00:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
3, 2, 1, here we go. Outro Music. All right, five o'clock on a Monday. Let's do this. Let's hit the books, part of the Hammer Betting Network. Alongside the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Knish. Producer extraordinaire, zach Phillips, not present on today's show. 

01:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So, jacob, nice enough to come in, we're going to talk about a lot of rumors swirling. 

01:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll address them here in a second. We'll obviously get to your questions, comments concerns. We'll talk about what was a pretty good weekend for the show, to say the least. We'll talk about all that. We'll talk about the upcoming slate of games. We'll recap what was an historic college football saturday as far as upsets go. 

01:28
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02:28
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02:55
I'd be remiss not to say hey, eight and one on the best bets, eight and two if you count the four teamer, but you should have made money because two of them pulled outright upsets. If you're playing them in true round-robin style, not a bad weekend. Hopefully, we get a couple more of them this season, when we get back on track. 

03:11 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I was going to say that's more like it, baby, we were doing it. It's funny. The guy who asked us to do thorough recaps of these games asked before. I don't know who that was, but we need to send him uh, the week where we have probably the best week in the history of the show, um, and you know what I? I will say we, we are. Were we fortunate in a lot of them? I don't know. That is where you know what you read my mind. 

03:35 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's where I was going with it. I don't think, um, george, I guess a little bit, but we're playing again. We're playing numbers around, key numbers. It's always what we've done. Uh, coastal, no, they led pretty much throughout clemson, controlled things. It wasn't an easy cover, but still there was that. Marshall was a great handicap by us. Another great handicap will miss. South carolina was an easy winner. Pitt was the right number. I mean, there was not a slam dunk. Wisconsin was a slam dunk were you surprised? 

04:00 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I, although the market moves. That happened over the weekend. The produce team was like yeah, I, yeah, I don't, I don't get, I don't know who was fine now. 

04:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What? Four out of five games? I don't get it. I mean they, these are sadomasochists. Betting Purdue. I mean just unbelievable. To want to bet that team just stuns me. Yeah, I couldn't now. Of all the moves, that was the most stunning. 

04:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, lock, what he didn't didn't play well, he wasn't even good like. He turned the ball over a few times. They lost will pauling for some of that game. Still win 52 to 6. Where's purdue, at wit, for you, like in your era, are they like a bottom, I mean? I mean, are we're talking like a bottom 5, 10, uh team in all of FBS? Oh no, not that bad. 

04:45 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Come on, I can tell you, don't do power ratings. I mean as bad as it gets at the power five level For sure. But I mean, have you seen Kent State? Have you seen Ball State's defense? I mean, come on, there's two. 

05:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll give you Kennesaw too. 

05:04 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, kennesaw. Yeah, maybe UMass. They're bad, but I mean they're closing in. They're closing on being in the hundreds, which is really, really bad at the Power 5 level, my goodness. And just a couple weeks ago they were catching seven against Notre Dame. Man hindsight, Notre Dame should have been game of the year on that game, my goodness. 

05:25
Uh, no, I don't think we were overly enforced. It's not like you know a bunch of last second kicks or you know bad beats that went in our favor. I just I don't know. I thought we had a good, we deserved a good week. I can tell you that, yeah, you got a couple of the money line round robins. That was good. I expected you to get a couple. 

05:41
Syracuse gets a win there. They were the right side. And you beat me on Texas tech, arizona, head to head. So head to head. I don't know you had a couple, I know you got a couple on me. 

05:52
I know the two that I won A&M, missouri, and then a game I won't mention yet, but before we get to that game, let's talk about, I mean, some of the upsets, obviously. I mean the historical one being Vanderbilt. Yeah, alabama, your thoughts on that one? I didn't see it coming. Obviously it was a flat spot. I thought it was kind of priced into that line. I disagreed with the total. You can go back to Friday's show. A lot of people like the under. I did the over over, so at least there was that. But uh, I had three things. Obviously it was a flat spot. Alabama this is the worst Alabama defense in in 20 years at least. So and then, yeah, interval's not Vanderbilt this year. I mean they beat Virginia Tech in the opener. Probably should have beaten Missouri and now beat Alabama. I'm not saying they're gonna, you know, go to a bowl game or anything, but I I wouldn't. Would you be stunned if Vanderbilt pulled another big upset as a two-touchdown underdog sometime again this season? I'm not. 

06:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No for sure. I mean, as you said, like it's been good data point after good data point for Vandy this season. I mean, did they deserve to totally win out, but it wasn't the flukiest of all upsets, I'll be getting that I know their postgame win expectancy was low. 

07:06
But man expectancy was low. But man, the ability there when they got the ball to then get a few first downs and close it out because that was one of those like if you punt there you're gonna lose, like you give the ball back to that offense you're gonna lose, um, and the ability for them to get a few first downs like that, uh was just phenomenal. Where? So they're not exactly the market darling early in this week that it's gonna I'm? Are you surprised? So they're not exactly the market darling early in this week. Are you surprised that got out the two touchdowns? I saw you bet some early the numbers, but are you surprised that's sitting two touchdowns now? 

07:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it ran a little quicker than I anticipated. I did bet Kentucky. I mean, that's just an auto. That's the 1998 handicapper. 

07:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, it worked last week with Cal Miami. 

07:47 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It did and it should have won outright. I mean that was stunning. Quickly, miami's two plays away from, I mean them wanting to fire Mario Cristobal into this oncoming hurricane. I just yeah, they're unbeaten. But Miami is not a team Very shaky. I'll say this I want to bet against miami come playoff time. If they make it, I this team is not that great. Uh, vanderbilt, kentucky game 13 and a half. I mean it's tough laying point. It's gonna be a slow tempo game. Yeah, that's why there was under money coming in on the vanderbilt side last week as far as the under Tough laying points with Kentucky's offense. But I don't know, that seems about right. 

08:32 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I made it 13 and a half 14. It does seem Kentucky's defense is much more well-suited to handle Vanderbilt's offense than a number of teams they've played so far. And well, I mean I might have been guilty of this. Kentucky's defense might be like a top five-ish unit in the country yeah, good point so, um, and look at me, if you, if you look at what a couple of games they've had so far, and we'll see it this weekend, but yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't get to it now. 

08:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
um, no, if it, if it crossed, if I saw some, if it went 14 and a half I was just going to say that If you told me, hey, I'm going to bet Vanderbilt plus 14 and a half, I'm not opposed to that. So because, again, I don't think you're going to get a ton of possessions here, I just the thing is, vanderbilt's probably are they going to be totally locked in. I don't know. This is still Vanderbilt that did lose to Georgia State this year. So I mean, they're still capable of being Vandy, uh, but uh, yeah, that was uh, tennessee, arkansas. Did you have that one? 

09:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I didn't no, no, I, I mean again, I this we mentioned on the show and you know what shame on me for not being a little bit more uh, bullish and pushing it that that Tennessee's offensive line had had like cluster injuries and was having a bunch of issues, and I think you saw that exposed against arkansas. 

09:46
Their defensive front has carried them throughout the season, uh, and you know what? It's kind of one of those, the hypo offenses, very ucf-ish um, where it's just like when you go up against the peasants, it looks great, you hit a bunch of shot plays, you score a bunch of points. When you get, when you go up against somebody who can kind of stop you on some tempo, it can start to get a little bit, a little bit ugly there and a bunch of empty possessions. And so, yeah, that that one surprised me and that that kind of takes Takes Tennessee to a point where, like a few weeks ago, I would have said that's a playoff team, no doubt. Now, with their remaining schedule money, yeah, yeah, they're, they're probably a four loss team oh, they're not losing. 

10:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Have you seen the schedule? They're not losing four. What are the four losses? What are you talking about? Oh, we're in alabama and somebody else. You, oh, kentucky, maybe at home they're not losing four games. They, they're nine and three. Probably. I will say one thing that you said that was yeah, yeah, yeah, give me the four losses. 

10:51 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So they have one, they got Bama, they got at Georgia. 

10:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And they can be Bama Vanderbilt. 

11:03
Very well done. Touche, that was was classic, that's classic. And ish folks, uh funny. Uh, I nico's probably going through some struggles. Uh, he's not, you know, living up to maybe as much hype that there was around him. I think you mentioned hypo ucf. That's always been my concern. That wasn't that great. He inherited that unbeaten scott frost team and it got worse every year. That really bothered me. Uh, as far as, like backing nash tennessee as a national title, they just he didn't have that killer instinct at ucf, so their team to watch. I did bet them. This week, though I think they're they're gonna kill florida. So, uh, that's a night game. I I think that you against me on that one. 

11:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, no, I don't have any. 

11:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Wow, that's coming down. Yeah, I can tell you that'll be best bet material. If it 13 and a half, maybe, if we're looking for best bets on Friday and if it's 14, I'm telling you that's going to be Tennessee, I'll own that one. I I know florida got a big win, but I think just ucf stinks. So, uh, I'm trying to think of other things. Uh, that happen, uh, and I mean let's talk, let's talk. 

12:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
missouri, yeah, being exposed as uh, I mean just, and I'll take that on the chin there, I know we didn't, thankfully didn't give it out, because I said three, or only I got some three on Saturday, fading the old steam move, and who? 

12:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
took that one At one point in the game. 

12:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean, and I don't want to like, early in the game there was a few critical calls against Missouri that I think really hampered them. But if you lose that game by seven or 10, you can kind of go down that road. You get smoked by 30. It can't be like, well, the officials cost us that. I mean, yeah, maybe they cost us seven or 10 points, but their defense was just. That's the best I've ever seen Connor Weedman look in his entire career. I don't know, I mean they did. 

13:01 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was looking to. I joined you when he got announced in. I played a little Missouri plus three. Yeah, I wasn't buying him. I haven't seen one, not against a decent team. He's beat up against the nobodies, but maybe Missouri's a nobody. 

13:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Brady Cook, oh boy, I mean he was awful in that game. They schemed a bunch of stuff open. I mean Weese and Burden, and he just missed multiple shot plays, yeah. And their defense, just no resistance. I mean Texas A&M looked like they could do whatever they wanted offensively. So yeah that. 

13:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
By an A&M long-term. Have you seen the schedule? It'll probably be favored in every game until the Longhorn game. 

13:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I tell you what I, I I'm gonna need to see it more, but I'm gonna need to see more wigman consistency, because that guy has not been the guy I've seen for since he's been on campus. But I mean, if he's gonna play like that, then then they are real deal yeah, I agree. 

14:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, and elko is legit boy. If he gets into like 10 wins in year one, then then the 76 million buyout was worth it to get. Uh oh oh, jimbo out of there. Uh, you know I'd be remiss not bringing up this game. Uh, how's uh your? I know what happened to your alex orgy heisman ticket. Did you in the second quarter? Where did you bet Jack Tuttle to win the Heisman? How's that going? 

14:26 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I did in the summer. I actually did and it's going. It had a flicker of hope just for a fleeting second when we took the lead. He had that touchdown pass. I mean, listen, jake, jake, you're going to be scrolling a long way to find Jack Tuttle. 

14:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know, this is only an hour-long show. 

14:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Your finger might fall off before you get to him in there, but listen, he looked finally like a guy and I could talk. 

14:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Well, he actually is 35. 

14:59 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Well, I'm going to tell you, folks, that's not a best bet. I need to add two more zeros. Yeah, he actually looked like a guy. Yeah, what's the max weight? If we want to donate to FanDuel, we could do that. 

15:11
But looked like a guy that should be playing quarterback at the college level and you saw the difference between him and Orgy and Davis Warren, actually looking like a functional player, but he hasn't played. I mean, he was hurt for the spring, hurt for most of fall. And then Michigan doesn't have a guy. Any receiver can get open. They still got problems on the offensive line. Yeah, you were the right side of it there. And Washington, even if, you know, once they got the kicker to actually make a few, washington was the right side in that game. If Tuttle and this is just kind of Michigan season if he said, yeah, he didn't, yeah, yeah, when I, I didn't, I didn't know that the Delta between him and Orgy and Warren was about 10 points, and that's not to say Jack Tuttle's great. So it's a detriment to the program that they didn't have a better option in place than Jack Tuttle on year seven after multiple injuries, because, yeah, the guy, yeah, and that was the right, I did bet Michigan when he came in. 

16:15 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I bet Michigan when he came in. 

16:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And he I mean you saw it within two plays that like, oh, this guy, just the way he looked like going over or gee, it's like always like what's happening. He looks like a guy who has no idea what's going on. 

16:29 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So yeah, when are you at, though? On the season though, have you seen his schedule? Well, there I mean. At Illinois and at Indiana Are not Not Ws, automated Ws. I mean, you're right, you not W's, automatic W's. 

16:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean you're right, you might be a six and six type year. 

16:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, that's rough, that's. I didn't tell you what like all Americans, a defensive tackle. How many years are you going to have that? 

16:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Then you're not for next year, so they're going to have to really got to get rid of wink. 

16:59 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You have to, you have to he's going to have to make three, four assistant coaching changes. 

17:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yep, and they're going to have to really call. 

17:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
And Portnoy is going to have to step up and buy you a quarterback. 

17:08 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, joke, like they're going to have to really buy Even for him not to go six and six or worse next year. Like you look at next year's roster, you're going to have to spend a lot of money to get new guys in. So he inherited a tough hand and but he did they should have helped him out more. 

17:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They did, yeah, they did. Yeah, you're right, I blame the michigan administration. I do, too, all the way back to you know, thinking about firing hardball in 2020. Karma, uh, just not on their side right now. Uh, the wolverines, I I feel, yeah, I mean, I'm three decades of it as an ordained fan. Uh, let's one more thing before we get to the chat. Obviously, it starts the show. Are you guys? Questions, comments, rumors flying? We didn't have a show on saturday. Uh, it worked to our benefit. We had our best saturday ever, but uh you and I were pretty tough. 

17:57
we questioned it because it was a late break. I didn't know the announcement until the show was going on that we weren't going to have a Saturday show. And then no show on Saturday, no show today. Rumors are swirling. What's the deal with Phillips? Because Twitter and you've got to believe everything you read on Twitter I do yeah, twitter was saying that we were incredibly tough on him, giving him a hard time on Friday. But what's going on with old Phillips? He's not here. 

18:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean, listen, it's because this is a different. This is what happens when you have a multi, a continental, I don't know how to say it, but when you have, this is an American show with American talent, that will you know. Whatever it takes, we'll do whatever it takes North of the border. Oh, it's Saturday. I need to go. You know Jacob's at a beer festival, zach's prancing around with his family, you know somewhere, and Pazola's out golfing. That's the difference, folks. 

18:55
That's why, the GDP in America is, you know, only 300 X of whatever Canada is producing anymore, because people here will do what it takes, Obviously not you know for our friends up north. 

19:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I mean people ask me why'd you leave at halftime in the UNLV game? Because I got to wake up before in the morning. Last I checked Saturday morning Saturday's a work day. You got to work. You know it was one of the best games of the year. I had to leave. Got to get to sleep, Got to wake up. I don't know. Will Zach be back on Friday? The Zach attack. 

19:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know. 

19:24 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Who knows? Heaven only knows at this point. So we'll see. Keep the rumors flying, though, because a lot of it might end up being true. So, all right, that's enough of us. That's 20 minutes of us rambling. What was you know? A great Saturday, to say the least. Let's get to it. D Lee lee, 23, who's been with us. He's just a new member, but definitely not first time. Long time he's been with us since the start. D lee found georgia 5-1 sec and 6-1 title thoughts. Also, I love hawaii 21 and a half. Awful spot for boise with unlv on deck. Mainstream media non-stop praise uh, I don't disagree with any of that, do you? 

20:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
uh, I like the georg Georgia play, probably the most man I got. 

20:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Hawaii. I can't lay three touchdowns on the islands with that defensive. 

20:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you. But I will say, on the Georgia point, I think you're getting a team that was not healthy earlier in the season, that had some young guys playing, that's kind of a great, has a great coaching staff, a good team to peak later in the season. Uh, and, if you can get them and we talked about it all year, as you know a buy low, a five to one, six to one on teams that are losing, I, I like what you did there. Um, I like them next week yeah, yep, I agree. 

20:46
So I I think it's a great buy time for georgia. On those kind of pre, I'm not as I'm probably not as interested in as I think I think you almost get a little bit. I like the national title a little bit better than the. Uh, yeah, the sec just already got an fdc loss. 

21:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They could look. The only reason I haven't bet it yet is because I feel like they could lose another game. 

21:07
I mean yeah, it's an unbelievably tough schedule and I still wouldn't feel that bad about them, to be honest with you. Uh, lose like a coin flip on the road against old miss or texas. So what something? You know bad happens, turnovers or something. So that's why I haven't jumped in yet, but I think those are really strong bets. I have bet hawaii this week just to let you know, so we'll see where that line uh goes. Uh, hawaii boise throughout the week. I might own that one as the best bet, but I I do like hawaii quite a bit. 

21:31
John hudson one and a half. What in the heck happened at ecu this past weekend? Yeah, I mean nine and a half point favorite. That one gets overlooked because of everything else that happened at the top of college football. But nine and a half point fair lose by 31. Yeah, uh boy, it's not looking good. That's one to potentially watch because the coach could get fired and there could be give up and wave the white flag. I, that was as bad as it gets for anybody. Uh, this whole season we failed to cover by 40 points. 

22:00
I don't know, I've had ecu over the total, so that was a disaster result. 

22:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I will say charlotte is a completely different team and biff pogey you know what. 

22:10
God damn it uh I thought he was fired a week ago I know, but I'm sorry rice and uh ecu max brown is legitimately like 10 points better than the other two guys that they had playing in there and if we, if I, would have had more certainty because they were, it was like, yeah, he might play, he limited availability, he comes. He was fine. Absolutely. They scammed that uh injury status all week. Um, he is a significant and charlotte to me is a uh, just a significantly better team with him, like he is a functional. I mean this is like tuttle versus orgy and Warren, where it's like Charlotte with Max Brown is like a legitimate, like a FBS quarterback. The other two guys have no business playing in game. 

22:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So we're at Navy next week. That'll be interesting. They got to buy it this week, so be interesting to see if we get a juicy number there. I didn't see it from Max Brown. I watched the opener against James Madison like literally play for play. I was like I thought that was so-so, but I hear he's better than Chexler, ivy and whatever else they had there. Burt Brownies great weekend. Fellas. Yep was. Hopefully we can continue that. Three, four more, just two or three more of those this year would be great. Where are we at with zona? Byu yikes. Uh yeah, zona was not good, although I mean good for you. Uh, you know they just they moved the football. They settled for field goals, like six of them. Uh, missed one. I I'm out byu's off a buy, where I mean I market says byu's a play. Here I'm. I can't get my power rating that high though. 

23:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, and the chat is not Max Brown Purdy. The guy that they played in there over the other two was the upgrade for Charlotte, oh okay, thank you, whatever quarterback. 

23:56
I know the Max Brown status out there. They played around with it all week. But listen, he was, I'll give it to him a lot better week. Um, but let's, he was, I'll give it to him a lot better. On arizona, I mean, listen, I, I this number, I I don't have a ton of faith in byu lane laying a number. I know the number's kind of gone out, um, but they've just been and that was part of the reason last week uh, thinking it'd be a high variance game versus Texas tech. I think this would be another one that uh kind of chalks up in that variance range. Um, but if it keeps, I might, I might be actually looking to be back on the play on here. Uh, we'll see in how far this number gets out. 

24:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, a little. Another ticker too. I'm on arizona. Uh, john hudson rice this is the weekend, I don't know and uh, I think utsa took a little bit of money today I don't, I don't know if I'm I actually uh no played a little. 

25:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You, yeah, they definitely took my yeah, they didn't know, because I it's out of six at some spots yeah, some played some utsa uh at a previous price. And this is for mr. This is from the guy who's been, you know, champion in the right. I was like how, how can this only be so that? But this will be the week I'm sure they went out right now that, I'm sure of it. 

25:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm sure of it, because, yes, yeah, because I, I did bet utsa as well. Uh, charles, before we pumped the show for having a near perfect week, global superstar zach phillips, was he unable to do the show saturday and autograph signing after being featured in the new nhl amazon doc? Is that true? Or is he just? I have no idea, with anything that goes on with the nhl, he was in, he was, he was in that show. Do you know this? 

25:45 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I have absolutely no idea what Chuck is talking about. 

25:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He might be pulling our chain. Yeah, I have no idea on that. Shame on me. Obviously I didn't get to the ECU-Charlotte game that I heard. I should have known that. I didn't watch that game. I'll have to look at that one. I'm glad it is Purdy and not Max Brown because I would have worried about my eyesight because, again, I didn't see it from Brown in that opener. I'm like oof, I can't believe he came on and played that. Well, so I'm at least happy with that Chat. Let us know, on the NHL thing, it's called Face Off. Zach's on this show called Face Off. Is that why? Need powers to release power? Oh yeah, Is that why? 

26:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It was on like a book tour. Interesting Show tour. 

26:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Oh, wow, interesting. We'll have to look at that, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you wouldn't like my power ratings in the NHL. I barely know what icing is I am, so I I have no idea. Uh, jacob honestly has no idea on this. Uh, wow, maybe that's why he's left. He's big time on us. Yeah, whatever guy asked, utah shot up to six and a half, still good. Uh, I think it's a good spot. You would think I'm just letting you know I don't have any inside info, it's a good thing if cam rising is gonna play, he's gotta play this week, right, or it's over. 

27:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean I don't know if I listen the the market says he's playing. The market's been wrong about him playing, uh, many times in his career. Um, agreed, good spot and all that I. I can't really get to where the number's at now, though. Um, we laying five and a half. 

27:34 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It's six and a half everywhere, isn't it? 

27:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
yeah, it's mostly uh six and a half um you want to lay it or no, it's up to you. I'll leave it to you I gotta tell you I'm, I'm you. You would have had me at, you know, three, three and a half four um past that I'm not all right I like utah. 

27:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Somebody wants to bet it. That's a decent bet. You still like it even at this number yeah yeah well yeah, the market, it's not a extremely liquid market. But yeah, why not get a point? Six is not critical key, but it's, you know, on a total of 45 and a half. You're gonna give me a point. 

28:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean if, if rising doesn't play, this is going back down a few. 

28:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, that's true all right, we'll revisit this one on friday. Oh well, never mind, there you go. Look at that. Well, somebody's listening, somebody's watching us out there. I gave out Utah this morning on another show. I bet Utah Boom, like Utah Charles saw in the chat. I know old BPB probably likes them without him, but 23 is too many for Stanford. If Daniels is a go, any idea what is up, you're not going to believe this. But I bet Notre Dame on Sunday. No, not at 23,. But they're not the team I want to lay points with, but I think it's horrific for Stanford. This is their third cross-country trip in four weeks. If Daniels can't play, I mean I don't know. I mean they're very one-dimensional. Notre Dame's off a bye. They should be. It should be theoretically locked in because they ever beat him at home the last time they played him at home. So I did. It was one of the rare times I I wouldn't lay 23, but I did lay a lower number. I'll put it that way. Where you at on Notre Dame. 

29:20
I know you're going to say you can't lay points with them I know I'm I. 

29:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I think it's totally on what happens with stanford's quarterback situation, which I'm just not clear of at this point in the week. Um, if it's not daniels, I think I would still lay 23. Like that stanford can't do anything on off, like you're basically running a one-dimensional up which notre dame's best feature, the, the run defense. So it's number dependent. If Daniels doesn't play, I'd still lay the 23. If he's back, I'd honestly think about Stanford. I think he's probably a touchdown difference to the guy that they're running out there now. 

30:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Rw fans at Stanford outright. 

30:04 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Not if he's not playing because I don't think the wildcat works anymore. Signed, uh, michigan football the first, uh, you know a few weeks there. So yeah, that's we'll. Maybe we'll revisit on friday if we get some more clarity on qb jet. 

30:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, charles, how can the hammer not know anything about phillips being the doc? I don't, I don't like. I am so locked in on college football and the nfl. I could care less anything and what else is happening. I I, you know honestly, about Phillips being the doc. I don't, I don't like. I am so locked in on college football and the NFL I could care less anything and what else is happening. I I, you know honestly, this will get. Get me brownie points. I don't even care what's going to happen in a month in this country, I just want to win. I want to win. That's all I care about right now. Uh, so, yeah, I, if he's in it in it, good for him. I'll have to see clips of this. I'm anxious. Maybe this is one of the reasons why he left us, I, and maybe yeah, he's a, you know, a tv star now yeah, all right, that's fine, just say, when the chips are down, when he comes back, you know, ask him for help. 

31:03
I mean I, I don't, you know, once you leave this, it's over with me. I mean you're dead to me in our, uh, in our telegram chat there's a clip. Okay, I'll have to look at this. Okay, it shows you how much we look at our telegram chat. I mean, you guys, I would all right, fair enough, uh, cotter, in the chat, penn state, good, this, uh, good under six. This is a very good uh bet by you. You asked me if I wanted Penn State last week. You'll have to tell the number you got. But I said, nah, here you go, you got CLV. 

31:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Great bet by you. I thought you know what it was like one and a half. There was a money line that gave us two and a half for a while when we talked about it on the show. I'm a little surprised it's gotten out as far as I would not play penn state any. I wouldn't either. Yeah, it's just there. I talked with 10 about this. The offense just looks kind of clunky. Um, yes, it does. It just does you know, and it's not a I I? I don't think that maybe isn't as much of a concern this week, which I think they can kind of overwhelm USC, especially in the midst of what the U S he you know the physical schedule they're in part of against Ohio state though, where I thought they were pretty live in that game for the majority of this year. I don't know if I'm feeling that way anymore. Yeah, I agree. 

32:20 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Singleton coming back. He missed last week. 

32:27 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Franklin is a clay, you know he's such a he's. He's like kyle whittingham, like he just lies, but like face. The like would lie to his mother about letting injury status to his face. No, he's fine, he's playing. He's warming up with the ones he doesn't play jamil's asking is usc a dead over team? 

32:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I I bet the under in the game. They really. 

32:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I mean they weren't having that, yeah, like the michigan game was pretty much it went. 

32:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
What went over half of you know went over because the you know 30 seconds left touchdown. Lsu game went under last week one under. I mean, this is the. This is what they're living in now. I am really the tweet that I. I sent out a ton of tweets on saturday, but the one that got the most play was my lincoln riley tweet. He did not sign up this. They are not ready for the big 10. They're just not. Yeah, they're. They're taking body blows every week. They even took them against Wisconsin. 

33:16
Uh, I don't like I can't get to this number on Penn state, but I don't want to see right now. Yeah, and I think they still got. I mean, look at their, they still got. Nebraska, washington, rutgers is physical Notre Dame, I mean they're staring you talk about Michigan staring at six and six, seven and five. 

33:35 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
SC any different? No, I was higher probably on that, but in the midst of what they're in seeing how this is happening now also their offensive line is a problem like they got crushed first michigan, they they minnesota got them yep, and now you're going up against a team that has just as good a front as as maybe not the, the star power, uh of a michigan front, but of just as good as a front seven on defense. 

34:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That's going to be a problem yeah, I bet the under in the game. Let's keep it rolling. Uh, connor. Thoughts on the jmu coastal over at 61 and a half you don't want to know the, I will say the. 

34:16 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Look ahead. They posted on this game last week. Uh was a ridiculous. The total was, um, I will say at this point, 49 and a half yeah, yeah, holy I gotta look at these if they're gonna post them so quickly. 

34:32 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I thought I got a good number. I bet it. I didn't get 49 and a half. I got 55 on sunday morning at like three in the morning. I I just think you got 49. 

34:42 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
You're the one to get 49 and a half yep, but um, thank you, thank you, I can't get there now, though no no, no, to be honest with you, I'd almost be leaning a bit the other way now, yeah yeah, and 61 and a half. 

34:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm leaning towards JMU. Short week often upset. I lay the nine and a half. I think it should be 10. Yeah, simple as that, when I make a bet a lot of times. Just that I think it should be 10. Let's lay nine and a half, boom. Yeah, yeah, no. 

35:10 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I would say I don't know if it's best bad material. 

35:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
But man, that's one that I regret. Uh, ulm did not sit for a 16 point. Underdog talked about it on friday. We need 17, we need 17. Yeah, just taking it damn yep, because the temple, ulm is playing the slowest temple in the country. You can't get, when you can, limited possessions. You can't lay three possessions on this ulm team. Now this week ulm is laying points. I'm not sure I want to lay points with ulm because they play so slow. Yeah, more on that on friday. Guy asks oregon state minus four against nevada. It seems pretty cheap right now. I did bet nevada yesterday, though uh, the market hates. Uh, oregon state just hates them more than I do they got. 

36:01 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They're very fortunate to win that game versus colorado, so they got steamed way. I mean, that was probably the biggest steamer of the week Three and a half. 

36:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
How low does this go? I'm telling you, I'm going to probably end up betting Oregon State. They just hate Oregon State so much that I I mean that's pretty low. 

36:19 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, let's give it. Let's see if at three I'd be in. 

36:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, let's wait until Friday. But that one was much higher, let's just say yesterday much, much higher. So I I, if you're looking to bet nevada now, I don't know onion man thoughts on clemson minus 20. I know they covered, but only 22 red zone success rate. Uh, plus wake off an upset win. I bet the over in the game. I didn't touch the side. Did you do anything with Clemson? 

36:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I haven't yet. I gotta be honest with you. I, I, I would be on the Clemson side of things. Um, awake, what do you think on 19 and a half? Where are you? Where do you make it? 

36:58 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know if I'm. If you want to best bet it, go ahead. I uh right, I'm not there. Yeah, I'm not there. Yeah, we'll pass. 

37:09 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm not there on either. 

37:10 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm just saying Do you? Like it. Do you like it enough? 

37:15 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
to lay it. I mean it's more, it's kind of what you said. I lean that way under 20. It's nothing that I'd make. I don't know if it'd be best bet material. 

37:23 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We'll come back to it, maybe later, not Friday, maybe later in the show if we don't have enough best bets. So look at us trying to protect our all great record after an eight one week. Nah, we'll just. You know, we've always said this, this is just a, a moment in time, a picture, but either the lines are there or they're not. It's just uh, we can't, we're not going to change the show schedule, just, let's just go live. I like three bets this week. Let's just go live. I know people would like that. That's not how the schedule works, especially with Phillips Now all of a sudden MIA. 

37:54
I don't know what the future holds. Seriously Unbelievable, sad. Just when, just when we get hot, he bails a trip. I can't be the only better. I got smoked taking Bama, moneyline Live. I'm sure a lot of people were, I didn't. I took the tie minus 125, moneyline and FanDuel and they're down 23-7. Wow, biggest live. Yeah, I mean again, I think you said it best. The amazing thing to me was yeah, there was some fluky stuff. There has to be fluky stuff. It's Vanderbilt against Alabama for them to win, but for them to get them a couple first downs at the end. I mean, how many times have you seen how they can't get the first down? They punt it right back. Long pass to Ryan Williams. Boom bang, alabama wins. I just Wow, that was stunning. I was waiting for Alabama. I honestly. 

38:52 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm glad I didn't look at, I wasn't even thinking about it. Uh, did you make any in-game live bet on that one? No, actually I didn't. 

38:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I honestly I didn't pick that one up until like late. 

38:56 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Like the one that actually was like gonna like, oh my god, they might lose. I wasn't really paying. I was like, oh, they got down a few scores early, um, so I yeah, I didn't, uh, didn't get involved until it was like, oh my God, this is actually happening late. 

39:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was just done at Vanderbilt, was able to get them a couple of first downs when they needed it. Well, they, they scheme things up. I love we this is a Diego Pavia show. We love Jerry. Kill Tim back, not the other. Tim back is their OC. Uh, they're really good scheme they had. I mean they had some stuff and kudos for them. They went the fourth and one touchdown pass in one of the plays of the year in college football so far To have the guts on the fourth and a foot to throw a long touchdown pass and to catch in and throw Unbelievable Buffalo Moneyline this week. Fade the Candle. Rwfan23, who also mentioned we need likes. If you're watching the show live and you're wondering about Phillips, make sure you're hitting the like button and we'll get more answers here. What do you think? Buffalo Toledo have you bet it? This would be a typical candle losing outright. 

39:54 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
This would be a candle game. I haven't bet it, though. I've watched a lot of Mac and you know. You know I've been down on Toledo. I just this isn't the game that I really want to bat Again in the Northern Illinois game, where it's going to be more of a slog fest. I like that spot a lot better. For Buffalo. I have concerns about what they can really keep up with Toledo. Buffalo's offense is extremely underwhelming. So no, I'm not there on that one. Where are you? 

40:30 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Toledo's better than I anticipated, me too. Yeah, I was going to. Yeah, they probably should have beaten Western Kentucky too, to be honest with you. They kind of blew that game. They're just a lot better than I anticipated. I thought they could lose last week and they were in control on that one. Yes, same thing, Wow, I last week and they were in control on that one, yes, same thing. 

40:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Wow, I got a win. Total bet under on Toledo. It's gonna be a loser and I we know as a BG podcast here. 

40:54 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, I mean oh my God, is that big game this week. Bg Northern Illinois, you want it what do you? 

41:02 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
where are you at? 

41:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
on that one uh, I'm more on the Northern Illinois side. You want to go head-to-head? Yeah, let's go head-to-head. What number, though? 

41:13 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Two and a half. No, I'm not going at two and a half, no way. No, you want to do it at three. 

41:22 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I mean I'm not going to give you a half point because that means I'm going to have to owe you something later. I'm rooting for BG. I mean I would not, just because I'm alma mater, but I got multiple win total bets on them. 

41:33 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I laid to. I like it under. Like two and a half. 

41:37 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Best bet. I think the number should be, you know. 

41:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't know what. Do you think the number should be Two? I mean it's the only. I mean it's mine, it's a little juicy, but it's the only two and a half on the board. It's up to you, we're. I mean we're, so let's start. Look, I thought the Akron game bit of a letdown. 

42:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I don't like what I see in the last couple weeks. Okay, that's all. I don't know if they're a little banged up from playing Penn State and A&M, I mean we'll see Northern Illinois. Let's just revisit it on Friday. There's too much. I know we're on a key. Oh, we should have had the two and a half. It's the right side. It's the right side. Some wise man once said yeah, you bet teams, not numbers. 

42:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
So we'll see I don't like Northern Illinois. Is that a Northern Illinois box score versus UMass? 

42:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, you want it. I mean I'll be rooting for you. I All right, you want it, I mean I'll be rooting for you. I'm not like. I definitely don't like Northern Illinois at two and a half. 

42:48 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I just don't. Here's the thing I agree with you. There are some concerns in terms of, like, the way Bowling Green's been playing last year. I don't think the Notre Dame game that they're riding off of is like it's something that they're going to ride. I don't think they're any good Like I don't think they're any good Like literally like I don't think this Northern Illinois. They haven't played NC State though. 

43:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
They limited NC State. I know NC State sucks, but still NC State didn't even have 200 yards in that game. Yeah, I mean what you laying it. I mean I'll root for you. I mean I want BG to kill them. 

43:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
What were the I mean total yards versus UMass were pretty much even. They had 35 passing yards versus UMass. 

43:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right, 35. Browns banged up at running back. All right, let me look. Let me get a quick look at the market. Yeah, let's do it. Lay two and a half. Is it in there, jacob? Hopefully we got to get it, because this show reacts quickly. Did we get it Minus? 

43:46 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
two and a half minus 120?. 

43:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, it's still there. Okay, it's still there. All right, we're counting BG. Ziggy Ziggy, zumba, zumba, zumba, Ziggy, ziggy, zumba, zumba. That's there, roll on, that's our little chat. 

44:04
Okay, I did. I'll be. Y'all have to freshen up on that because I'll be chatting Well when you go there. And keep in mind when I was there it was an interesting time period because we had Dan Dockich and Urban Meyer coaching the football and basketball teams. It was a great time to be in BG. I can tell you that. 

44:20
Holt, any updated Heisman thoughts? That's a good question. Good question. I mean shocker. We got a group of five running back leading the way. Yeah, a guy that plays two ways. Why do you see her in defensive back or the top two favorites? I think you got a better quarterback. So at this point, right, I'm not a big Cam Ward guy, they're two plays away from. Again, people want to kill everybody there down there. You got somebody else. Want to kill everybody there down there. You got somebody else. In my I I said this thoughts I don't like, necessarily like oregon against ohio state this week, but if you do, if you're watching, and you do like oregon to beat ohio state, I think you diversify your portfolio. And if you haven't already bet dylan gabriel to win the heisman, I mean if they beat, ohio city has a big game. He might be the favorite by next monday. Do you agree with that or no? 

45:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Um, man, he's been so pedestrian this year, Um, but I agree, if they beat Ohio state, uh, then not that I'm loving how that looking. I will say this is the first time this week where and I know he's the Heisman favorite now, but I don't it's not just the numbers, it's like the the whole national media has picked up on the genti thing where usually that's not for me yeah, like we're. 

45:26
Usually don't see a g5 player getting this kind of, but it's all over the place, um, and who's slowing him down in the in the mountain west? He might put just be one of those like stats. He's back. I wouldn't do, I got, I'll give you yeah, I don't mind. 

45:41 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Back I saw as high as 25 to 1. 

45:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
He's got three big games yeah and I if I had to bet, like we talked about this on the show a few weeks ago. What about our boy club nick? I don't know if they're gonna like I don't know I'm honestly. 

46:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't even have a heisman ticket on him. I lose a lot of money but I'm kind of rooting for genti to win it, even though I'd lose a ton of money. I just I'm kind of rude for him. Obviously I don't want travis hunter because of other people. 

46:12 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I just never hear the end of it, uh oh boy, yeah, I'd actually win money on that, but I don't. I'm rooting against it because I never hear the end of it. 

46:19 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, yeah, but club nick ewers back, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see any of them, yeah we're not done with movement. I can tell you that for sure for sure. 

46:30
I still, I think, whoever you like out of that bunch, I think, if you don't already have those guys in your portfolio, diversify it. Take some quarterback yeah, it's going to be in the mix. And then, I agree, I think, colorado. I mean, we'll see colorado, they could lose this week. Obviously they're an under. We'll see Colorado they could lose this week. Obviously they're an underdog. We'll see what happens in that one. I think Boise will have enough. They still got Oregon State UNLV. They'll still have enough games where, especially if he's piling up Everybody knows if he's piling up 200-plus yards every game people are going to be on to that to be on to that, especially if he breaks barry sanders like unbreakable record. 

47:07
Yeah, yeah, then he's he's, he wins if he does that. Yeah, I agree, charles, in the chat. What do you think is the most underrated team? Not yukon, sadly. Maybe temple, an overrated team in the market currently? Oh wow, good question. Well, it was connecticut prior to that temple game. 

47:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh yeah, well, at least at least they didn't lose because for one minute there like I thought they're gonna lose me too I was like that had been a disaster on so many fronts that our temple win total would have. Uh uh boy, would have been real trouble there at that point, that is a good question. 

47:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Who would be worse than uh trying to think I don't know air force maybe? I mean, I don't think the market can catch up how bad they are. We saw new mexico money today. 

47:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I agree, okay, let's, yeah, let's. But speaking of a recent air force opponent, oh where you at on uh wyoming san diego state uh, oh wow, what's the weather gonna be like? 

48:12 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
we're finally getting a front through here where it's gonna be cold. Uh, eileen, I guess eileen, san diego, state me too did you bet? It, though I haven't bet it yet, which says says a lot. I'm rooting for san ian state. You and I have a season win total that, if they win this game, we're back in business. Uh, as far as winning that bet, which I thought we were dead just two weeks ago, I lean san diego state. 

48:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I haven't bet it though okay, I like, I like, I did bad. 

48:43 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I'm sorry, I'm like lean crazy here, I won't get to. I'll look down my chart and see if there's some games here I look at minus one 15 money line. 

48:52
All right, best bet at San Diego state I'm already rooting for it. San Diego state, money line one 15. Best bet Boom, I'll root for it. Back to this question. I mean overrated. I think air force is really bad. Market can't catch up with the nc state's bad, north carolina's bad. Oh I, I don't know if you can even do a power rating on this team right now. Uab I just said it's over. 

49:18
Purdue we mentioned is terrible. The good teams why I'm tough? Uab is playing one of those teams this week. That's why that number is getting crazy. On army, oh, got a super chat. Uh, little jeff sony bounce back spot for maryland. Friday night maryland message reporting. Locksleeve might take over the play calling from josh gaddis. That would be a positive that would be a positive from a former gaddis experiencer uh, I like the over, then if that's the case, I don't want to lay doubles. 

49:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oh, what's that at currently 44. Yeah, that was one of our friend Franchise's favorite overs. Yeah, I bet it. 

49:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Let's go over 44 and a half. 

49:57 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, because that's one of the only ones, because it's painted 45 everywhere. 

50:00 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, let's go, because I did bet that on open. I thought it was a sneaky over bet. Yeah, yeah, oh, let's go, because I I did bet that on open. I thought it was a sneaky over bet. Yeah, man, fran, that's who I'm competing against. I wonder when some of these totals move. And then I check out his blog and I'm like god dang it. It was him that beat me to these numbers, these he's good on he's. He's great on a lot of things. He's really he's good on totals I like I don't get a total, it's always him. 

50:20
He got it before I like that. 

50:22 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, I do think that's a sneaky. Northwestern had a really good effort over the weekend versus iu, like really and uh, and I'd agree maryland, I think both teams gonna go a little bit. Um, I like that over uh quite a bit. I think that's the side there yeah, best bet over there's. 

50:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You see now, boom bang, zero three. Looks like I got in a heartbeat. Uh, david, uh, deal in the chat. Do you think washington closed higher, lower than three? Gonna bet it regardless, but wanted thoughts. Uh, the doctor came in on washington plus three. Actually, in the other way, I, I would, I, I bet iowa minus two and a half. I don't like iowa, I just. I think it's a letdown spot. 

50:58 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'm just that's the 1998 handicapping, just a spot, says iowa yeah, and I'm gonna give you a 1998 take At under three. I like Watt. At over three I'd take Watt. You know what I'm saying. 

51:08 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I hear you it should be three. I think it should be three. 

51:11
Yeah, I agree, it's like a classic should be three NFL type of thing and Washington, as dominant as they are statistically, they don't do little things, man, they just they. They don't. Even in the michigan game they could have had that one like open shut case, like no doubt, uh, if they do little things like kick a field goal yeah, I couldn't believe he kicked that field, I could not believe they lined up and kicked that field goal. Go for an end of game. I I gotta give uh pj fleck credit for going for you. You right, you were going there right. 

51:44
Yeah, I couldn't believe he did that. I thought I'll kick a field goal like an idiot and you know USC, at least force overtime, if not win the game. All right, so I'm glad he went for it there. You think that was a touchdown? Did you see that replay? It was tough, I don't know. We didn't have a clear look, but like half his body was in the end zone, you have to assume. Yeah, I could believe it wasn't called a touchdown on the field as on the mic. Right, right, right, right, right. Uh, yeah, that was interesting. Uh, eat that. Uh, okay, the big game of the week, we're finally getting to it. Oregon, ohio state. Early thoughts on it. 

52:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Oregon, yeah, I'm not there though I then and I and I was said we were texting about it last week. I was like, yeah, should we get some three? You know, early in this I gotta tell you ohio state finally, like that performance was like this is the best team in the country, like that they're number one in my power ratings right now. 

52:46
I hate to say that, but they are, and it really just like they've got it rolling. Now the offensive line seems to have worked out the king and, coupled with the fact that Oregon kind of is underwhelming every single week, the offense is not what I thought it would be turnovers. They had turnovers in the red zone last week against michigan state yeah, I mean, I I hate to admit it, but uh, yeah, I just no, no granted with. 

53:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
That said, I'm not laying over three in this game, like I'm not yeah yeah, I agree, I agree so all right, we'll see when the market is on. That's gonna be interesting to see what battle. Again, my line says three. So I mean again the 1998 guys are going to take Oregon. I just watching the two teams play this year I'll just say this I'll be surprised if Oregon wins, like pretty surprised. I just don't see it. And Ohio State finally did show me something, although Iowa I mean it isn't great. I mean that's what sucks about teams you don't play anybody. I'm not sure. Yet here we are, you know, mid October. I think Ohio state's the best team but again they haven't played a top 20 team yet. So I don't know. I hate saying that Austin M, hawaii team total over 19.5. 

54:03 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I like that better than the side. 

54:06 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Where's that available right now? Holy cow, that's a great bet. I don't know if that's why, I don't even know if Jacob could bring that one up on screen, but if you have access to that, that would be a best bet, Because I do think it hasn't been a great Hawaii offense, but that just has that screams that they'll. They'll be able to score Like anybody can score on damn Boise right now. Zach, in the chat general rule in 2024, if it's a big 12 game, bet the dog 20 and a half. You want to do that. 

54:39 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah. 

54:40 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
All right. Best bet over 20 and a half. 

54:43 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, I liked. I liked that play better, like that was a great nice chat mention there. Um, yeah, I like that better than side, for sure all right, there we go. 

54:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
We came to some compromise. See, I like that uh, big 12 game, bet the dog. Yeah, I kind of that's going to be. It's going to be a sham to have the big 12 champ as a four seed when it's all said and done, and you could have a three loss team as the four seed. So I, I, who are you betting to win that conference? Who's the best team right now? Power rings, wise would say Iowa state and I'm. I think they could lose this week to West Virginia. 

55:17 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I, I agree and listen. I've got some Iowa state tickets, but we talked about it last week. It's like every week they're kind of like and then again I know they closed they were even early in that baylor game. I thought, yeah, I would say they closed it out strong, but man it's. It's not impressive. 

55:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
It could really be one of eight teams you know what I'm most confident in in the big 12? Oklahoma state sucks, yeah. Yeah, they might not have a winning record. I I you know what that box score is unbelievably dominant pull the clip. 

55:50 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Uh, you know, I'm gonna say I'm saying of the meat, saying that gun and just retime it, like with ai for this year, like it just inserted and pretend I said it, like you know, two months ago yeah, funny now we're right back to square one there. 

56:02 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Uh, charles saw, can we discuss Dilfer? Uh, don't let the cash cow leave, it's just everyone's out. I did bet army. I, my power rating can't even get close. It's probably my big, my biggest power ratings disparity is saying to bet UAB this week. I just can't get that high. But UAB is un a Dave Aranda, he's fired 25 and a half. That time is 14, last week probably right, seriously. 

56:31 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No seriously, though I know the quarterback's out. 

56:36 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I am not built that way. I just knew the Army money was coming, so I bet it. But I can't give out a best bet right now. 

56:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I'll regret it when it's 42, nothing at halftime. 

56:48 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
32 to 60 ulm is like that should have been, uh, that, that should have been the warning flight. But you know what confused me they. 

56:56
They were competing with arkansas, remember, like the next week or something, so that kind of like confused me, it looks great in that first half, yeah, and the Navy got after him and I just the light bulb didn't go off until I bet against him last week, but it wasn't like best bet material. And then, obviously, when, when you give up seven, he's done. I've heard some really disturbing things from him Lack of work, ethic, horrific person, like actual human being. 

57:28 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They said he's a horrific human being, so I took, I don't, I don't mind taking shots and I don't love hiring like I don't know, just guys that have I, I want the coach that's kind of come up through the ranks and had to, like you know, kind of earn it that way, instead of just hiring a name that's obviously already extremely wealthy, played in the league for a while. I just don't know if those guys right now in college football is the way, like you have to work such an insane like level of hours and detail right now in college football with all that stuff going on that it feels like I, I don't know like an ex NFL pro that has no experience, just just screams horrible hire. 

58:11 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Yeah, I think the bigger take is whoever was in that hiring process, they need to be fired. Yes, and keep in mind they got rid of the interim coach, Vincent, who is, you know, took over for Bill Clark. Bill Clark says hey, this is kind of my handpicked successor. He's the interim for one year. They don't have that great a year. Well, yeah, you lost your head coach in the summer, so they still want a bowl game. They decide to get rid of Vincent. You know where he's coaching at now. Head coach. You know he's the head coach of you. Who beat you? Maybe embarrassed him. You, L M. Who beat you? I'd be embarrassed. I'm ULM's win totals One and a half. They're already a four wins. They're favored this week. 

58:45
They're thinking bowl game it might've been the one bowl game in their history. So you hire the right coach, you win like that, you lose like that immediately. Rw fan 23 South Carolina wins this week is to bore on the hot seat. Well, yeah, I mean among rational or irrational Bama fan. Irrational Bama fan has him fired already. 

59:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
No, not, unless you bet. 

59:07 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did you do anything with that? 

59:07 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
game. I did not I bet the over. 

59:13 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I think Alabama's a dead nut over team. 

59:14 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, that's fair. But DeBoer no. Deboer would have 30 jobs tomorrow if you fight. Oh, I know that was a joke. No, I just don't think. You know, like, that's just kind of what the the new. This is what we talked about in the offseason. The new college football is you're probably gonna lose a couple games a year, no matter who you are. That's just it. Like you, just you're playing this. You know if you're in the sec, your schedule's insane every year you gotta feel real good. 

59:44 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
You might have saw the last 15-0 team ever. 

59:47 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
And you know what? I can go back and watch those YouTubes instead of watching Jack Tuttle lose to Illinois. There you go. 

59:55 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Fire up that 40-3 record, unbelievable. Them three Ohio State games, the win against Alabama, my goodness, what a time. Those days are gone now, because it's not looking good the next couple years unless something drastically changes. You need you need to be a fan of portnoy right now to get your core out seriously, uh, can you flip? Uh, has there been any uh rumblings about underwood? 

01:00:21 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
I don't, honestly, I don't know. I think the NIL was a big thing, but I think more so than that. I think he liked the L newsflash. I think he liked the LSU potential in the offense a lot better, like I did, as opposed to playing in for, you know, 1950s. 

01:00:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
He gets quarterbacked by, I guess, jaden Daniels. I can't use that anymore against Kelly. I know it hurts, damn. What do you think of that? One quickly this week? That's a big game. Not getting enough credit. Ole Miss-LSU is a huge game. 

01:00:53 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay, I'm on some Ole Miss under three. It's some two and a half, which I don't know if they're, it's mostly three. I got the franchise a little head-to-head because he's like oh, they haven't won in death valley since, you know, and I was like, where are you? I I know, I know the spot is terrible lsu by week old, miss, back-to-back roadies, all that. 

01:01:16 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I just think I bet the under okay people don't. 

01:01:19
Nobody wants to bet that, but I just. Old miss does not get enough credit for having a legit defense and their game. Go look at their results last, last year and this year. They're not a dead nut over team. They're not. They, in fact the unders come in way more than the over. I don't know lsu's defense a little bit better. Obviously their offense isn't as good under for me. So, other side, how you like tuna? How about three and a half? How about three and a half? You like three and a half? That's what I got on Ole Miss. 

01:01:49 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Okay. 

01:01:51 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
By three and a half, I mean with a plus sign, oh okay. So yeah, I don't think LSU's that good. So I'm not opposed to your thinking. I mean, if it wasn't for the spot old miss, my two and a half would be like best bet, because I think they're clearly the better team. I just I can't trust kiffin. Yet I'm rooting for him. You know that I'll be rooting for. I'll be rooting for kiffin on saturday. I'm rooting for you. You know I like franchise. I'll be rooting for you. Was that franchise or tailgate? 

01:02:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, that's franchise. Who was uh an analyst youth? 

01:02:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I was things all right, a couple more and then we'll recap it. Uh, hot coffee. How fraudulent is mizzou? Four touchdowns against humass level fraud. They could be really fraudulent. They could be very terrible I didn't bet it though. 

01:02:44 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
no, no, I mean neither yeah. 

01:02:46 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I, I don't want to bet it. It really depends if they, if they have any semblance of wanting to play. It's cheap, but I don't know, terrible and it's a. It's not even a, you know. Oh, they're playing at UMass. Well, they're playing a Patriot stadium. Well, they're playing a patriot stadium. So it makes sense, you know, at the patriots. No, they're playing at the the 15 000 seat dump, mcgurk and amherst. I can't believe they did that. Uh, you said wow, ty shiner, pitt versus cal. Bad spot for cal coming off the emotional loss of the canes. Lay with pit. I have laid it with pitt. I don't know if I'm running to lay three and a half four, but I, I do like pitt this well, yeah I mean there's been somebody I was gonna say it's most opinion. 

01:03:24 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, there's not three. 

01:03:27 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I would lay three. Where are you at? 

01:03:30 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
on that one. I can't believe. This is like, uh, the twilight zone now. Now I'm mr kale on the show. I don't know. I kind of like I've kind of been impressed with kale through a number of weeks. 

01:03:39 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Here I'm not and that was their every. You can't, well, you can't bet that one. So I mean, yeah, I would say I'd lay the three. We'll talk more about this one on friday. All right, yeah, they're impressed, but god gosh darn it, you gotta win that game, dude, you're gonna close that one out. 

01:03:56
You really do you, just you gotta win that game. I beat miami this year. They're like the most unlikable team right now for me. I, just I, I, I don't like them. Bennett thoughts on West Virginia, iowa state yeah, I think West Virginia is sharp side. Let's see what price we get on Friday. Uh, we're needing best bets. I, I wouldn't be opposed to West Virginia there. I think they won the game. Uh, peyton, new Mexico from four and a half to six and a half against Air Force thoughts Big dampier guy here, I'm a part of it. 

01:04:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
They're off a bye. 

01:04:31 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I don't know how Air Force keeps pace. Where are you at on this one, Dr Bob? Give it out. 

01:04:36 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
It's great man. I've seen in any years any Air Force team for the past I don't know 20 years, except for that one year. I would have been like, oh, air Force, they're just going to tear this defense up. This year's Air Force, I don't know. I mean they've done nothing to show it. And do you saw it? I mean the delta between them and Navy and Army, like Navy was hitting explosive pass plays against them, which opens up a ton of other stuff. Air Force can't do it. So, um yeah, no, I kind of, I kind of even would still lean new mexico at the current I would too. 

01:05:18 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Somebody beat me that opened like one and a half another book. 

01:05:20
I could not get it. I kept hitting press, press, review, review, review, whatever. I kept that I'd be so bad though it didn't matter. Move to point point half still bet it, still bet it. Uh, anything in the midweek games. So I'll bring this up. 

01:05:33
Uh, the tout service gave out memphis this morning. Now I get it, for a tailgate tent was up my ass. I mean that game ain't even getting played. I get it, but just for some stupid reason it does get played. Obviously south florida's practice disruptions because the oncoming hurricane. More importantly, I don't know if a south florida's quarterback's gonna play brown. Uh, I think people forget got hurt in the game they didn't play last week, but it's two weeks ago against tulane. He was in a walking boot. They haven't said so. Usually I take as nothing means something, because if he's healthy, you say he's healthy, somebody sees him on the practice field. If you've got everything shut down, I don't think that's good. So the tout service gave out Memphis. If the game gets rescheduled for like the next day, I'm going to bet Memphis. If obviously the game gets pushed to Memphis, you know, placed in another. You're playing in a different area. I'm a bet Memphis, so I'm betting Memphis. Memphis is the best bet for me this week. Do you oppose? 

01:06:29 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
it, it as you're saying. I like your analysis there. 

01:06:33 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Did it already get moved? Hold on what's that? Why is it six and a half? 

01:06:41 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Why would it be six and a half? That's the only, I thought, six and most of the sevens, uh, painted elsewhere but I'll own that six and a half best bet, put it in. 

01:06:49 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
Might as well put it in some of these books. Actions, action too. Might as well put the bet in now. I mean I, I got. I mean it's definitely action when I lose the bet, even though the other games, you know, played a half, I lost. Oh okay, you know timeline, you gotta play 60 minutes. No, you lost the bet. No, I mean no void. 

01:07:06 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, no, I mean, listen, I with your, I was, I was kind of. You know I was talking with some guys earlier about, like you know, south Florida. I liked it. But one person who I don't want to said South Florida is more beat up than they're letting on, which coincides with your analysis there that that brown might not be a go for this yeah, it's okay. 

01:07:28 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
So you heard the same whispers like that that, uh, I was just doing some uh, old-fashioned old school just reading this morning up before, can't sleep just reading. I'm like, huh, well, the hurricane like my number's not here, obviously, my, I could see why you're thinking just if everything's equal, south Florida got that down yeah. 

01:07:49
But then I started all the hurricane might disrupt things. So I'm like, ok, I might leave Memphis. I, you got to learn to read. An odd screen. I saw like some offshore faraway places at seven in the morning East Coast, I see them. You know a couple sharper books. We're trending towards seven. I'm like what's going on here? And then I started reading and they're just like, oh, I, I don't think brown plays this line's gonna go to. I go a lot higher. I'm just saying so, all right, we'll see if that game gets played. 

01:08:16
Let's recap the best bets. That'll do it for today's show. I thought it was a pretty good show. Uh, let's recap the best bets we're in. Oh yeah, speaking of midweek games, we got a few here. Uh, so the over in the northwestern maryland game glad that franchise is on that, I concur. I bet that. Uh, scroll up. Yep, memphis on friday minus six and a half. Just gave that out. We'll see if it gets played. Uh, at worst to get your money back and then on friday we'll re-bet it. San jose state money line minus 115. We'll be rooting very hard for that one. They're just they might be figuring some things out there under a first-year coach or wyoming's not showing anything really like except air force. Uh off, damn, what the hell is that oklahoma? I thought we were sharp. 

01:08:59
We gave this out in the summer oh yeah, we, you know we want to talk about negative clv yeah, we're the look ahead, uh poof yeah, I'm a part of it. Uh, I have oklahoma tickets too from the summer that don't look so hot, but it's a rivalry game. Funny things happen. Uh, we'll talk more about that one on friday. Am I lean? Oklahoma BG minus two and a half team total. I love that. Hawaii team total, love that. Love my alma mater. Be written for him from the wind total. That's a I'll tell you what man. That's a pretty good looking portfolio for Monday afternoon. 

01:09:38 - Joey Knish (Co-host)
Yeah, let's I like it going into the week. Let's keep it rolling here, Keep rolling. Yeah, then Mikey V chimes in now that you're talking to Oklahoma. But yeah, we'll hopefully keep it rolling. Maybe have some adders on Friday, baby. 

01:09:52 - Brad Powers (Co-host)
I know Mike liked my Lincoln Riley tweet. 

01:09:55
So, yeah, I love that stuff, but I don't know. I like this quarterback for Oklahoma, this Hawkins kid. They might be able to do some things. Texas has not played anybody, folks, so we'll talk more about that one on Friday as a teaser For all the questions, comments, concerns, likes. We appreciate you guys, the stars of the show, for the man, the myth, the legend himself, joey Kanish. For Jacob, we did a wonderful job filling in for Zach Phillips and he might be having to do it again and again. Who knows with Zach, but Jacob for Zach Phillips, and he might be having to do it again and again. Who knows what? Zach, but Jacob, great job today and that'll do it. I'm just merely Brad powers. You just watched hit the books, part of the hammer betting network sponsored by FanDuel.