to freaking uh. 13 power rating. I think I made it 10, just handicapping line. 

07:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, I mean, are we going, let's go. 

07:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Forget it. Michigan minus eight and a half. I'm wearing the hat. 

07:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, let's get. I am, and I'm going to bet some more myself. I agree, I thought the open was five. It was one of the opens I thought was just. I thought it was a good number about, right. 

08:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, there was even something like 12 and a half or something out there I thought the possibility would be oh okay, it'll come down. Maybe someone would be like I come down to 10. But I, I don't get to move today so I don't know if it's a. Was it a three letter service, or I mean no, no it wasn't, that was not one who's moving all the board? 

08:20
then I, I don't. There's there's a lot of new groups to the market. I can tell you that, uh, I'm fine with eight and a half. Again, I, I, I don't know. I don't see how it's not 10. I mean, minnesota is not, doesn't scare me at all. 

08:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So one of my. You know it's like if you're uh one of my guys that I bet, with kind of put it, uh, like if you're just uh, you would think minnesota like run the ball play defense. Their defense sucks like this is not your classic minnesota defense and they don't really they lost their dc to michigan state yeah, and the and the offense, like the whole, like we're gonna. 

08:57
I mean, darius taylor against iowa had 10 carries for 34 yards, like they don't. Carries for 34 yards like they don't. They don't line up and I don't know. The old minnesota is pretty, is it the? 

09:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
boat isn't the boat. I don't know, I don't know water. 

09:12 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean it's on water. 

09:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I don't know what the the expectation is at that program, but they're gonna have a rough year. I mean they might win like three games. 

09:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that was interesting that Rossi left the defensive coordinator for basically a lateral job. 

09:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And look what he's doing at Michigan State. 

09:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that was a peculiar move, that something's going on in that program that might not be right, because otherwise you're not making that move unless you're, so that might have been. That's kind of stuff like you look at in the offseason could be a leading indicator. So so far I am impressed with what we've seen from Minnesota and the North Carolina loss certainly didn't age well, to say the least no, no. 

10:01
My goodness, let's just get to the chat. I mean, I mean, we'll probably touch on some other games. You know, I thought Utah was super impressive, uh, jmu, uh, you got me on that one. I mean big time. We talked about that on Saturday while that was going on during the halftime show. Uh, but we'll hit Colorado. That probably killed my win total freaking out. 

10:19
I thought it was more terrible coverage by Baylor. They I thought it was more terrible coverage by Baylor. They had two guys just standing. He was their garden, the back of the end zone. I don't know if they're, you know, trying to play security from the fans that were restoring the field or what, and then I'm guarding anybody. 

10:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Cause back to back plays. That's what I mean they dropped the one, they dropped the one. It should have been a touchdown before that and then they throw it in the next one when it gets a touchdown, or even when you're trying to bring pressure. 

10:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What they bring, like five, six guys, it's idiotic. I mean fire Dave Aranda, especially for making me lose that win total on Colorado. That's going to be sick, although Colorado's got their hands full. 

10:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They got their hands full. 

10:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This week and some other games where they're going to get theirs. 

11:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Our friend Joel Penn was chirping me about Travis Hunter and I said dude, I don't know if they're going to win another game this year. 

11:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Like yeah, I mean, I'm not like I know they're three and one, but they they've arguably played the three weakest teams out of the go. Look at the power ratings. They probably played the three. The three wins that they have are the three weakest teams will play play all year. So I, I don't, and two of them they were fortunate against north dakota state and baylor on their home field. I just, sean higgs, we appreciate you big time. Super chat here. Going to to zach's portfolio, uh, the first, like gotta get the producers a couple rounds. You certainly did so. We appreciate you, zach appreciates you. Uh, and that's not your first one, sean, so, uh, yeah you're at the top of the board. 

11:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Producers joey k might have to start taking the super chats. We don't get a get a get a. Turn around here a little bit, so no, but oh yeah, so we got to mention that. 

11:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, obviously, five and nine. Uh, I'm not gonna sit here and bellyache, I mean, it's just that I'll say that if it doesn't turn around in the next couple of months, there'll be consequences and repercussions. I'm a guy that's not afraid to fire himself, so we'll see what happens. The rest of the way here, looking at it, I mean even one of our winners I thought was fortunate. I just watched the Louisville game this morning. I can't believe that was one game we won. 

12:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, I agree, I agree. No, that was well. You know, that's a great point because you gotta, that is a you gotta be, and I think objective there in some of the link, because I totally agree with you that that was, that was on the fortunate side of things, um, because I did not think they were there. Were, they were 10 points better than Georgia Tech on the day. 

12:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't even know if they were better, period, I mean, forget the point spread, I don't even know if they were better, which calls into question that game this week. I know you and I were looking. 

12:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was going to say the market has spoken a little early there on that game. 

13:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Not saying I won't get to the window, though I mean I'm going to be tempted. At seven, seven and a half, I'm going to probably bet Louisville but I'm in a group chat with a bunch of guys. 

13:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, so so the teams, you, you send out 10 minute warning on your play guy goes minus 500 powers. Has given out Louisville at six. It was the timing was like I would have laid a good about that. You were. 

13:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You were taking louisville there, but uh, we rode the, we rode that wagon train, and I don't blame you, they, uh, that wasn't, they did was not fluky 400 rushing yards, I don't know. 

13:40
I just I go back remember the week one. Now I know a lot of it was probably anti-Maryland but some of it had to be pro-UConn and that was probably the biggest summer mover of the week. One lines they got crushed. Everybody jumped off. That's when you should have jumped on, because I mean, I'm looking for consistency in play, week after week after week, and they've had it the last three weeks and I like the spot catching Buffalo off the upset that we called it's Northern Illinois, Although I'll say this obviously the right play, one outright. That was one of our winners. I'm not sure that they should have won the game. 

14:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think so either. I agree with you, like I think again we had the right side there. That was one that Northern Illinois should not have blown that game down the stretch. 

14:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was not surprised, though I mean they weren't dialed in in the two weeks after the Notre Dame Yep. That's what happens when you're not mentally dialed in. You know fundamental, you know mental errors start happening. 

14:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Where do you think about this week going? Uh, go Nancy state. 

14:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Zach club, nancy state. Uh, northern Illinois game. I'll let you talk first and see where you're at on this one. I bet it. Obviously, you probably know where I mean. I send out the, the cheat sheet on Sunday night of everything that I bet. Took a little money today, uh, but I, I I'm more on thec state side of things there um I'm. 

15:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Is it under seven there? Uh? 

15:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
no, it's seven and a half uh, no, I I laid six. So okay, there was. I thought there was gonna be some six and a half like that's. When I circled for the show today I'm like, if that's yeah there is some out there. 

15:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So if you're in there, but, uh, fendul, on the right side of it, I mean you've played some six and a half, can we? 

15:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
nah I, if there's six and a half, I mean we need some winners. We can't go off one book when we preach shopping and stuff I mean we're trying to get us we're trying to win with uh, one arm tied behind our back, and no disrespect to you. I don't know if I'm personally good enough to do that. 

15:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say of the Clemson. I thought CJ Bailey looked like a big upgrade from Grayson McCall in terms of. I thought he played pretty, Now did their defense get. 

16:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What did you hear about Bailey first who? 

16:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Certain guy in the weeds down there that, uh, you know, might, might be watching the spring game a little intently. Uh, I, I listen. No, I'm with you. He, he was, he looked and they look and just that was a T. You don't want this. I don't want to go. This was like a bill Simmons level take, but body language, like when they were down and they scored. They started scoring a bit at the end. The team was like into it, I Bailey's, jumping around and stuff Like even when that game was in hand, I liked the vibes there and Northern Illinois. I don't think their offense will give them anywhere near what Clemson I hate to say it Clemson offense ever since the Georgia game. 

16:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
they found something. They did. Somebody asked me Heisman, not that I think I'll win it, but they asked me for a long shot and I said Klubnik, what do you think of that? 

16:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean of long shots. I honestly don't hate it. I would have told you one of those that before the year I've been like no, are you? What kind of idiot are you? But I mean, I don't think the chopper strong at the moment, um, so I I don't think cam ward and I was talking. I don't think cam Ward has any margin for error. I think they have to go undefeated for him to win it. And then you're probably looking at Dart. Ubers is probably going to return this week. But yeah, I mean, if Klovnik is going to play like that, if they can run the table. 

17:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Which they're going to be favored to do so. 

17:41 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. All right, they're gonna be favored to do so mm-hmm, all right. 

17:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I saw as high as 175 to 1 whoa wait yeah, this, we wait a minute. Look within the last. Yeah, like no, I'm talking like an hour ago. 

17:55
Wow all right, let's get to the chat. Obviously we appreciate you again, sean Sean, for that. And yeah, I guess we can track. Zach is telling me we can track as long as the number is widely available. So I don't know if 6.5 is widely available, but if you can find it worth a bet, it's a bet that I would make right now. Mickey Hill in the chat, plus 14.5, enough for Kent State, not for me. Is half enough for kent state, not for me, I mean you can't say this. 

18:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I don't mickey, I I got like. This can't seem is has a chance to like go down in history as maybe the one of the worst FBS teams in a long time. I saw Penn State set the record for like going back to like 18, whatever, like. Since they started playing football, the most yards they've outgained an opponent by was this week. It was like 600 plus yardage difference between them and Penn State. I don't know. I mean I don't know, I don't know what the floor is for this team. They don't even look like a real. Know, I don't know what the floor is for this team. They don't even look like a real. They look like a horrible FCS team. They look like, well, like a bottom of the like. The Miak team. I mean we're like yeah, st Francis isn't even good. They beat him by two touchdowns, so, um, I don't, I'm not catching the night. Listen, there's a guy who's caught some nights on bad teams in a lot of there. 

19:28
I mean listen rice is a touchdown favorite this week so thankfully I'm off that bus, but I can't do it on Kent state there. If anything, I would lean the other way at 13 and a half or 14. 

19:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh yeah, and I agree with that. So no, thankfully no, not going to be entertaining Kent State this week. Another super chat High value conversations, $4.99. We appreciate it. I used to buy a footlong back in my day, Brad. I've been following you since you were on RJ's show. I got $700 on Georgia Thoughts. Yeah, the big game, obviously not only this week, but so far this young college football season Georgia at Alabama well, what, what price you got, harvey? 

20:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
you got to tell. You got to tell us what line you got. Dude, yeah, you mean pick maybe. 

20:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, if he's got picked, then I mean I'm not gonna scoff at that. I just just because it's the biggest game of the year doesn't certainly doesn't mean it's the best value bet of the year. I I don't expect to be too involved on the game, right? I mean, unless the three shows, I bet alabama. If georgia went to, like a one point dog, I'd bet georgia. So where we're at right now I'm I'm at two and a half. If it's two and a half two, one and a half one, I'm just not interested yeah, I don't. 

20:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what I mean. I think we talked last week on the show, head up. I mean it looked like it's probably yeah, if you got a bet with a buddy or something there where you know 700 either, then I I mean you got a good bet. I think Georgia, you know, like gone to my head I'll say they'll win the game. It's gonna be tough, it's gonna present a little bit of a different challenge, um, than I think Kirby is used to. 

21:05
Ever since Kirby kind of started taking it away from Saban, especially the last few years, I think the Bama offense when they didn't have Lane or they didn't have Bill O'Brien or Sark or one of that, it got a little bit ill towards the end. And even DeBoer himself, guys. That really allows him to maximize the talent. You see it in his ATS record. So I'm fascinated to see it because you know Kirby and Saban two apples from the same tree, whatever you want to call it. They would have very similar styles. This is going to be a very different Alabama for him, so I'm interested to see. You know, can the Georgia be physical in that? And also I mean that Kentucky game was kind of like a wow moment for me. So gun to my head, I would take Alabama if I could get a three. Well, do I think it's going to stick at three? No, so I probably won't be too involved either. 

22:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Christos Harper, longtime follower of the show. Uh, alabama total. Thoughts on the total. Have you heard anything on the total on that game? I again, I haven't gotten involved yet. 

22:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Speaker 0, 1,. No it, it got a little bit uh down a bit today. 

22:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I mean you know, it's not surprised. I think horsesorseshoe gave out under. 

22:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, yeah, I saw it. It kind of hit 47 and a half. It's popped back to 48, 48 and a half. So this ain't. 

22:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This isn't saving Kirby, though. I mean I agree, a little less defense for Alabama under DeBoer, a little more aggressiveness again. Just a simple. You know he went for it at the end of the first half against Wisconsin. That's a. You know, run the ball in the line of scrimmage for Saban. I mean DeBoer went for the kill shot. So I'm just it's a little less conservative. So, no, I get the whole 1998, you know, I should say with Saban. You know 2008, 2018, you know let's play the under in a big game, but I'm not wild about that. This line has been up. This is how long this line's been up. I bet Georgia two and a half when Saban announces retirement. That's how long this line has been out. So they had my money for nine months and here we are. It's basically the same. 

23:26
I was thinking Alabamaabama's team would transfer out. Remember that they would be the only team that was available then. The only team in the portal was alabama. So I thought their whole roster get rated and that just never came to fruition. So, uh, what a what a dumb bet, I guess in hindsight. Uh, wisconsin, usc thoughts, wisconsin plus 14 and a half and oklahoma minus two against auburn, I can tell you I bet w Wisconsin plus 14.5 and Oklahoma minus 2 against Auburn. I can tell you I bet Wisconsin plus 14.5. I did take Auburn earlier but I wouldn't bet it now Were you out there. 

23:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I can't do it with Wisconsin. You want to go ahead and add a 14?. 

24:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A 14? No, I just played a. That's all this is man. When are people going to know? 

24:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's just all it is taking points around, key numbers, I know. And then that half I wouldn't uh, you know I wouldn't play usc at the 14 and a half but I just you're confident sc, or is it anti-wisconsin? It's more. I mean it's it's. I don't think Locke can keep up that. Now again, I don't what Michigan did to USC. I don't think Wisconsin is capable of one physically like on the. They don't have the defensive line anywhere close that Michigan has. And also the the style of play. 

24:41
I think good point Wisconsin, you know, has ever said if the old the old, if this is four years ago. And Wisconsin, you know, has the linebackers they used to and they're playing that old style and you know it's like Barry Alvarez, I would. 

24:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
it'd be best bad material. 

24:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, like literally yeah, like a bet of the season so far. The new Wisconsin? 

25:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know that's a good point, very fair, although I'll say SC took some body blows last week. They had some guys going down late. 

25:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, that's fair, that was a physical. 

25:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's going to add up? I mean they're going to beat Wisconsin, but you start looking, even Rutgers physical, nebraska, penn State I mean there's some body blows. Even Washington's playing physical this year, oof, I don't know. This year I don't know. We're going to see how good their strength and conditioning is, because obviously it didn't hold up against Michigan. Albert Brownies in the chat. Western Michigan plus 5.5. What do you think of this one? I like Western Michigan. 

25:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I do too. I know that was the 7s got taken out real early. 

25:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I took one of those out. 

25:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I was going to say I know it was 6, but I still, all um, I took one of those out. Yeah, I was gonna say I know is it was six, but I, I still all right, best, best bet yeah, let's go for it at five I still like I. 

25:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just I don't know why the line isn't three yeah, and I think it's gonna keep. 

25:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It would keep coming down as well throughout the week, so I think that's one. It's not gonna get any better. Um, I don't think so. Marshall's quarterback got ko'd, although obviously they're playing three different guys. 

26:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But the earl kid got it's not going to get any better. I don't think so. Marshall's quarterback got KO'd although obviously they're playing three different guys, but the Earl kid got knocked, ko'd out of the Buckeye game. I don't see much difference between these two teams. So again, I mean, I just thought it was going to be three, and when it came much higher than that, I bet Western. So there you go. 

26:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, and I thought you know what. I kind go, yeah, and I thought you know what. I kind of like marshall did some things. But I guess then and you, you don't, earl is out this week for sure not for sure. 

26:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I just know that he got ko'd concussion. 

26:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know you yeah, I tell you what like if he's out and I agree with you that usually getting information out of G5, I know for sure. But if he's out I think it's a banger. If he's in I still would have played the number. If he's out I think it's a banger, because what they were able to do against Ohio State. 

27:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's your moles that look into it. You got more injury moles than I do. I know. 

27:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know I got to find, but yeah, I mean to me, I'm just like take the price now. 

27:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The dogs are barking in the background. 

27:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, the dogs are barking. 

27:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was going to say Sounds like it's going to be a good money line this week. 

27:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, week, yeah, yeah if it's. If yeah, if it's still a nice plus money line by the end of the week. Because, yeah, if he's, I thought he actually played extremely well versus ohio state and then, um, yeah, but if he's out that offense, uh, I don't, I don't, I don't like it without yeah the double. 

27:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
People are better at injuries than me, but it it's just why it was. I mean I, I was watching. It was on one of my TV. He said I saw that he got yanked and it wasn't because of performance. I mean I thought he got KO'd Austin Hanson I thought someone checked me. If I'm wrong, if I'm just talking out of my head, I don't think that's the case. I really thought he got what is this in the chat? 

28:10
Bp looks a bit disheveled like the single mommy he just started season. Son screamed at him over the weekend you can't tell me what to do. You're not my dad. Well, it's just. I mean it's the hat more than anything, probably. I mean I was just wearing it like this. I mean jesus, I didn't want to show the m too much love. I mean it wasn't a great week for even betting for me. I mean jesus, I mean nfl. I don't know how I what I did there, but it was just stupid what I ended up giving out. But uh, folks, I mean it ain't my first rodeo. I mean yeah, I mean we got a long season. I mean disheveled. It's disheveled probably because the stupid hat that I'm wearing I was doing it out of respect to my co-host. Uh uh, colorado. I think they get smashed austin hansen in the chat uh, that is my biggest regret of the. 

28:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, the week of was not getting in on that before touch two touchdowns. 

29:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, actually, that moved quick, man. I was just like I like I didn't know I I got paralysis, but I was like, ah, do I get a 10? I was trying to be greedy, I should just bet it. You want to bet it now at 13 and a half? 

29:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep. 

29:19 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Yes, I, I actually I didn't even. 

29:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, I just didn't see that it had gotten back to there. Um, I'm in at 13 and a half, I think they get absolutely 14's available, if we want there's what four teens no 

29:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
no no, we are. We are laying it. Lay ucf. We are not a colorado program. They are his friends, not my friends I'd get. 

29:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I get the coach primes. I was gonna get it, but then I knew I was gonna lay. I think they get buried this week it's a classic. This is weak. Oh my god. We talk about that on the show every once in a while. Like UCF versus a terrible defense in the bounce house. This is when you want to play them like they like. This is the perfect scenario for a ucf burial. Gonna be absolutely insane. Um colorado, off the miracle win. I think they get rolled like rolled I think four touchdowns. 

30:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This is like love it, glad it's part of the best bet portfolio. Uh, no, worries, zach, it's all good. I mean we make mistakes. Have you seen our best bet record? Come on, don't get down, it's fine. Uh, no, uh, central florida best bet, there we go. Uh, chris, georgia state minus three. Georgia tate. Uh, took some money today. The doctor was on georgia state. Um, I didn't bet the game man. The vandy performance aged well though last week yeah it did. 

30:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm a little surprised this has gotten all the way to three. I see a little three and a half four. 

30:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think there's one four out there, uh uh, if that was the first line I saw, I would be betting Georgia Southern plus three and a half. That's too far. 

31:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, that's who. 

31:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that's one too. 

31:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We're going to come. We're going to come out of fire in this way. I mean I can't believe it's gotten past. Come out of fire in this way. I mean I can't believe it's gotten past the three. I'll be some. I was really let's go. 

31:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's key number. Come on, I mean I'm telling you I would, if I'd have saw this on the openers, I would have. I mean I would have bet it. I let's not no. 

31:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm with you. It's one that I did not see getting past the three at any point, and you just got to take it at that point. Yeah, I'm in. 

31:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, best bet Another one. Wow we're firing we might be disheveled, according to the chat, but we're still firing. 

32:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Deacon Orgy over under 32 and a half yards passing. Yeah, I was going to say I'm fascinated to see what the total comes out of this week. 

32:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
um, oh, that was rough again I I was screaming at the tv when they threw it. Uh, through that. Pass on second down. I just that was yeah, because I cannot believe they did that the goal. I can't believe it either. 

32:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I can't believe it either. I can't believe it either. And the sickest thing, like it wasn't even open. Like they just didn't even fool them with the play action. 

32:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I guess if they would have fooled them, I was like just run this ball into the line. You either get it or you don't Eat that. Thoughts on UMass. Miami Ohio under 47.5, oklahoma Auburn under. I'd went contrarian on both and bet the overs on both on the openers Not at those numbers though, but much lower numbers. Looking at it, I just think Miami Ohio has played three legit defenses. I think they open it up a little bit finally and get a chance to get their legs stretched out a little bit against UMass who stinks? Umass is pretty bad. They almost lost to Central Connecticut. What's your thoughts on that one? Oklahoma-auburn? I get it. They seem like dead nut under teams, but they're both running tempo. I think Hawkins is an upgrade at quarterback. So is? 

33:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
is he getting? If you think he starts this week, is he getting? He should start. Should start because because their offensive line is and again, tennessee may be the best defensive, maybe along with michigan best defense. I think they have more depth than michigan's defensive line. Like they're running like eight, nine reminds me of last year's michigan, where they're running like eight, nine, ten guys and everybody's fresh and they just dominate the entire game. With that said, I mean they made oklahoma's offense look embarrassing, like they couldn't run a pass. 

34:01
Pro jackson arnold was terrible, though and so to me you got hawkins same as orgy, if and so to me you got Hawkins same as Orgy. If you can't pass protect, you got to play the guy that can run around. I mean, this is back to the X and O 1950s football year of like. If your tackles can't pass protect at all, you just got to play the guy who can move a bit. 

34:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And from what I hear, hear this isn't some like oh you know, we just benched it, we overreacted. I heard that he outplayed arnold during fall camp. I heard this before the season even started I remember he outplayed arnold, so in like considerably in fall camp. So I don't know I I neither one's best, but I bet the over on both of those Michael. 

34:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that UMass one Over. Yeah, Best bet. Yeah, because I think it had dropped. Yeah, seeing a 46 and a half there. 

34:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, let's go over there Boom. I like that Boom, love it. Yeah, I think my Ohio is going to. I mean they're going to want to score. They've been like they've been bottled up. I mean they're playing Cincinnati, northwestern, notre Dame. Come on, I wouldn't be a bit their team total. I wouldn't mind playing over this week. Mike on the chat BG plus 8.5, future MAAC champs. Well, not plus plus 8.5 would be best bet of the week. 

35:28 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Better, not plus I'd, but plus eight and a half would be best bet of the week. 

35:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, better the better. The century minus eight and a half. I'd be going to the fan duel and asking the ceo how much can I get out this? 

35:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
uh, we didn't talk about that. One was that one of our head-to-heads bg was legit again, man against a m they're. God damn it I I swear, god damn it, that's a good-looking football team. 

35:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's a great-looking football team, the only and I know they had a bye in between here. My only counter to this would be that you had Penn State, you had Texas A&M, now you play. I wish they didn't have this. As a guy who's way in on bowling green a Mac, I kind of, from a personal standpoint, I'd love them just to kind of yeah well, you know, treat this as a little off week here. I, with that said, I lean that way under 10. Did you bet anything here? 

36:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I took 10 with old dominion, oh no. Well, I thought the line would come down that's all. 

36:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is yeah, you're right, you're right. Um, I I'm not dying to get involved at that. I would need it to come down. 

36:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If that was the number I saw in the open, I wouldn't bet it. So it's a pass, yeah, they are a good looking football team. 

36:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They do I think and I'm not just saying this because we bet, I do think they're the best team in the Mac. Yeah, and kind of like, especially since the whole I mean the Northern Illinois, Notre Dame, but seeing some more of the other content Mac contenders they look good in all three games. Yeah, when where everyone else has not. 

37:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it'd be interesting to see a lot of shuffling around as far as the group of five playoff bid. But if BG were to win out they would be in the mix, cause I mean those are two quality losses, man, they weren't fluky. I mean they played Penn state and A&M. I mean deepening the fourth quarter legit uh makes us to see what happens there. We'll see if they can get some consistency. This is a big one for her. I bet the win total over on BG, under for Old Dominion. It's huge for that. T Lynch, new member. We appreciate you, t Lynch. Jimmy S Rutgers minus 2.5 at home, washington short week flying across the country. Callie has looked, callie McManus has looked halfway decent, not great. 

37:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What do you got? Has looked halfway decent, not great. 

37:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Where you at on this one, the doctor gave out Washington. 

37:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And the three-letter gave out Rutgers. 

37:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I took three and a half, I took three and a half. 

37:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, this is one. This is a classic. Like I like Rutgers under three, I agree with like if people took Washington under three, like so. That's all again the doctor gave out what you gave out three, and then ras, I think, gave out one and a half or two, and so, yeah, this is one, um, I think on either side of three. 

38:18
It's simple still is uh, you know a team that uh, I t. You know a team that I don't love laying as the the favorite in a competitive game. Um, but they cal like mannish has been. 

38:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean 16 for 25 269 against vt, who, whose defense has been underwhelming, um, but he has been better than a lot. Now that screams under to me it is. 

38:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What are we looking at here, uh 46? 

38:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
46 now across the board yeah, if I saw like a 40. Ah, we'll revisit it on friday. See what the? Because it's a friday night game, let's see if the public gets involved. Leading up to it and it's a game like, if it gets out to three and a half, I might try to convince you that washington, the low total, uh, good game, that's a pretty good friday night game. These friday night fox games are pretty solid. Uh, let's look here scuba cw, proud new member baby. We appreciate you, but is it possible that there is more than one team in the sec better than georgia? I'll hang up, listen, take the question off the air. Thanks guys. Yeah, that's possible. 

39:32
I think definitely there could be as many as three, four teams. Honestly. 

39:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They're all buttoned up. 

39:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, but Alabama could be one. We'll find out this week. Obviously, texas could be one. Ole Miss Tennessee, yeah. 

39:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean Tennessee man, that Tennessee defensive line. Now I will say Tennessee's got some offensive line problems after that game where they're down to like the third string tackle on one side. So we'll see how that. I don't know the extent of how long those injuries are going to be, but that's going to be a problem for them in terms of, like the big premium games if they want to win SEC championships, playoff games and that. 

40:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know if I trust hypo yet. His UCF tenure left a little bit to be desired, so I'm not there trusting him completely yet. But yeah, that's a good looking team. I guess what I'm saying is there's like five teams with, I know, maybe a field goal of a power rating, three, four points, I mean. 

40:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So this is the best SEC in a long time. 

40:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's what happens when you add teams and other teams rise up. Ole Miss went all in. 

40:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It helps when you throw Texans, but I will say, I mean, they really like. 

40:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it is, though I mean Alabama hasn't taken a step, step back. Old mist, we knew, put an all-in type of season. Tennessee's got a defense. Uh, gonna be fun. We'll put it that way. The next uh couple months, trevor train, uh troiner in the chat. Louisville, we have an even better number. Also, anything on the Cincy game. I'll be in town. I want to throw something together. Let's wait, I think we're going to. There's a possibility we're going to get even a better number on Louisville. 

41:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I think you're going to see a touchdown at some point, trev, yeah. 

41:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Here's what concerns me. Number one the old tout service gave out Louisville last week. That got shoved right back in my face. I mean, it happens from time to time, Not like that on a game day, Oof that was. And then it was clearly, even though I won, clearly the wrong side of that game Could have lost outright. I don't care that they ended up covering. Yeah, that concerns me. And who knows what you're getting with Notre Dame. What Notre Dame team are we getting this? 

41:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
week? No idea, I don't I. Then this is the one we went to head-to-head on, but like that, first the first quarter and a half of that, they could have been down like 14. 

41:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I saw you. I saw you tweeted. I shut it off. I got so pissed. 

42:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
The rug like you are. I did, you and Zach, uh you know, spend the week lacing up the refs in that game, cause there was a few calls in that first half. That kept it well competitive, we'll say. And then Notre Dame, you know, I mean the separation between the teams kind of went out there in the second half. But Miami of Ohio should have been up a couple of scores in that game to start. Boy, they're bad. Well, leonard had a few few, had a few like orgy-esque throws in that first half where he just like turfed him like it was like a play action, it's like a seven yard out and he's just like yeah, nobody's there. 

42:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All you gotta do is complete you and I could complete the pass. I mean, honestly, like he didn't, he just airmailed him. 

42:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He got a little Jekyll and Hyde in him. He had some. Really that was a bad first half by him bad. 

42:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
JT Moon, Texas State somehow a shorter odds today to make the playoffs in preseason. Am I bozo for thinking the Bobcats still have a shot? No, I think longer odds. Yeah, I'm thinking he means longer odds. That ASU game was a tough one. 

43:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It is because that's what it's reacting to is Arizona State losing to Texas Tech, and so, yeah, you needed I think you really needed that game if you're Texas State. 

43:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And they were favored and should have won Up two touchdowns. 

43:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

43:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think it's awesome. 

43:28
I think, Boise is pretty good. So I mean, if you have, you've got to run the table. Yeah, I'd say that's tough. I just I think Boise is going to win it, or at least as far as that group of five playoff bid. I just think they're the most complete team and it's kind of a TV show when it comes down to who playoff bid. I just think they're the most complete team. It's kind of a TV show when it comes down to who to pick. Which one is it? Boise would be a great story, wouldn't it? The first team to win that bowl game over Oklahoma. They have a legit Heisman player too in Gentee. You've got to think like that too if it's selecting between two different teams. 

44:07
530 viewers, 180 likes that's the current. So make sure you're hitting that like button. We appreciate that the audience is still for the most part we're down 10% or so after a couple of losing weeks, but we do have a very loyal listener base here. So we do appreciate you guys. Just make sure you're hitting that like button. Trevor again in the chat Kentucky over 17 at Ole Miss I'm out there. 

44:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Nah, me neither there was. You know it opened around 20. Thought that might have been a little rich. I don't. I'm not fully on board with the Kentucky offense and I know, like I don't think the Georgia script here that they did is playable and it's on the road. It's an offense that I don't trust and it's Lane Kiffin. So if he's going to be able to run it up on you, they're going to keep running Temple the whole game. They're going to keep Jackson Darden trying to win him the Heisman. So I't think kentucky can ugly the game up in this, this style of game, like they did versus georgia. Uh, old miss has just been crushing, crushing so far. 

45:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
so, no, not the spot I want to fade him yeah, you could have the right side for like 50 minutes. Oh, kentucky, and they're like live to win the game and then, boom bang, couple plays and you don't even get the cover. 

45:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Previous years of teams that I that I thought were, that I don't think had as good a defense, that were a little this year's Ole Miss so far, so far could be wrong. Who they played, though, yeah, that's fair, that's fair. They look a little bit more buttoned up than usual under lane. I've been critical of lane and I wouldn't consider this a a big game person. I'll well. Well, the judgment will be that's a beautiful thing about like this game. They play it on the field, so we'll see what happens when they go against some elite teams. I don't. 

45:57 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't want uk here uh, some people are asking about the monday night. Did you do anything tonight? Got two monday night football games tonight. Simonson was asking about that I did not. 

46:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Um, I saw the feed meme. Your boy, mr muscles, uh, was on the jags at five and a half or something. 

46:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Five, I know something he's on the jags, or buffalo, he's on the jags, oh okay that's good um. 

46:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That was all I saw. I don't have a play. 

46:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Look at the way the week played out, the way the week has played out so far, actually the whole entire NFL regular season. I think Jacksonville that's what I bet tonight was Jacksonville, not a big bet, but a bet that I made today, down to four and a half, clv, baby Around that key number of five. Would you be shocked if Jacksonville won five? I wouldn't be. Would you be shocked if jackson will one? I wouldn't be. No, uh, baylor minus three against uh, undefeated byu. This is from west. No, I'm not there, I that was. So I could be. The end of the 10-year type of bad. 

47:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Now it's spot wise, yeah, but a number doesn't say that I can tell you no, I don't, I don't see it like uh, and again it's one of the fraudulent box scores is is bybyu, kansas state. Uh, oh my god, 38 to 9. That's one of those. Uh, you look and you're like, how did this happen? With that said, I'm not laying three with baylor. Um, no it, to be honest with you, it got a little bit. I I lean byu at over a field goal. 

47:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So if it's three and a half on the friday show we're going. Best bet by you, because that's what I am to get involved in that game. That's what I need jt, moon, uh, utah plus 105 to make a playoffs. How do they not get after saturday's win? That's a good question. Have you bet this yet? Because that was dominant that when you want to talk about misleading final, that was 22-3 with about six minutes left. 

47:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, that was just an all-time defensive effort from you. Now here's what I would, my counter to you, just to play devil's advocate. If this Cam Rising thing is going to drag on, I don't think you can, can I think there will be a loss or two on the schedule if he's going to keep missing like and again plus 105. There. I just I don't know, like I just don't know, I just don't know and I'm sick of trying to figure it out whether he's going to play week to week, how long term this is, but it's gonna, it's tough to do. Run that formula and not drop a game here or there if you're going to like that type of offense. So again, great performance. They did enough. Do I think they can run the table playing that way? 

48:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, T Smooth 86. Hey guys love the show, Hate the portfolio? Well, you should considering the last couple weeks. Speaking of the portfolio, I'm holding a nice, shiny Virginia Tech plus 7.5. Take it from the summer thoughts on buying more Virginia Tech at plus 19 and a half or just lick my wounds. I mean, what's your number this week? It just depends. I mean, if you were, you got a popular one this morning. Yeah, it was from a lot, so yeah from a lot of people. 

49:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
so, but I think Virginia Tech just sucks Like I've seen enough. 

49:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I need 21. 

49:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah me too. I would need to. I agree with you that. I mean, listen, Joey K has some Virginia Tech futures was on. Virginia Tech win total over. Sometimes you're swinging a miss baby, and at this point I've seen you can't give me those four performances and say that anything's fluky. Their defense is junk and drones is hit or miss and miami has it rolling and rolling, rolling. So I think the tail and gap here is massive. So I'm not. No, I don't want to catch the the knife here. I agree with you. 

49:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Three touchdowns get involved are you big limb biscuit fan rolling, rolling, rolling I was in the day. Don't give me I have your certain age. How would you not be? 

49:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
how could you? 

49:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
not. Yeah, it was good stuff back in the day. Uh, don't judge us. Um, you were young, everyone was yeah, yeah, we were good. I mean, I I'll tell you, cool, like you want to get red, white and blue american vibes, he performed at a wrestlemania and, uh, it was, the undertaker was in his like, uh, care, he was a biker character. He rolled out playing that song. There's girls dancing. He rolls out and comes down the ramp on a motorcycle. You, I mean, I want to start chanting usa with that going on. Good stuff, look up, look for that on youtube. It's good stuff. Uh, all right, blue chicken no, sticking with dju normal said today hammer smu, I don't know that smu, you would talk about a crazy box score. That was nuts. 

50:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I actually lean florida state I saw you in florida state there and I was like, can you believe? That, um, that, that cal game. I mean, what a disgusting their, their offense is so bad, um, it is bad, it really like they really do nothing. Well, it it really? And I'm I mean skill position, talent either. I'm concerned. I know you're, you haven't been, mr SMU, and the SMU offensive line still has problems which maybe the Florida State, you know, front can give them a lot of issues. Um, I just you like SMU? 

51:23
not at the current, but if I'm gonna get involved in Florida State, I think it's in the right range here. I played some SMU lower when it first came out. 

51:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How about plus nine on SMU. You like that? 

51:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, is that a summer BP special yeah that's a summer. 

51:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm hoping for an SMU 3-4, 5-point victory here. It would be really nice, really, really, really nice, nice. I got about a two touchdown uh, and with a low total I'm hoping that's one. I'm home in the middle. Uh, noel's team total under. Yeah, I, I hear you on that one. That's just that's trusting a lot. On smu, uh, to all of a sudden make them favorite, but I hear you big game for them. Uh, hang the mac banner. Uh. In other news, when do I stop fading wyoming? Well, the market hasn't stopped fading. I mean, I can't believe they're. They're betting air force left and right. I don't trust air force, so I. 

52:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I had a. You know I talked about this game a lot with the guy last night. Um, this is one under the old craig bowl, like if you were, when he, when air force came into wyoming under the old wyoming bowl. It was like they knew how to shut down that option and really gave them trouble. 

52:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The new Wyoming I don't know what they got. 

52:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know what they got. Do they have anything? Their defense is getting shredded week after week. They've given up like 250-plus rush yards in a couple games already. 

52:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How does that fall apart like that so quickly? Seriously, the guy was on the staff last year, I wasn't it. Yeah, I thought so. 

52:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, they promoted, I just and it just it's off a cliff in one off season um, bull's son is one of the coordinators. 

53:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think so. How does it like and you would think a program like wyoming's not high variance up now. It's not like they brought in a bunch of transfers. I just thought that if it was going to decline, it would be like a steady yeah, fine, not like overnight, just two and ten program. 

53:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's what they're going to be, two and ten for sure, and I will say the one thing air force offense been, their defense has been solid so far through the start. So if there's one unit you trust in this game, I think it's kind of the Air Force D and maybe they. 

53:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I can't lay more than a field goal on the road, though with this no, no, no, no. All right, we're seeing. If you, I was seeing, if you still like the Air Force, I don't at the current. No, no, no, no no, just checking. 

53:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This is the ultimate, with a total of 36,. This is the ultimate. 

53:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't want to get no. If we were having a winning season, I would be like, ah, let's give out Wyoming. No, we can't afford any losers. Spencer appeal in the chat Notre Dame to miss the playoffs at minus 230. I don't mind that. I don't hate it. They got to win out. 

54:08
They do, they absolutely they gotta win out they do they and they're not winning out now, um, they're not winning out, but uh, I don't have good. Notre dame takes is what I saw like right before we did. I went on the show. I saw somebody on twitter was getting after me. This guy hasn't had a winning notre dame take all year. I don't know. Last time we bet the under an a and mM game. I forget what else I mean. Everyone only remembers the losers. 

54:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say I mean at Georgia Tech. It's going to be tough, I mean even this week, even though the numbers come up. 

54:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
At Georgia Tech. All the games are tough when you lose to Northern Illinois. Yeah, you've got at Army and at Navy. 

54:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I can't see them not tripping up again. And then at 10, the only you you made this point, just you know, 15 minutes ago SC body blows the TV show. Though if they win that game against us and into Notre Dame, get in because it's Notre Dame. I said I don't think so either. No, northern Illinois, if they'd have lost the Texas A&M. 

55:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Loss of Texas A&M instead, then they can get in. Yeah, no, agree Cause, northern Illinois is going to lose four games or so, right. 

55:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're right, yeah, that's. It's almost a unforgivable loss. 

55:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, so they got gotta win out. They're not. So, yes, that go back to the question we're going to playoffs. 

55:38
I can't believe you picked that team. Yeah, so no on the playoffs, minus 230. I think it's a good bet. I have made that bet on the no. I got to look here Brett Sullivan, nebraska going to hammer Purdue. Love the show, appreciate you guys. I did bet Nebraska this week. Where are you at on this one? What was hold on? What was with the Purdue money last week? They were betting that like they knew the final. 

56:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I don't know, because kind of connect, like connecting some dots, giving up 66 to Notre Dame's like okay, like the word, I mean their defense, ryan Walter's defensive guy and their defense is bad, um, really bad. 

56:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, I tend to lean that even though my boy gave them out of plus three. I'm like what is going on? 

56:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know. I don't know. I thought there was some, I thought there's oregon state injuries or something it looks like the only nine and a half is with our friends at fan duel. Oh, you want to lay it. 

56:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I love you. 

56:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's right, nebraska, go big red talk me into nebraska, baby I love uh, rayola's my guy. I don't care if they blew the. 

56:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to lay it? Yeah, Best bet. 

56:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Nebraska Go Big. 

56:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Red. 

56:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You've got to talk me into Nebraska, baby. I love Rayola's. I don't care if they blew the last game. Yeah, the people are trolling me. After the first round that guy had like 300-plus yards, three touchdowns. He did miss a throw, but I mean he did miss the all-important throw. 

57:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got to tell you he did look good early in that game. I was like man, he looks like a true freshman. He looked like a pro quarterback. Yeah, I, I didn't. You did not. You have a lot of bad takes. I have a lot of bad picks. That was not a bad take by you honestly. 

57:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So him and arch are gonna go like, yeah, it depends when they both. You know, like I I don, I don't know if I mean arch is probably gone before, but like those are the two best QB prospects in all college right now at the moment. 

57:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Penn state line. This from Brett inviting the public hammering of Illinois Penn state bloodbath Saturday night. I could see that where they really take it. I could see that too, cause. I didn't bet it yet but I would need. I you know I get greedy Like can I get a 16 and a half and stuff. I just it was never. Was it ever there? I don't think it was, was it? 

57:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think circle open 16. I missed it then. 

58:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It did. I'll be honest with you, I with you, I did. Do you get involved in those? I I had so many where I hit bet nope line already moved, bet line already moved, bat line already moved. I'm like what is going on? 

58:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
this is within 20, 30 seconds yeah, well, just I think the fact like they opened it up to so many states now, yeah I had a lot more like that. 

58:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The first couple weeks I still was able to get a majority not always, but this one was like it wasn't fun. I there was some four letter words flying on sunday morning when you want to get a majority not always, but this one was like it wasn't fun. I there was some four letter words flying on sunday morning when you want to get better and I agree. 

58:34
One bat, two, three points, and you're just like. And then you're like do I want to still take it? Whatever, my goodness, uh, mark s brad, did we have any? No, I wish we would have gave out the over one on one and a half on that one. I know you were, you were all over that one. Yeah, and I even explained it when the big favorite's down they keep going. 

58:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And then we don't bet it and it goes over by 30 points. 

59:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I will say, if you're watching the Saturday show, we've done pretty well on the second half stuff. I think we're 3-1 on the second halves. We did have NC State easy winner second half. I thought we were dead after they threw the pick six, but they still kept coming back. I liked what I saw from them. There was a lot of good fight from them in the second half. 

59:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that. I like that play this week. I really like that play this week. 

59:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I do too. Question there from Austin Mack about the quarterbacks in the Big Ten. How many quarterbacks in the Big Ten are we taking over, ryola you? 

59:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
asked me this, though we didn't actually go, I would say Right now. 

59:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh my goodness. 

59:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So let's give it Gabriel and Drew a lot as two solids um. I'm taking Miller Moss, curtis Rourke where you're at on that. 

59:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He's playing really well no, I might slam dunk. 

01:00:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think about even oh yeah, and then I guess the one is Will Howard, you were Howard. 

01:00:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I haven't seen enough from him. They haven't played anybody yet. I got to be honest Altmeyer looks good. 

01:00:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Altmeyer does look good, but I'm still taking Raiola Aiden. 

01:00:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Child. 

01:00:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, no, no no. 

01:00:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Listen. 

01:00:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Aiden Child's experience is really fun, but like he's making like six throws, a game that you're like what are you doing? At one point I think on Saturday he was like nine for 22. He does make the occasional like NFL 50 yard on a rope throw. That's incredible. 

01:00:42
But no, Raul is way more consistent than Child's on a down-to-down basis. What did you think? The spartan money was sharp on saturday and that was man. That's fucking john. God damn, mel tucker, son of just could have kept it in his pan. Been terrible for a decade there now. Now, michigan state's relevant yeah, john smith that was their defense. They've got and they don't have like elite, elite talent on that defense anymore and they got it playing well that was an underrated game. 

01:01:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I would, if you just want to watch decent football, yeah, even then the announcers at the end they're like, hey, this is pretty well coached. Yeah, coaching makes a difference. Both those programs are like oh, they're going to be problems to deal with in the future. I'm not saying they're going to be conference champ, but that is going to be a tough out for as long as Bill O'Brien and Jonathan Smith are at the school. 

01:01:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So a good college football coach? Do you think no? Can they keep? I feel like Ohio State's in another stratosphere at the moment than Michigan State. 

01:01:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So just play your game. But yeah, I hear you, but I just I haven't seen the Buckeyes enough, I mean to know, and it's not like they've been dominant from start to finish in every game. 

01:01:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree. 

01:01:56 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree, the first halves weren't good. 

01:01:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, it wasn't, they're not. A couple of teams are like the Ole Miss, the Tennessees, like those teams are every week burying teams. 

01:02:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
From start to finish for the most part. 

01:02:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ohio State's not been doing that. So yeah, I'm probably not laying that number. 

01:02:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, but this will be the first data point. How good is this team? 

01:02:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm not betting it, Just in the bones. It feels like this is one of those like Ohio State turns it on here and Childs, yeah, Robert. 

01:02:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Robert in the chat was just asking about that one. Yeah, I'm in pass. We'll talk more about that one on Friday. I don't know. Yeah, I'm just I don't expect to be involved there. It's a game that it'll be the first game that I'll really tune into Ohio state and see. Well, let's just see how good they are. Jamil, I replaced FAU with Baylor and around around Robin. 

01:02:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That would have cause that three out of four there would have paid real nice. 

01:03:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Okay Announcement, no, uh. Okay announcement. Uh, no parlay today. So we'll try to have that on friday. Uh, so we're gonna skip that today. We might have two on friday, though, because that's figures. I kind of like the my money line I did. I'm like I think I got a winner this week. I like all these. Uh, we got plenty of best bets, though we'll recap them in just a few more minutes. Got a few more questions here that we'll get to. Uh, or paid state has Rutgers is 26 in the country. Do we agree? Probably not. 

01:03:37
Uh, I think there'd be a little high for me, but if you got them at 36 right now, but uh, we'll see that that's a big game on Friday night between those two DK. Any advice on staying the course when all the bad beats are getting you? Baylor ECU oh, ecu was tough KU this week. Continue the process or reevaluate, it's always continue the process. 

01:04:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, you can't, and I used to be worse at this, letting weekly results get to me personally more emotionally frustrated. As long as, for the most part, I know people are getting on the right side of numbers earlier in the week, over the long haul, you'll be fine. 

01:04:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it's been a different type of year both in college and the nfl that. So I give it time, dave. Three thoughts on the market move on georgia state I disagree with the move. Um, yeah, I was the doctor gave that out and we gave out the opposite side earlier in the show. So there's your answer. Numbers matter. It's a game we're going to give it. If it was two and a half, we want to give it out. Three and a half. I'll take the rivalry game. Let's take the. Let's take what I thought was at least coming in the season the superior team catching three and a half ball state this week against james madison. I could see it, but the price ain't there yet. So that's one I think we'll revisit on friday. 

01:05:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, on that, one or no? No, I'm with you of um, I would need a bigger number to have to get it 21 is kind of where I'm starting to eye it up. 

01:05:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But let's wait. I mean a lot of negativity. I. I yeah we might get there. So that's, we'll look at more at the uh. We gotta look at this weather system too. I am a little where that's gonna be uh over the weekend. Uh, so keep that in mind. Uh for totals, because I wouldn't mind playing the over ryan hart, uh, one of sp plus his biggest discrepancy I knew it. 

01:05:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I did this. So, yeah, um, I know some guys that bet rice this morning. I'll tell you that, uh, I'm not gonna give that on the show unless you put a revolver to my head, but, um, I am just personally. Unfortunately have a run another rice position, so I bet charlotte I'm feeling good. I, I don't blame you, uh, I do, I do rice is they got some? They're well banged up too, and it's not a team with a ton of talent as is. So, yeah, I don't. 

01:06:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think Poggi's done after this year at Charlotte. 

01:06:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Are you? I was like that was a I don't know man. Like they don't have anything going. Like there, there's just nothing. Like the, they don't have anything going on either side of the ball. I agree, and it's like I expected a lot more from from Biff coming into this. Like they, they're bad again. Like it is because this isn't a year zero anymore. Right, like this is a in the new era. 

01:06:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I guess they're showing something. 

01:06:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They have to because you're right, as you're saying, like it doesn't. They don't have anything to hang their hat on in terms of they could be all in front of me. They almost lost to Gardner-Webb. Like this team, they just yeah. I don't know. 

01:07:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I agree with you. It's going. This is a big game for their trajectory for the rest of the season, because if they don't show here, I mean you see it with teams, it's just they weigh the white flag, it's over. Uh, brett, in the chat, arkansas plus three and a half I am on that side this week. I don't know if three and a half were you. Did you take part in this Arkansas money today? 

01:07:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, I'm not involved on that one. Um, and I agree it's, it's gotten a little, it's a little light now. Yeah, A little light now. If I was gonna, I wouldn't be be late to the party. They're, uh, catching the train with them. 

01:07:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Box score. I know they went out right. I know that was a big time sharp play last week, but box score was not great for Arkansas last week week so I'd be a concern there, um go ahead. 

01:07:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I have a jekyll and hyde. 

01:07:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They've had some yeah, I agree, they're tough to trust and I don't know yet with a and m. 

01:07:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So it looks. So where you at in terms of because wiegman now sink apparently is back. I don't know if that's a good thing. 

01:08:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know if I like that. I don't know if I like that. 

01:08:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know. So they put him as number one on the depth chart. That was the news break today, so we'll see. I don't know if he's going to start or not, but they seem to look better without him. 

01:08:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, and BG just might be that good. So I mean I didn't want to overreact to that performance last week. I don't know, it'd be a game that we'll learn a lot. I need it for the wind total for A&M over Arkansas under. I can tell you that. So I need a A&M win by three or four would be great for the portfolio. On so many bets. Trevor Bowling Green under 10. Nah, i'm'm out there. I don't think it's a great spot for him this week. Oh, do you have to buy? 

01:08:51
we'll see if they hammer od you, though I'm we. This is going to be the bowling green show for the rest of the year so, uh, now that's a game where we'll see what they got. 

01:09:03
They got up for the big, two big games against the other opponents to see if they can take care of business at home. Uh, mickey hill, a random. I have lost his job, I agree, especially if he loses this week. I think they're done. He's done so, just unacceptable on so many levels. Shane in the chat, just a few more Oahu, boise State, illinois, penn State, oklahoma, kansas, oklahoma State, kansas State. I got confused there. Sorry, eileen Boise, I think we both lean Penn State Numbers ain't great there. I'm not a part of the Kansas State money, but I understand it. 

01:09:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean it was a shockingly bad performance Gundy, god damn it. Like sometimes their offensive performance against Utah. I mean that was that was the Alan Bowman I thought they were getting when he transferred to Michigan and he was bad. He gets pulled. I don't like their backup either. Um, they're man, what a? They were a team where I was watching them week one for South Dakota State and I was like, well, they like, they look like, and since, since then, that that couple of performances where you're like what is happening here? Um, so yeah, I get the cans. 

01:10:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I wasn't a part of it, but I get the kansas state money I agree, I did bet boise, yeah, better now, though again under a key number, like I mean, this would be great if I just you know, let me, let me take the hip, the books account, and just when fando opens up their numbers. 

01:10:29
You want me to fire in like 20 bets a week. On Sunday morning I'd be like boom, boom, boom, let's get our units up. You know, I swear I want to do that one of these days. Oh, my goodness, if I didn't have integrity, which some people? You're a town, how can you have any integrity? You suck, uh I. I would love to do that one morning. I can tell you that. Okay, closing thoughts. We'll. We'll wrap it up with that. We got to recap uh, best bet, so we gave out a ton. You got any other games you were looking at uh, I the I see from. 

01:10:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So a couple like see guy was looking at new mexico franchise, loved new mexico in this game. Um, I do too. Is there? What do we got at FanDuelZak New Mexico, new Mexico State. Oh, that got really. 

01:11:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That went far, doctor gave it out this morning. 

01:11:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I bet it yesterday. 

01:11:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think New Mexico hammers them. 

01:11:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, me too. 

01:11:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But Price, it's a rivalry game and Tony Sanchez can be up and down, so be careful. 

01:11:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
The other one, uab Joey K, swinging a miss on Memphis. I mean Navy, you think Memphis finally gets the defense right? And they could not stop them for for a second um where? 

01:11:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
you at uab navy oh, uab plus three and a half. Where are you at on this one? 

01:12:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
you on navy and I er so early, early um. 

01:12:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But three and a half I I wouldn't, tell you, if that was the opener, I'd be betting uab you're trusting the fighting dilfer's on this one. I mean I don't trust them. But you know, when you make 50 bets in like 10 minutes, I'm just telling you I would hit, that would be a bet. But uh, boy navy's better than I expected that you are. 

01:12:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, they are better offensive coordinators. 

01:12:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
A really good hire. Probably saved newberry's job because they were. I went to the army navy game last year and I just I like when I go to games I focus on different stuff you don't see on tv. Their operation on the sidelines was just like they were befuddled like the running players in and out. They were just totally confused. I couldn't believe that at that point in the season. So, uh boy, he hired the Mercer head coach. This is in the weeds, but really good hire. The offense looks great so far, yeah, totally. 

01:12:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Now I, I can, I have to give, uh, good credit where credit is due. They are. They do look completely revitalized on offense. 

01:13:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They do look completely revitalized on offense, let's recap the best bets you want to lay three and a half. 

01:13:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, no, no, I saw a chat was asking about it. 

01:13:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Okay, I was like I'll go head to head on that at least. So that's bets. I got to look here. I forgot Zach can't pull it up. Let me pull it up real quick. 

01:13:26 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
I got them, I got them here, you got them all right. 

01:13:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I can't pull them up. 

01:13:32 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Oh, you can't, I can't pull them up on screen, but I tracked everything okay, you, you repeat them, you're gonna run them down bro zach yeah we got ucf minus 13 and a half, western michigan plus five and a half. 

01:13:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, a winner outright. 

01:13:49 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Georgia Southern, plus three and a half. 

01:13:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, t-number. 

01:13:53 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
T-number UMass Miami, ohio, over 46 and a half. 

01:13:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, that's contrarian. 42-30 final. 

01:14:00 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
Nebraska minus nine and a half 40-point. Burial NC State minus six and a half. 

01:14:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, 10 to 14-point burial NC State minus 6.5. 

01:14:09 - Zack Phillips (Co-host)
That one 10 to 14-point win there and Michigan minus 8.5. 

01:14:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Those are all I got, yeah, the 1 by 10. Right where the line was, where the line should be. So, man, I hate that portfolio, hate it. Yeah, I hate it. That's a good start to the week. I'm pretty excited. You'll get a go blue from me. You'll get a go blue from me because, you know me, I love that style of play. They just smashed. I love that style of play. 

01:14:36
I was rooting for your boys at the end, just smashed this team at the end and they did so. I was happy you got any closing thoughts. Is that it? 

01:14:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, that was good. Uh, good way to start. Let's get it. I like the like the portfolio like and I hate. You know what? I'm not even gonna say hate the portfolio. I like the the week one start. Uh, get it back on track this week, baby. And the good show chat was live and uh locked and loaded ready for the week chat's always live and I apologize to anybody. 

01:15:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
At the questions. There's a lot questions, probably 40 or 50 that we didn't get to. Again, we do two other shows every week, so if you didn't get in today, check us out on Friday 5 o'clock. And also Saturday We'll do the halftime of one of the big noon games. So check that out. That's what the schedule has in store. And for the man, the myth legend himself, joey knish. For producer extraordinaire zach phillips, for all the questions comments concerns all you guys, the stars of the show in the chat you just watch, hit the books, part of the hammer betting network sponsored by fanduel. You.