00:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
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02:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE-NEW-YORK, or text HOPE-NEW-YORK in New York, Kanish, how was your weekend, buddy? Well, got the coach primes on baby Feeling good. Today, let's just say Colorado, the Lord blessed us with another victory on the way to greatness. I know, Mr Powers, you doubted it. You doubted that there was something special happening in Boulder and Colorado. Big 12 championship playoff berth, on the way, had to get a gift from a friend here the authentic Primes baby. 

03:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, more important for you to win a head-to-head against me on the win total than it is for our loyal listeners and viewers, because we did have a best bet on Central Florida. In case you forgot minus 13.5, only fails to cover by six touchdowns. Very good performance by Colorado, say, at least by far their best performance in what the 15-16 game that we've seen them under Coach Prime, complete offense defense, special teams, you name it Did not see it coming, certainly did not expect the defense to hold up. Offense line held up as well as they did. It was just, you know, an ass-kicking, to say the least, not only for the portfolio there. For that game we did end up with a winning week, 7-6. We crawled a little bit, thought it was going to be a lot better. Yeah, the new window. 

03:48
And then it started going poorly with that colorado game uh, obviously the big one. Alabama, georgia uh, a game that, uh, boy, and I don't think anybody had that game script. Uh, the alabama out to the you knowtouchdown lead, somehow someway. Negative three turnovers and Georgia took a lead on the road late in the fourth quarter. Lo and behold, obviously the most talented freshman, jeremiah Smith. I guess Ohio State as well, but Ryan Williams makes a play. Alabama wins, alabama covers Alabama number one. The more things change, the more they stay the same. Alabama has the greatest coach of all time. He retires and they go out and probably maybe hire the best coach in college football right now yeah, I mean listen, a couple of things to unpack there. 

04:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
One thought that that was the most complete effort, as you're saying, colorado's put together, probably dating way back now, but it definitely in the coach. I don't know where it came from on the offensive defensive line but they kind of manhandled uh ucf at the line of scrimmage and if that, if we're gonna get that colorado going forward. 

04:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm the big 12, they're they're. 

05:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They are very live in the big 12. If that, if that's the way they're going to play on both lines of scrimmage, do I think that's going to be a week in, week out, but the team that I saw in that game was a Big 12 contestant. Especially when you factor in what happened in Utah, what happened, you know, kansas State doesn't look particularly. I mean, I've never seen a conference with that many teams that has, with that many teams. That's that wide open, so should be a fun finish in the big 12 and the Bama Georgia. 

05:30
Where are you at post? I think this is the most fascinating question. Where would you, if you had to make the game again this week, where would you put it? Cause I would argue that you had a, a DeBoah s game plan that kirby was not ready for, and if you give me a rematch, I, I think I'd be, I think I'd go uga. I I mean really, and that's not that's that's giving all the credit to a guy who, when you can win games against some of the, the other elite coaches, as he's done against Sark, against Kirby, that I mean you said it all there that he's probably the best coach in college football, but I don't think he has the best team in college football now that defense leaves a lot to be desired, I mean you gotta give him, I mean his flowers, I mean he's Dan, lanning, sark and now Kirby. 

06:25 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Six games against those guys. Underdog in all. Six games, 6-0. Straight up, deboer. 

06:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Now to your question. What was his record against Jim Harbaugh, though? 

06:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
0-1. There you go, Well, Harbaugh's you know Go way back. 

06:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Even more losses when he was OC at Indiana. 

06:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah. 

06:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh. 

06:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Jesus, and we're counting that now. Who covered the spread? I don't know in those games. To go back to your question, I still have Georgia number one in my power ranks. Again, I just go to how many teams can have. You know, turn the football over four times, have Milrow at the start of the game, play perfect, literally perfection, in the first 20 minutes of that game. You know, create yourself a four-touchdown hole and then be up with two minutes left on the road. So yeah, Georgia's still number one for me. Let's get quickly because we've got a super chat. Mitchell, I hope that's how you pronounce that. Mitchell Ferguson, thanks for all you do for the college football betting community for free. We appreciate you. 

07:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We appreciate all you do for the college football betting community for free. We appreciate you. We appreciate that super chat. I mean, it's canadian baby, maybe he's got a little. Uh, mcgill, zach, zach, jump in. How do you? How do you pronounce that? 

07:33 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
in canada, because I saw that that's nothing to do with canada what has nothing to do with canada easy because it was canadian. 

07:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Right like it was, it was a canadian yeah, what is it? 

07:46 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
I would think. Mitchell, how do I hope no there was 699 canadian ca. Right, right oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah that's what I don't. Get you some right, yeah, yeah, that'll be cool back montreal. 

08:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I thought you're talking about the name. I'm like what that's what I'm saying. 

08:04 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
Montreal, yeah, I thought you're talking about the name. I'm like what that's what I'm saying. What is it? Hopefully you can tell us in the chat all right. 

08:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, yeah, we teed him up. Sorry if he murdered it for you, uh michelle, but uh, yeah, if you got a question shoot it in there. 

08:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
uh, alvarvaro Encinas is a new member. We appreciate him and again, if I butcher it, light me up in the chat. Speaking of the chat, let's just get to it Again. We went 7-6. Fabulous ones after the latest weekend CLV defeat. Hey, 7-6. Last I checked was that 53.8%. I'll take that, Considering what this show is about. 

08:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Every week seven and six. You take it all the way to the banks there, I mean the Michigan. Blowing that cover was annoying to say the least. 

08:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh my God, yeah, I mean, that was blue the game. We'll get to that in a second. Then Ole Miss I thought we had a good play there and you know, can't make a stop, you know, fumble, the ball pops up in the air, ole Miss recovers, we get a winner there. Nope, kentucky, kentucky was the right side. Remember we bet Ole Miss in the second half to basically win that game. And they were. 

09:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, and Western Michigan too was a God. 

09:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They should have won that game went down at the yeah goal line late. 

09:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah yeah, that was tough. Marshall was a little bit better than I expected, not. Oh. That was not the worst one, though, and granted, we got luckers. We said we got lucky with records on friday, but the miami ohio total goes to ot 2020. All we need is field goal, field goal. Umass misses a field goal to start it lands 43. 

09:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That hurt. 

09:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Come on. 

09:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It takes bad beats to beat us. No, I'm joking, obviously. See Colorado UCF Fabulous one. After last week in CLV defeat, I was wondering what percentage of a play is CLV related? How much does situation schedule injuries? Well, it's all into it. I mean, obviously you're anticipating. 

10:06
For me personally, I have power ratings that I really trust. So I start with that. That you know equates to a bet usually, and then all that other stuff's. You know part of the handicap and look, if you bet early in the week, uh, you got a good power rating and you do the handicap accordingly. You know the clv. If you're betting enough as far as volume, it just comes with it. Uh, but getting out in front of stuff so, uh, it's not. You know, sometimes, yeah, I mean, I'll anticipate a market move, especially if it's around a key number. Two and a half, you know I'm betting a favor two and a half, six and a half and I, I fully, you know, expected to go to seven or something. Then, yeah, then, then then part of that clv. But I, I don't just bet stuff. Oh, yep, got me, I'm for sure going to get CLV on this one. I just my power ain't cost where I make a bet. That's just how I roll. 

10:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I would say you know for the majority. I know there's like this anti-CLV movement in some corners of the space. That to me is such like a uh for the for your typical rec plus better or better that's trying to win, or just things that especially me and bp do here. Of like betting a lot of volume earlier in the week you get clv over the course of 500, a thousand more plays. It's all gonna work out in the end. There's the occasional groups, you that are trying to mask action or do stuff, but that's all in the very deniche intricacies of betting 500 level six-figure income. 

11:33
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's more of a different level, I think, for your standard. Better who's really trying to, you know, turn a profit, make money, bet, volume bet earlier in the week and get to your CLV and it'll work out For your average guy? 

11:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
yes, absolutely. And I still, even in those groups that want to disguise master CLV and their big betting six figures a game, I still go. It comes down to this you don't think CLV matters. Five minutes before kickoff let me bet any game I want using the opening line line, and you tell me you want to take me up on that because I'll do that all year. I'll quit this show, I'll quit everything, that everything. Just let me do that. You tell me it doesn't matter. Come on, get out of here with that. It's bull. Uh, burt Brownies. Ucf was so bad I might bet the Gators boy. That's the big battle in the marketplace today. Back forth, we go for you. Florida favorite, central florida favorite. I mean, where are you at on that game? I didn't, I didn't bet that game, yet I kind of leaned over so I feel there was some groups moving. 

12:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This morning I filled some uh ucf on the the plus side uh for for somebody. Then I saw mr muscles like the ucf as well. Um oh they're out two and a half now. 

12:44
Look at that yeah, yeah I thought that again, that was a we don't want to try not to overreact to one data point there, but it was an underwhelming, a very underwhelming performance by ucf. The thing with florida is in another. You know, a couple weeks to prep I heard, I've heard the. It's just how much Florida is one of those teams in kind of a spot where you're like does this team care anymore? Are they focused? Can the coaching staff put them in the good position? I don't know, I kind of like UCF as a little bit of a short dog there but wouldn't play it now. 

13:25
Yeah, I kind of Would you play Florida? 

13:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
three I thought we'd just be going back and forth, but yeah, two and a half. Now my power ratings have Central Florida favored. But I'm just culture shocked after that performance last Saturday. That was rough and I generally don't trust Gus Malzahn, I just don't. I could see this could go either way. I mean I could see a UCF blowout if they get the Gators down. Burt Brown he's also asking best bet Tulsa plus 10.5?. Playing Army? I bet Army. I'm going to bet Army now. But I certainly wouldn't recommend Tulsa with that defense that they put out against North Texas. 

14:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know why you want to get in front of the, the two service academies, now army and navy. I was gonna say the troops are back like way back. I've I've renewed at air for after I lost my face in national air force early in national security, army and navy like they are, they they're back. That game's gonna be an absolute classic um at the end of the year. But I agree with you, they're both rolling on all cylinders and tulsa is not a team that you want to trust to to stop the renewed, revamped, uh, military offense that that both of the, the real academies, are running there. So now I'm I don't want any part of that one. 

14:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I gotta be honest, no I haven't I bet army, but you don't want any part of that one. I got to be honest. No, I haven't, I bet Army, but you don't want to hear that number. Bad, bad opener. Back to Mitchell. I'm seeing it is. Mitchell Was an old man's middle name. Pretty sure it came from Montreal. 

14:55 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
From. 

14:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Montreal yeah, do you think Temple has a shot at going over the two-and-a-half win total? I bet an irresponsible amount. You total. I bet, uh, an irresponsible amount. You and I bet a lot on the under. What do we get, though? A much different number, right? Yeah, we have three and a half. Do we have three and a half, or do we have higher? No, three and a half, I guess three and a half. Um, so they're sitting on. I made it two and a half and they got a win already so, and they're going to be an underdog in every game from here on out, right, I mean the only game that they're not going to be, I would say, a significant underdog. 

15:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
The rest of the way, is Florida. 

15:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh shit, we got under two and a half on the show though. Sorry, Mitchell, Hope you lose, I mean. 

15:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't like. Do you say over or under two and a half? 

15:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, he bet under. He bet under. Yeah, he fell. 

15:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh he's been under all right all right. 

15:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Um, it's not the best looking bet right now. I don't think we're. I still think we're slightly favored, uh, because they're still gonna be an underdog in every game. 

15:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They're gonna have to pull a couple upsets yeah, tulsa at home, florida atlantic at home, would be the two that you'd look at as potentials for them. Um, but they're I mean Evan Simon's out this week. That number versus you kind of ain't winning this week. 

16:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll tell you that, not against that machine. 

16:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They might as well be playing the 85 Bears this way off contender and uh in the Northeast there, um, but yeah I, I my guess it was. They pull one short upset and it's 2-10. I would agree with that. 

16:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And then you wonder if they suffer a couple more losses, fire the coach, I don't know. Not a good, just a really tough schedule for them, starting with this week against the soon-to-be national champion, connecticut huskies. Not in basketball and football, and I'm joking uh, fabulous one, uh, back to him. Uh, ucla plus 28, too gross. Look ahead for nittany lions. There's, uh, jimmy franklin, uh, kicking his chops, licking his chops, uh. And then they got a quarterback. That's banged up too. So I actually bet Penn State here. So make sure, if you're going to bet it, take 28 and a half, Don't bet 28. I lean Penn. 

17:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
State. I mean I don't love the number. I will say I don't think UCLA has looked competent in a game this year Like they're they're I mean it's they did cover last week, they've covered the last two games. 

17:30
They've covered. The last two I will. I don't. I don't know if they would. They were deserved covers. Maybe the LSU one in Oregon. I thought they got 30. They just they got. Really have nothing on offense, I don't know. And maybe the performance that we thought we'd get out of Penn State versus Illinois you get this week out of UCLA and they just clobber them. So yeah, I'm not dying to get involved in that. I would need it to go up a bit more. I just don't really want to play the UCLA side. I would need a little bit more margin in the number to want to play them. 

18:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Penn, the UCLA side. I would need a little bit more margin in the number to want to play them. Penn State USC on that man, this week's a little tame as far as the matchups, but next week one of the best weeks of the year. 

18:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Pull up. I think that game is up at. 

18:19 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
What game? 

18:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Penn State USC. 

18:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Penn State USC All right, I haven't done that yet. I would guess Penn state one, two and a half. I got no bet. What do you like? 

18:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I might've got on it a little earlier today. I did lay some uh, some Penn state uh money line there like one 20. Um, I kinda I think that's a. That's a bad matchup for USC, in my opinion. 

18:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll tell you what Barry the lead, you, son of a bitch, got me on that head-to-head, whereas USD Wisconsin, I'm up 21-10, catching more than two touchdowns. Nope, no, lead safe when it's coming to me head-to-head against the Knish. And I gave you the. I shouldn't have gave it back. I have given that the tv, even though I had nothing. Oh no, I did have a wisconsin bet I can't, you know I should. 

19:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I gave it back to you on the saturday show with the kennesaw, my, my, my kennesaw. Uh, folks didn't come through for me there. They didn't come through for us with enough points either, but uh I didn't that sucked uh I think we might have another head-to-head though this week good. 

19:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, yeah, I mean the two and a half, I don't know. I mean, I agree I think penn state wins. So I, I'm looking at my power rings, it is one. So I was a decent guess by me. Uh, yeah, I, I don't know. I I still think usc and they're gonna take body bows this week this is this week's not, they'll be minnesota probably, but again, they're just gonna continue to take these, aren't layups for them every week, like they, you know, like the great usc teams would have in the pack 12. I mean, it's just I hear you. So, yeah, I think you made a good bet there in penn state. Uh, scuba cw, love the show baby. Uh, I'm ashamed to ask what do you think about the kennesaw state jacksonville state game? I'll hang up and listen. I bet kennesaw, me too. Yeah, I just came too high in the open, uh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 

20:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm sorry, I thought I heard you wrong. 

20:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I I'm actually on jacksonville state here, but I'll go ahead and head what's the number, though you want it? 

20:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
oh that look, I bet 13 and a half. 

20:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well see, that's all this is folks, yeah, and we act like it's all you know. The the math guys will come in. It's just, it is just numbers. I took 17, 16 and a half. Yeah, man, that's just all this is I would. 

20:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would lay a smaller plan 14, if you could get it we'll go ahead and head at 14 and a half. 

20:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to do that? 

20:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
or no, I don't want to lay the exactly see, that's all this is. 

20:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So that's all this is I do. 

20:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's pretty bad, though I do think I if jacksonville state found a little something on offense, their defense is still bad. Now can kennesaw exploit that? 

21:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know, but weren't they like plus six, and turnovers, though, against southern mist, prior to the bye last week. 

21:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, hey, sometimes the ball bounces your way. 

21:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Not enough. I bet the over in that game and couldn't get home that was ridiculous. Jacksonville State scored 40, some points and I didn't get the over. Yeah, I, I just kind of saw going to win a game, I don't know man. 

21:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
On paper no. 

21:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean they're going to. 

21:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You can't take UT Martin at home? I don't know, I mean. 

21:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got more than a field goal dog in every game. I mean a touchdown dog, yeah, a touchdown underdog in every game we're going to have to pull. We thought that about Sam Houston last year, last year, but I mean the difference was sam houston was close in a lot of these games, uh against decent teams. Uh, all right, we'll pass on that one. Uh, number dependent. Would you make it 14 or 15? And that's about where I made it right, yeah, I you know what. 

22:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I just saw a little bit of 13 and a half. I thought would close higher, oh, but they're even like the Pat Krause of 14. So it was just kind of a scoop up on one of the 13 and a half that was out there. 

22:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fair enough, nicholas in the chat. Going to the Oklahoma State game on Saturday, do you like Oklahoma State minus four? If you don't, does the line move towards Oklahoma State or West Virginia? I took a little West Virginia, I would still lean that way. I'm, you know, close to my number, though I mean I'm right around four. I'm not sure oklahoma state's any good, remember they? I mean they got fortune in the arkansas game. West virginia is off a buy. I'm more on the west virginia side where you at oh, I was gonna. 

22:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You know what? If they're, I thought we'd maybe have a shade at four and a. I would have said let's do it as a best bet, but it looks like three and a half at FanDuel at the moment. 

22:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah let's come back to that one. See, I do like West Virginia. Probably that's a good one for your round robin on Friday too. I mean, obviously, if I think they cover, I think they could win. I'm scared. I mean, I betoma state win totals and I'm scared right now. I even got good numbers on the win totals. I guess all that flack we took it might be coming right back around to where we were after the south alabama game last year. So no, they're not that good. We'll see if he can write the ship there. That's a pretty important game for both teams. Yeah, uh to get a win. Yeah, I need the loser does not meet, come anywhere close to meeting. I can see about preseason expectations, d-league 23. When you guys consider a quick uh 20 to 30. Would you guys consider 20 to 30 second recaps on all the best bets from the week prior, just like that, to get a quick thoughts on each Uh? I guess we could. We have so many, though. I mean I'd take up like half the show. I'm just joking. 

23:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We could do. Yeah, if we maybe is a select few. 

23:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, we'll normally get to them by the time you know the chat starts. Uh, you know we could take questions on any game, so but I that's a pretty good suggestion. We can maybe recap it and do that on monday. We'll do it, we'll start next monday, I'll commit to it. You don't have to do it, I can do it. We can do it all off top of the head and I just ask you for a few comments. So I'm probably we could plow through it. Uh, that's what she said. Uh, brett pond in the chat. Any thoughts on? Uh, houston tcu. Uh, I bet houston and the under. Again, I don't know if I'm running there now, but that's where I was on the game. I think there's obviously correlation. 

24:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I agree with you. I didn't, I didn't really take part in there, but I'm I'm with you in terms of Houston's offense sucks, but I just couldn't get above. 

24:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, I took it above when it was above three scores. 

24:52
Houston's defense is competent. Yeah, there's correlation. You like the favorite, you probably like the over. I feel like the dog. See, I wouldn't be betting it at 15.5. Again, it was a long time ago, so no in the past. Right now, thoughts on A&M minus two or Wake Forest plus five. I like the A&M side more, but I don't want Wegman playing. What's your thoughts on that? Wake Forest it seems like the sharp side. There's seasons on the brink too, but I definitely think that I'm not part of the Wake Forest money so far, but that that seems like the sharp side. Handicapping 101. 

25:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I love, I'm, I'm, we're gonna. We might have a head to head. I'm, I like mizzou this week, um, I'm, uh, I'm going. Especially, I was able to get a three. I think they're live, we're going out two what's, what do we got? Uh, one, you want to go now at two. What do we got? 

25:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
One and a half. 

25:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Let's go one and a half All right, all right, I'm in, you're in All right, good, nice head-to-head here. I'm buying that team who are? 

26:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
they playing, I'm playing anybody? 

26:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I just you know what. I think they're a little bit more stable than Texas A&M. I agree. You know what, I think they're a little bit more stable than Texas A&M. I agree with you. I don't love if Wiegman's going to come back off a multi-week layoff and they're going to try and play him. I don't love that. For the Texas A&M offense, I agree, missouri's offense has been clunky in some spots. I just like the coaching staff of the team a little better. So for me Missouri is a little bit of a short jog. I like it. 

26:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Biggest strength to schedule disparity in college football. This week Plus first road game for Missouri, Kyle Field A&M. Baby, Looking forward to that one now. 

26:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Is that a noon game? Is that a? 

26:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
noon game. We might as well make the announcement. If that's the noon game oh yeah, I think it is. It's the noon ABC game. Oh, we got UCLA, penn State that's a blowout. Smu Louisville, which is a good, you know, decent game, mike, like Louisville there. No, that's, that'll be our Saturday game. Mizzou A&M at noon. Boom, there we go. Big announcement for Saturday. Make sure you tune into the Saturday shows for halftime of Mizzou and A&M Brett in the chat. Thoughts on East Carolina move today. Ecu, take a ton of money. 

27:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm part of it, but I was on it yesterday. Yeah, it looks like it Up to nine. Yeah, that was. There were some questionable openers for this. 

27:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, this late in the week, yeah, so I think circa opened this like four um, I did you get that one, I did not I, I, but I took this. I think the second hit on that one I laid six, but I I hit, bet it said six. I'm like I'll still bet it. That one was bad yeah, that was bad. 

27:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Um, there was a lot virginia tech, three back one was bad. Yeah, yeah, the yukon um. So, yeah, they had a couple. I will it's getting. I tell you what though I watched, because I'm a sick man. I watched a lot of that charlotte rice game. Oh God, you are sick. That Charlotte quarterback is so bad, he's so inaccurate, and I get why they're playing him, because he's got a big arm and it's like we need to. You know, like he hit that ridiculous 80-yard pass to like get him down inside the 10. Then they're going to and then they get like a pass interference. It still took them like three shots to get there inside the one. Um, I don't know, I kind of think east carolina rolls them even I do too. 

28:40
Anything under 10 it's worth. Yeah, even gun to my head now, I'd still. I'd still lay it yeah, agree they. 

28:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean they got two very, very fortunate wins. I mean Gardner Web Game was fortunate for them. I know that sucks. I keep forgetting. I bet their win total under. I'm going to have to sweat that one out Unbelievable. Well, I got to look at these win totals. It ain't looking portfolio ain't looking good. I might pass on win totals next year, I say that, but whatever good. I might pass on windows next year, I say that, but whatever. Uh, brad also asked about kansas, arizona state uh I took kansas. 

29:18
No, yeah, but I mean I took four. Come on you, I'll go ahead and add a three. 

29:23 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Even you want to go ahead and head yeah, chalk it up, zach, we'll take out three, let's go ahead and head out not the old uh fan dual shade on that one, we'll do. We'll do three, we'll do three all right, I laid some arizona state it open when it was like, yeah, there was like pick minus one and a half or something like that, but a lot of disagreement with some of these numbers yeah, there's some. 

29:49
Yeah, I mean there's a lot of back and forth in this one, I don't. I mean you keep kind of waiting for kansas to put it together, especially offensively, and it you might be right on your total nikki. Uh, like the kansas offense without him is not not functioning the same. And even with, you know, jalen daniels like it, it just doesn't look right week after week and I'm not blaming that. I'm not going to put it all on Daniels. 

30:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You know what I got. How would you like 10 on this game? That's what I bet in the summer on this game. 

30:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No. 

30:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I got 11. I just looked but no, I like Kansas, I'm not middling, just a middle, I don't know. I mean I hear you Arizona State two of their wins are not aging that great Wyoming and Mississippi State. So I don't know, We'll see All right head-to-head at three. I'll give you a half point there. You keep that in mind for other future head-to-heads. You keep that in mind for other future heads. Ryan Hart, Old Dominion or no, Brad also asked about Bowling Green dominating Akron. I'm not there on the number, I hear you, but that was devastating for the win totals. I was watching that game. They couldn't get off the field on fourth down on that final drive. And who are your moles on the freaking Old Dominion quarterback, the regular starter played Wilson's running around and shit. Oh my God, that info was bad. 

31:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, yep, yep, I know, I know, I know, and he was. I mean, he didn't. Bowling Green shouldn't have lost that game. 

31:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, they shouldn't have. They were not the right side at any point really in that game. They were fortunate actually actually to take the lead there late. They missed a field goal. Old Dominion had a personal foul. Bowling Green then scored a touchdown to go up. I'm like, okay, we'll get a lucky win. I'll take it because I need it for the win total. Nope, all the way down the field. That sucks. Did you bet this game? I bet you laid it with BG. 

31:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It looked a little light on the open I actually, so I didn't get in. I'm I'm probably a buyer at 14, though maybe I'm wait. I think this will tick maybe back a bit. I know there's a couple smatterings out there. 13 and a half. I'm definitely in um, but yeah, I'm gonna lay this at some point. 

32:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Akron what was the akron money? Was that bad info too? I don't know. 

32:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ohio game that closed like what eight yeah, yeah, and that they just I mean it was close, it was close early. 

32:14 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But man the box score says I mean that ohio should have won by three touchdowns. Right, right, oh, it's mac a I'm not gonna lose your mac guys. I mean, I'll tell you what, if they're my mac guys, they'd be you're fired. 

32:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean seriously the old dominion one. I will was surprised the mac mac, when I was hearing some tea leaf. But the old dominion, yeah was uh, and that that got. The market took that out too. So yeah, I, um, we'll have to get it back this week with bg baby all right, we'll revisit that one on friday. 

32:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, speaking of dominion, reinhardt likes old dominion plus five, I don't. I'm more on the coastal side this week. 

32:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, I'm not I, I did. You lay that already no, not yet. 

33:05 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was waiting. Have you yet? Where's the five? I was waiting. Have you yet Where's the five? I was waiting to see some ODU money come in, but I, I would be four and a half. Are we playing? Are we going? That's best bet. Have we had one yet? No, we haven't. Jesus, 37 minutes on the show, this sucks, are we? Uh? 

33:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm in on coastal four and a half yeah let's do it. Four and a half Boom, do it. Four and a half boom, best back coastal. Yeah, I uh I like the spot yeah, I like the spot. I like their offense too against old to me, like I don't think old dominion has the offense here to to kind of keep up with coastal a little undervalued at the moment too. 

33:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So all right, good best bet folks yeah, those of you that stood with us for 38 minutes. 

33:53
There's your first one, not your last one, all right, definitely not. We'll at least have a couple more here. Uh, 20 mc20, indiana and sam houston have a chance to be my first win totals home this weekend. Have you guys had any decided yet? Also, anything catch your eyes, future wise, currently trying to think if I've had anything. I'm close on new mexico, over one and a half. Uh, we have under two and a half, so I, that's a they've got thread the needle there. Uh, indiana's a great bet, but you guys, sam houston, I did uh bet that one. I don't know, I haven't really looked. Have you Do you know when totals are decided? Notre Dame's close under 10 and a half. 

34:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Florida State. All the numbers is one of them oh yeah, oh man. 

34:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And the alt numbers, all the alt numbers are going to hit on that one. 

34:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What could you have? 

34:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
gotten under four and a half at like 10 to one, 20 to one. 

34:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Great. I mean Indiana man, jesus Christ. They are a week after we and quite a battle in the market last week with maryland indiana. Maryland indiana battle there, and then on the second half it was just like they leaned on them, like it. 

35:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That that's they are, they are good, minus foreign turnovers, and they covered right. You know how rare that is. Right, I mean, you lose a turnover battle period. You are such a big. I think the team that wins a turnover battle covers like 70% of the time. It is literally the most important stat to covering a points rate. We looked it up. It's actually more important than who's winning the game at halftime. I did like 20 years of research on this. It was the NFL related, but it research on this it was the nfl related. But uh, it's unbelievable. And they were minus four internalers, still one covered. There is such a machine again. I I'll say it again, dogging only one game at ohio state late november. We bet indiana the playoff. 

35:40 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, I'm not there, I don't think I'm there yet either, but I just don't think they get the benefit of it out. 

35:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
This ain't, you know, indiana basketball, bobby knight, they're just. I think they're gonna have to go 11 and one to make it and the strength of schedule is not great. Uh, eat that. Thoughts on boise state against utah state. You know I didn't bet it but I was pretty happy with boise state's performance last weekend. They had I'll tell you what I had. Uh, they had a bunch of, like wide receivers out and stuff like that so I mean that was impressive. 

36:10
They had like two starters out, you think any shot at the heisman I'd you know I'd prefer him over hunter, just to keep people quiet, right oh yeah, I know for for pub I. I just as a fan. Yeah, he should be in. He should be in. He should be in New York. I mean, you watch the tape. I mean he's one of the five best players in America. Yeah, Is he going to win it? No, but I mean he could be a finalist, that would be a good story. 

36:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think that's probably where it tops out at is I just I feel like there's going to be one of the quarterbacks that goes 11 and one or undefeated yeah and then probably takes it who's? 

36:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
who's alabama losing to? I know, maybe tennessee on the road, but I, yeah, are we sure? Are we sure on tennessee? I'm not yet because I, you know we had an old miss situation last week. Yeah, they're good, they're good. You haven't played anybody and I know Tennessee played NC State and Oklahoma, but those two teams, in my opinion, aren't great. 

37:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We've got a super chat. 

37:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, we've been waiting to talk this. One baby Shiler, hopefully I'm saying that one right, shuler, shuler. 

37:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, Shuler, I mean this guy, everybody's super chatting here, but from around the globe. I mean we're just two Midwest guys here, we can barely speak English. 

37:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I know, I can barely pronounce some German names. Yeah, Michigan going to be part of the round robin this week. I understand Lincoln Washington has a dog, but it's a three-point favorite. Oh, here we go. I get it. Travel, but still are we going head to head on this game? 

37:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yes, I listen, I bet some three today. I think I can't. I can't get to. I can't get to three. I understand all the issues with Michigan's offense but I think you're getting the better overall football team as a there's been a battle here. 

38:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Went to flashback two and a half went back to three. There's going to be a battle then. 

38:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, it seems like that's where the kind of the back and forth is. Will Johnson. 

38:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You want to go head to head at two and a half. 

38:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
We'll wait. We'll wait till Friday's show. See where it's at. 

38:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So we're not, because you know the money's gonna come out of washington. I can tell you this, the tout service will probably, depending on where the line is. I'm going to feel the market out a little bit because this market I thought set up great for like friday release. I completely was like I bet this, this and this. I mean, here we go. I I thought some of the best numbers of the week were on friday. It's just because of a disagreement and you know, taking right around key numbers, around key numbers. I would guess the talent service has Washington just giving you. I happen to know the owner of the talent service. It'll be Washington at some point this week. Maybe Moneyline Ryan, new member. We appreciate you and I gotta look here. There we go, I gotta find my place. Sorry, I lost it. You had me all discombobulated on the Huskies. Well, yeah, dude, that's handicapping 101,. Dude, come on, you like Michigan. 

39:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Plus three. What do you always say? Preach number three points. They're better than Michigan. 

39:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

39:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Stewart's back, will Johnson's back, samaj Morgan's back. Yeah, I had pick, I could see it. I pick, I could see it, okay. 

39:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There will be battles on that one That'll probably be back and forth of any of the games this week. Where am I at, man? I got to scroll way up. Spammy Sosa. Is SMU going to be part of the Moneyline round robin this week, Is it? 

39:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's in consideration. I don't love you know what I will say. I was impressed significantly by the way that and I know it's Florida State and everybody's throwing the jokes around there the fact that they really stepped on the throat second half, that was pretty impressive. With that said, for for two guys, no, no, I'm just oh, dog, dog, wait, maybe now it's definitely in the round robin here. Yeah, now we're definitely. I thought we kind of like maybe this is just hindsight 2020. I thought our uh, I know we didn't give it as a best bet because it was six and a half year louisville plus seven was 100% the right side. 

40:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It was man. I like Louisville this week. We'll see where that line is on Friday. All right, another hint I think a tout surface will have Louisville. I was impressed with Louisville. Man shucked through their pass game was. I mean they made two, three throws and two, three catches that are as good as any of I've seen in college football this year. I thought you know Brown schemed some good stuff up, but his clock mismanagement was pathetic. So Louisville impressed me. They were the right side in the game. 

41:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think they hammered us. 

41:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Just letting you know. Okay, spoiler alert, birdie man, why are people betting northwestern iowa this week? I bet iowa. I didn't bet northwestern, but again, I played a number 21 and a half. I'm telling you, man, I haven't watched a ton of the buck guys, but I followed along a little bit. Michigan state had three turnovers in the red zone. This ohio state team I. I think I'm gonna be on oregon next week, man, I'm just letting you know yeah, I mean, I didn't bet I. 

41:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, the indiana steam comes every week for good reason, so I, I didn't. If you were, you definitely didn't want to get in on northwestern early. Um, I don't know if I want to get in Northwestern at any point, to be honest with you, um, but I will. 

42:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't 13 and a half. I would be more likely best bet Indiana at this point stopping this machine. 

42:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know, I know that's what I it opened the line. I was like dude, should we, god damn, should we do it? I will say, um, I'm, I kind of want, we, you want to go. What's the? We might have another head-to-head, I think I'm a buck, I game yeah what's the number? 

42:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I took 21 and a half. You want to go head-to-head on that? 

42:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, because our sponsor fan duel. 

42:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We do the current number unless we I just gave you a half point on a game, zach. 

42:34 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What's the line? Iowa. 

42:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Ohio State Rotation. Well, they don't do rotation. 

42:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll give you 20. 

42:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, I don't want 20. Oh yeah. 

42:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's a key number Nah. 

42:53 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll revisit it on Friday. Yeah, you like the Buckeyes to roll there? 

43:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, listen, nobody's a bigger Iowa hater than me in the country. So even in parts of Nebraska where there's like corn battles and stuff, I don't think the Iowa offense functions against Ohio State and it's just a once. Let's just say they move the football Marsha moved the football. 

43:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll see. 

43:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Those teams use the forward pass, unlike the Hawkeyes in this one. That's a good comeback. 

43:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Touche Kristoff Harper, rutgers plus seven. Handicapping 101 would say Nebraska, but I played a power rating. I bet Rutgers plus seven. 

43:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I did too. 

43:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah. I hate betting them off such a misleading game, but where's that one at man? Damn it. No Seven, I'd be like, yeah, best bet. I mean. I don't trust Nebraska to lay a number, yet Rutgers is still very solid up front on both sides. Yeah yeah, Menunga is a. That's a running back folks. 

44:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'm with you on that, I agree. Just touchdown a little too steep in this one. 

44:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, another one we'll revisit on Friday. Zach, have a future on Wazoo to make the college football playoff. Yeah, it's dead. Yeah, yeah Are they in if they run the table or not? No, I think they had to run the table or they need so much chaos. It's dead. Yeah, they got blown out. Yeah, nick, in the chat, thoughts on swallowing the entire points with Florida State at 15. Figured, glenn, can't be worse than DJU. I did make that bet when you at on that one. 

44:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, you did take Florida State. 

44:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I did. I must be a sucker, because I bet them last week. Hey, that was a. Did you seeking a bad beat? We didn't even talk about that one. We bet them first half. Did you see what happened there? I did. I guess I'm announcing the one yard line. Yeah the fuck, I mean it's now. They start looking at it. I was like, oh my what, that should have been a big week. 

45:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know, I know we did. Yeah, we should have been, you know a monster week. 

45:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, my goodness, what's going on oh man, yeah, I'm going to go through. Yeah, I I'm gonna go through. I'm gonna tell you what this off season. I'm gonna go through the bet stamp. I'm gonna look at our close wins and losses because I bet it's. I'm just not saying this to bitch, but I bet on this show. It's 30, 30, 35, it has to be it's been some painful. 

45:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I mean, that's the only and I know it's juiced up there that's the only third. 

45:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean there's 15 and a half out there would you like 13 and a half, only 30, I mean there's 15 and a half out there. 

45:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Would you like 13 and a half? I just gotta, maybe, mr muscles is watching the show. 

45:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He says dj's out for florida state what do you think of uh glenn? Oh I don't think much, honestly here. 

45:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean and I know this just happened with the unlv drama my usual thing with quarterbacks is if you were start, if, like, I mean, this guy's been in the program for two years, he, he had some atrocious stats last year. Is I just? I just pulled up he's, yeah, his stats, I think 37 percent completions. I, I can't do it, I mean. 

46:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm not doing a 13.5. I don't want it to be a part of the Chad's been saying Clemson since we went live from Zach. Everyone wants Clemson. I don't really. Is that what you want? You want Clemson 13.5? Eh. 

46:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, I think it's going to close well, based on what I'm seeing out there. 

46:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, go ahead, man 13.5. Go ahead, you want to best bet it. 

46:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Sure Lock it in Zach. 

46:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
There you go. 

46:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, it's just not going to be like. 

46:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it's not, it's going to close fire. I don't know what the. I don't like the Glenn. It's certainly not the UNLV situation which we kind of buried. The lead there. I mean that's. Oh, they got better. 

47:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I yeah, I'll take the L there, because yeah that. 

47:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, you weren't. You could have been right there with me sitting next to me at the spring game and you would have been like, yeah, he can actually throw the football. And guess what? Their best play, their best player on offense, can actually touch the football. Now, ricky white, 100 plus yards, 10 catches, that was that. Yeah, he ricky. Why was lucas starting, though? That were? I mean, what was it? 

47:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
it wasn't nil, I don't know, but I agree with you. Now, after seeing that it's like and hodge ran for over 100 yards. 

47:38 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, boy, the market's telling you that he is an upgrade. Because what are they there? 

47:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was just oh, we had the super chat too. Uh, about, about this game. 

47:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh then ben I'm using seven benjamin. Uh, you have to at it Seven. Yes, I agree, I think there's. There was some buyback at six, six and a half yeah. 

48:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't. I didn't never saw a flat seven. If you see a flat seven, you have to. Yeah, I agree, I agree. What about six and a half juice there? It just moved. 

48:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh my God, yeah, six, or just moved. Oh my god, yeah, six or more. I'd be interested in circus. I did bet the game, unlv. You don't want to know the, you don't want to know the line, uh. So, uh, I'll be at the game. I'm going right after the show, friday, yeah, right after the show wraps up, I'm heading down there. Big game, big, probably the biggest home game they've had here forever. I know the Mountain West Championship game last year, but non-conference, that's big. All right, get to it. Tennessee plus eight and a half at Georgia. 

48:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
That's one of the look at futures there if they head up at FanDuel. 

48:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did you bet these? 

48:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Not that one, uh-oh. See you are buying them I don't get texts. I'm joking with you. No, they just said they dropped some more. Uh, today that were, but this was like 14 and a half, like a week or two ago. Um, yeah, now it's down, I think it's in range right now I'd say that's where I'd make it. I'm telling you, you gotta we, I need it. I need some information on Tennessee's offensive line, because that against Oklahoma they were like dropping like flies so, and that I bet Arkansas this week? 

49:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh yeah, I wouldn't bet it. Now, again, I don't know what was with the openers. I don't know Some people left and they're, you know they're getting preparing for college basketball or uh, what nhl starts this week, nba, I know, I know, maybe you know they got to divert some of the attention, but yeah, it's some bad openers yeah, oh so a market battle here three letter service on arkansas state and then some buyback on South Bama. 

49:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Do you think? 

49:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
you're Well, I understand, I bet Arkansas State pure numbers, but you dive into the numbers you're like holy shit, this Arkansas State team is a fraud or a phony. So I understand why there's a battle. Gio Lopez is playing. 

50:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, he's good, yeah, I just yeah. No, looks good to go. No, I just yeah, no, looks good to go. 

50:17 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, I just you know what's that, zach Basic power running says Arkansas State, and then you dive into some of the metrics and you're like South Alabama's going to kill this team. 

50:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like South Alabama under three. Where's that now? Two and a half. 

50:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
If you want a best bet, go ahead. 

50:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Give it to me, Zach Boom. Yeah, I'm in Another best bet. 

50:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, we're making progress here. It's kind of subdued. I blame my, you know, maybe I'm kind of low E I didn't have an extra cup of coffee today, so I apologize for that, because we know you're off the. You're off the seat. Yeah, yeah, uh, you don't need it, though I do. Austin embry. Virginia tech stanford plus nine a lot of movement on virginia tech daniels is out for stanford and the back is out yeah wow, yeah, virginia tech they, I think they're uh. 

51:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I would say he got. I think he got hurt in the last game. 

51:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The presumption is he's out, uh, for this week he played a lot better than that final against clemson. 

51:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm just letting you know, I agree I agree I agree, but I thought virginia tech also had their best game of the season versus Miami. What are we? 

51:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
doing with that? Are we doing anything? Lampson has played, but he can't throw. 

51:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, he's like a wildcat guy. That's why the under took a ton of money too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's moved too far now. Yeah all right. 

51:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Boom. Well, I'll tell you what. The opener didn't have. That info on the Stanford quarterback, yeah, no it did not. 

52:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I'll talk. I'll talk to you after show on this one. Just because it stayed there, I think they must something either glitched or because it stayed at Three for five minutes, so I'm wondering I mean, maybe five minutes is presumptuous, but like it was there sitting three for oh man, I could have I don't know, I just moved on to the next game. Yeah, that's usually right, yeah but I I was noticing, because usually it's boom, a snap move after yeah, it must have been something yeah, yeah, it will move after a bet. 

52:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's why it's tough to get bets on those. Uh, arthur in the chat, hey fellas, navy minus nine and a half what do you so? 

52:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
the hiss, the all the trends, all the trends, add the z's baby would tell you that this, this, this is a, a double digit. You know service academies. You know 16, 20 over the last 80 years, I don't know. I mean, I've seen five data points or four data points on air force that they're absolutely awful. 

53:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I do not want anything to do with air force. 

53:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I can tell you that. 

53:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll be honest with you. Let the trends oh, bad service Academy unders. This Navy offense is a different story, folks. They got the new OC from Mercer, who's going to be head coach soon. I don't know what's it down to 34 and a half. I mean fucking Navy can get Wyoming. Put 31 on them. So I mean this. 

53:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Air Force team sucks. Yeah, they're brutal. I mean losing to multiple scores to that Wyoming team. 

53:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That was a regret because my power rings were screaming Wyoming last week. I'm bad at it, but not big. We'll revisit that one on Friday. I know that sounds like a broken record on today's show, but I'm actually interested in being contrarian. Navy and over what do you think about that, I guess? And navy's defense could shut them down, although this isn't a great navy, correlated parlay baby navy and over yeah, I just want to see how low this total, because you know the trends are. 

54:09
You know it's like 90 percent unders in service academy games. 

54:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You can't ever get away from them. The week of these games yeah, but they've been going. 

54:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They've been so damn low and get bet low that there's actually it's pretty cheap to bet the over and the last. What two army navy games have gone over on the last play of the game? Uh, uh well, I might try to go to that game again this year. Army-navy. That might be a hell of a game. Might be a couple of 10-win teams. Yeah, rolling in the chat Michigan State plus 24. Think they can keep it close to Ed Oregon. I think it's a tough spot. 

54:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean they probably should have covered last week versus Ohio State. But you're talking about a brutal back-to-back Ohio State. But you're talking about a brutal back-to-back. Their offense leaves a lot to be desired at the moment. With Giles it's so erratic with what you're getting out of him. I think in that second half versus Ohio State I think he had like 10 yards passing and then they ended up putting in the second stringer after it. But once they dialed it up after the Smith scripted plays were out, there was nothing left there. I think there'll be spots to back Sparty here coming up. When have you? 

55:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
seen the schedule. Yeah well, Against your Michigan Wolverines, Iowa too. 

55:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like those matchups a lot better than this one. Agree, well said. 

55:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Zach a super chat. Appreciate 10 bucks More. 

55:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Tim Hortons for the other, Zach Marshall versus App State Our Zach's going to be. You know, I'll tell you a Zach story after you finish this. 

55:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Marshall versus App State. I'm sure you guys saw, but the App State campus was completely destroyed by those floodwaters. Got to wonder where their team and coaches' heads are at there. Zach, I'll tell you what you are a mind reader. Best comment we got all day because tout service gave out Marshall for exactly your handicap. I don't know what's the practice situation. I know I was just there last year. They have an indoor facility and stuff, but I just how was your mind on football with the total devastation? It can't be. 

56:25 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, those were some wild, some wild shots, just in terms of like this wild situation too, of like you know that people not being able to communicate and stuff like that get out of there, so an area that hasn't flooded in like I don't know 100 years or 1916 or whatever it was. Um, yeah, that's, that's good, and just let's take all that out of it and their team sucks. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna. I was gonna say I think this app state team's kind of terrible. I know what's the line at right now. 

56:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Pull that up, zach. I'll best bet it. I think. Oh no, never mind. And somebody pushed it. Everyone keeps pushing back. Hey, the top service is actually doing well this year. I don't know, I keep betting against me, I don't care. But I saw it like came back to two and a half. Then did it get re-bought back? 

57:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah Re-bought. I agree with the play. I liked it under 3. 

57:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Shop around 3.5 is the worst number because there's still a lot of 2.5. I'm telling you, if you can find a 2.5, best bet Boom. Favorite bet right now on the board at 2.5. That's just me, because I don't know where they're at and even on the field, remember the last time we've seen them Not good against South Alabama. Zach says we can do a 2.5 because they're widely available. We are doing a 2.5. Minus 2.5, marshall. Best bet Boom. There you go another one. Let's wrap this up Just a few more and then we'll recap best bets. Uh, connor, we talked about the jayhawks. Uh, condition, I have a head-to-head there, nevada plus seven from tommy finn. I, uh, I did bet nevada, but I don't know if I'm there at seven. Are you there? 

58:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
not at seven. I agree some of the opening numbers yeah, not at seven what do we think of the total? 

58:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
oh, I lean over oh so nevada gets. You know, they finally get a bye week. 

58:25
I think they can, you know yeah, they can't say there's, you know, playing with some tempo, they haven't had great success. But obviously the washington state game, well, won't that do a little more investigation? Handicapping on that one that might be a sneaky over. Okay, let's see. Let's see what the groups do with that one, because I, I think, got with. You know, first instinct was, oh, under, no, I I think it's opposite that a guy asked we talked about the unlv game. Uh, you guys are too funny today. Thank you, I really need it. Have we been funny? 

58:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know uh, did he like the guy, baby guy. Yeah, yeah, there you go, kanishi prime living it up doing a. The lord is out here for me and shadur baby, they're gonna win the big 12. 

59:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
did we bet that? No, I think. Uh, tent has that. Oh, I mean, I will never hear the end of it, oh my goodness. 

59:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
From Dion's family or him. 

59:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, that's going to be ugly, I'm going to have to. I'm just thinking like, what am I going to have to do? I'm going to have to go off the grid. That's going to be bad. I tried to give him credit. You know that was a great one, garrett Syracuse, not my six and a half. We're more on the dog there. Let's see where that line is on Friday. But Syracuse, I think, is the right side of the current number. Charles, best Army-Navy game since 1912. No, they've had a couple of decent ones here recently, but they've been highly. But yeah, it's going to be up there uh that they've been highly. 

59:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
But yeah, it's gonna be, it'll be up there. What did you do? Uh, what? 

01:00:03 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
row. Were you in for that one in 1912. 

01:00:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
For me, yeah yeah, I mean I'm old, I ain't that old didn't, well didn't wasn't there like a didn't one of those teams during one of the World Wars. Like win the national championship yeah. 

01:00:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Army was really good. 

01:00:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean. 

01:00:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Staubach in 63. I can remember I think they were both up there in 96 game. I remember I think they both had really good records in that one, 1996. Look it up if you don't believe me. I think Army was like 10-1 that year and then I mean they've had some good. I mean the Malcolm Perry army was like 10 and one that year and then I mean they've had some good. I mean the malcolm perry navy team, keenan reynolds. I mean there's been an army's head winning records here that there's been some good matchups. Hey, man service academy is playing good football, not air force this year. Uh, one, two more, two more, then we'll call it quits. Uh, the boise ashton genties minus 26 and a half seems mandatory. I, not mandatory for me. Off the big win lane, a big number. Utah State's off a buy off an upset loss. I'm not there, I need less. Yeah, speaking of Big 12 Conference futures BYU at 15-1 seems reasonable. No, no, I'm not in on it. 

01:01:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm not in on it. They got the Kansas State was a bit fraudulent box score. The Baylor game was again. They almost blew it at the end. I think you're buying the bottom in this instance or buying the top, whatever you want to phrase it yeah, buying the top there, the bottom of the pricing. So no, not for me. 

01:01:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'd rather. Yeah, I'd rather not. Are you anywhere on them? I'm just keeping the portfolio and letting it ride from the start of the season. I can tell you this If Colorado puts together, I mean, they're going to win it. If they play like that, they won't though. No, what's Utah at right now? By? 

01:01:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
low. Is Cam Risen ever going to play again, or are we just going to do the dance every? 

01:01:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
single week. 

01:01:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, they're off they got to figure it out on this. Bye. Oh, wisconsin, let's fire through. We got to fire through the last eight here. All right, all right. 

01:02:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Rapid fire. Tulane and UAB seem super short. I bet Tulane. 

01:02:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Did you bet that game? I agree with you. I did bet Tulane. I can't even think of the number off the top of my head, though, sox fan asked about the Michigan-Ohio State game. 

01:02:21 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Hey, man, you like the Michigan at 7 or whatever, 7.5?, 10.5?, 19.5. 

01:02:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'd really like it at 19.5. I don't even know if I like it at 19.5. 

01:02:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But no, I did Listen. 

01:02:37 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would bet it. Maybe a note it's like the first price now during the state, where it's like actually it could go higher, though that is the other thing it could go higher. 

01:02:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, Michigan's not done losing. I'm just letting you know. Starting with this week, Jacob Duffy, Wisconsin minus 12. I didn't bet that game. Do you bet it? I mean, I would lean that way. 

01:03:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I did not bet this game yet. You're your boy. It's hard to back your boy. Lock it up Because. 

01:03:09 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, I am backing him after you cost me a head-to-head against you. 

01:03:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean now it's dead. To me, man Purdue fired their OCdue looks like what the word I mean, the worst team in the big ten, like by a touchdown another year. 

01:03:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They keep losing. 

01:03:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, the first step is always fire the coordinator, but I don't know. 

01:03:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I watched every play of the Notre Dame-Purdue game. Purdue looked like a middle-of-the-road FCS team. 

01:03:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was just going to say to give up 60 points to that Notre Dame offense is like impossible. 

01:03:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know, and here's the thing Notre Dame's backups were in there to start the third quarter and the backups were destroying them. 

01:03:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, it literally looked like a bad fcs team. The nebraska game was like zero, zero, close to half. Nebraska should have been up like 17, 21, nothing and they end up not only covering, but by margin. 

01:04:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let's revisit that one, because I don't the way we're talking this through. 

01:04:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I kind of want wisconsin you want to take 12 and a half yeah, let's wait. 

01:04:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't think you think it's going to 14. 

01:04:18 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't think so. I don't, I don't know, I mean, I don't, I'm not even a wisconsin guy, but produce all right, we'll lay it, lay it, lay it I don't think it's getting. I don't think it's coming. It ain't going back it's not coming back down. Who's uh? 

01:04:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
so graham harrell's out who they is the quarterback, who's capable on the staff? It's a defense I was gonna say like who's even I gotta look into that. That's a great question, boy, they're bad tom in the chat. Uh, beck heisman at the bottom of the market 30 to one Heisman at the bottom of the market 30 to 1. 

01:04:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Ooh, what do you think about that? 

01:04:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Boy. He was trash, oh my. 

01:04:55 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
God. Yeah, that's the problem. He's had a few Like. No, I mean his stats in the end look decent, but I don't know. 

01:05:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You've had like. After the Kentucky game and the Bama loss, they got a lot of big games left though. 

01:05:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
loss, they got a lot of big games left, though they do have a lot of big games. 

01:05:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It feels like you can't miss on any of them, though that's true. 

01:05:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Joey puck's coming up on edge work tonight so there might be a surprise joey puck's appearance this season, but edge work, edge work. Coming back um zach, when's edward I'm teeing you up here. When's edward back officially? 

01:05:33 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
back next week. First nhl game is the tuesday, october 8th, and then, uh, we are back full time, starting then monday through friday yep, I love this time of year again. 

01:05:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
The book, the sports books get distracted. 

01:05:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
There's just too much going on uh paying people to watch albert this year or it's like hit the books memberships, but reverse yeah, yeah, right yeah we send it back to them. 

01:06:00 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
Yeah, yeah, back next tuesday though yeah, all right, there we go. 

01:06:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Some cross promotion. Make sure you guys are tuning in. Uh, air force is worse than the forward progress best bets. They haven't been good. 

01:06:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I gotta give the pizza buffet credit. Not, not not forward progress, but the pizza buffet on Sunday. He hit like a, a. It was an anytime touchdown, I think three yeah, it was like 170 to one if you parlayed them all and he's been crushed. I hate to give the pizza man credit as much as anybody, but he has. He has done really well on those. Uh, the pizza buffet morning show far you had a hot start. 

01:06:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How have you done in the nfl? 

01:06:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
you yeah, how have you done? 

01:06:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I have done my last two weeks, no bueno first, first, uh, first two weeks. 

01:06:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
that was like a 90% Last two weeks losing. 

01:06:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How are you grasping any of this shit? It's just a total. Just, I don't know. This is my worst start to any NFL season, sucks, oh well. Christopher O'Donnell 999. Just want to say thanks to Brad, the old BP tout service killing it this year. No, that isn't a guy from the scent of a woman taught service killing this year. 

01:07:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, that isn't a guy from the scent of a woman. Yeah, though. Yeah, they're your favorite movie reference. Yeah, christopher o'donnell. Good, you don't know who he is I mean I looked it up after you talked about it, but he's got a pretty. 

01:07:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean, come on, I guess I'm old man do I gotta look at his 90s movie references are old 30 freaking years ago. Be like, uh, quoting movies references. There he is. He's pretty famous. He's been in a lot of stuff, been done a lot of TV work lately. I thought Wasn't he on that show with LL Cool J or something? 

01:07:41 - Zack Phillips (Announcement)
I watched that show. Yeah, yeah with LL Cool J yeah. 

01:07:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, he's done that. Show's been on for 10 years. 

01:07:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, years, yeah, he's definitely a big tv guy. 

01:07:50 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Gray's anatomy ncis, los angeles for like 15 years was a big movie guy as a kid, he was robin and batman. In the mid 90s for two movies batman forever and batman and robin he was robin. Come on, I guess my pop culture is I'm old. Aaron is not old, he's a new. New member, member, high-value conversations Vandy plus 23 and a half. The Commodores took some money today against the Crimson Tide of Alabama. Spot says screams Vanderbilt. 

01:08:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I bought some Vandy yesterday for a friend of the show. Yeah, wisconsin really got popped just now. So yeah, people were waiting on that one. 

01:08:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Shoot. I mean I did not bet. I mean that's on you guys to chat, because I mean just talking that through it's like how does? 

01:08:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
that not go. I got enough. I'll send you some if you didn't want to. 

01:08:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
No, no, you keep it, we keep it. See, I'm not a spread. The wealth guy, you hoard it. I mean the wealth guy you key, you hoard it. I mean I. If I wanted it, I would have made the bet. 

01:08:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So I mean I, I just no, as we talked it through I agree. 

01:08:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was like oh, this is, this is the way I know, just talking about see, sometimes that's all it is. Just talking it through like they don't keep that close. Wisconsin buries them. You got any closing thoughts? 

01:09:05 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
just recap the best bets no, I um I thought that was a good, good monday show. Here chat was live. 

01:09:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'll be honest, I was I was well below average today, so I'm just being. I keep it real yeah, you're. 

01:09:20 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're being too hard on yourself. You're giving it a good effort, low energy. 

01:09:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Okay, I gotta make sure I have that coffee before the show. Jack, you gotta pull up these best. I'm joking, you know. Uh, wisconsin minus 12 and a half. I'm here to tell you that's gonna be clv here in a minute. I'm just looking. That's going to 14 marshall minus two and a half. I see everyone put that back to three. Great job guys. South, south, alabama, just playing the numbers, you're right on that. One minus two and a half. Coastal minus four and a half. Clemson minus 13 and a half. Not bad, playing a lot of those are key numbers. Boy, hold on one, two, three, four five chalk. 

01:09:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh baby, we yeah. Well, if this was the NFL, we'd be, we'd be broke by uh three o'clock, but uh, yeah, no, I mean. 

01:10:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think I don't mind chalk early in the week honestly, I think typically I I'm more chalk early in the week and I turn right back and just all dog at the end of the week at all. It's all number dependent, though. Got any dogs you like, I'm looking. I don't mind throwing one up there just for giggles. Some of these were dogs. Oh, you like the Michigan Wolverines. Well, well we'll come back to Rutgers. 

01:10:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I thought you were asking about teams that should actually be an underdog. 

01:10:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, funny, we'll come back to that. The Rutgers game, if we catch a seven. West Virginia is another one we'll come back to. I'm looking. I bet Miami, ohio what's that line at now? And Salido what's your thoughts on that game? I like that game. I bet Miami, ohio what's that line at now? And Toledo what's your thoughts on that game. 

01:10:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that game. I bet that too. That was seven or seven and a half or something. Yeah, I think it dropped to under seven, though. 

01:10:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Okay. 

01:10:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that one a lot, though I agree. 

01:11:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, not now. We'll come back to that one. I'm anxious to see what the market does with that. I know they didn't look good against Massachusetts weather and stuff coming off. Three big games. I think they're live. That's money. Money line Robin material there. I agree, yeah, so that's a little sneak peek. See how that tease that's a professional tease towards what the Friday show. Friday at five you can catch us live. Comments, questions, concerns. Maybe we'll bring the sunglasses. Prime's not playing this week, though. 

01:11:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I know, bring the sunglasses. Prime's not playing this week though I know I know I week all right, or I really have them ready to go. 

01:11:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I need the gold headset too. Well, we'll see what we can do. 

01:11:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, maybe I'll buy a colorado hat expense it on pizzo. 

01:11:42 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Zach just ordered me one on pozzola's car comedy card that is right there, the man, the myth legend himself, joey knish, for producer extraordinaire zach phillips, I'm merely brad powers. Thank you to all the questions. Comments concerns you just watched hit the books, part of the hammer betting network sponsored by Fando. See you Friday.