00:00 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
On this week's episode of Circles Off. College football is right around the corner Week zero. Next week. We're bringing in Brad Powers, one of the best college football bettors around. He's going to talk about his process how you can get better at college football betting, and we're going to ask him some tough questions as well about his pick selling. All that and more. This week's Circles Off starts now. Welcome to Circles Off episode number 115, right here on the Circles Off YouTube channel in audio form, as well on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, part of the Hammer Betting Network. I'm Rob Pozzola, joined by Johnny from Betstamp. How it goes. 

00:40 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Pretty good Getting fired up for college football. I will say I am sick of having no football on, as is everyone in the betting community. Let's go, it's about time. 

00:50 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I agree with you 100%. I don't originate my own college football but I have access to some stuff and I bet college football. I just like that football's back. And, by the way, no disrespect to the Canadian Football League, but there's only a limited amount of CFL games every week, right Even with the bi-week. Sometimes there's weeks or three games Like I want to get into it now. So I'm excited for it. 

01:11 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
But we got one 15 though. Yeah, keep the tradition. Ryan gets left. Yeah, it gets left. 

01:17 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Ryan gets left, by the way. I'm in no position to talk about anyone's hair, I will say but Ryan Getzlaff went from like full head of hair to, like you know, bald. He went Messier, he went Mark Messier, in like in the span of maybe. I've never seen a transformation that quick. I don't know what it was Genetics probably. Yeah, it is what it is. 

01:41 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
We're in the helmet all the time. 

01:42 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
It is what it is, patty Mahomes, obviously we yeah, it is. 

01:43 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
This is just a helmet. It is what is patty? Mahomes obviously got mahomes, we got brandon marshall brandon marshall, that's a good one. 

01:47 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Michael crabtree, back in the day sorry ass receiver yeah, sorry ass. Receiver. I loved seeing patrick mahomes on uh on quarterbacks. I love that show. It's great. I know some people are giving like to each their own. You're entitled to your own opinion. I like the behind the scenes stuff with quarterbacks. What I've learned, though, is that 50% of what these guys do every week is just like physio, just pure like pain management. It's crazy, you know. You see stuff in the games. Kirk Cousins takes a big hit. He's rolling around on the ground. 

02:27 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
You don't really understand the extent of the hit and how that weighs on him for the entire season as it goes on, but it's, it's pretty crazy and we can't move on without mentioning this guy just because mvp, whatever, say what you want, nicole yokich. Oh, also, I was gonna say vince carter vc. Oh, my goodness, we almost missed vc, vc, holy, it's over. 

02:41 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
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04:12
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04:43 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
We're now joined by one of the sharpest college football bettors on the planet. You can follow him on Twitter or X whatever you want to call it now at BradPower7. He's part of the Bet the Board podcast with Todd Furman and Pain Insider. You've seen him on covers before doing release shows and also part of the Hammer Betting Network on Hit the Books with Joey Knish every Monday and Friday throughout the college football season. If you're not subscribed to Hit the Books, make sure you check them out on YouTube. Hit that subscribe button. Check out their content. Brad Powers now joins us on Circles Off. How's it going, brad? 

05:19 - Brad Powers (Guest)
It's going well. Thanks for having me. Guys Look forward to this. 

05:22 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Yeah, no problem at all. Obviously, college football coming up with week zero next week, wanted to have you on, give some insight into your process and how you've been so successful as a college football better. But before we get into that, let's get into the backstory a little bit. I learn more and more about you every time I listen to Hit the Books or even when we have some off-air conversations. I think time I talked to you you told me you grew up on a farm and you're up at like 5 am every single day. But I'm very interested in your personal background and how guy growing up on the farm, living that type of life, got involved in in sports betting yeah, so uh, not a a very usual track, like I mean, I've listened to your podcast several times and people are almost like born into it. 

06:05 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I want to say you know their dad or an uncle or whatever really into gambling and whatnot and they just generally, you know, took interest. Not the case with me, I mean. I don't know anybody in my personal family, didn't even know barely any friends that were into the betting. What we were into as a family was college football hardcore. I mean, it was Notre Dame season tickets or a family vacation in Florida. And we had to decide and we voted on Notre Dame football season tickets. 

06:35
So it was mainly in my youth, I mean football, and it just generally progressed to where the money is. And we know where the money is. It's more the betting side and you know just also to personally, you know, say it's also where I think the sharper people are. I mean I you flip on espn or any of the networks or anybody, just general football talk. I think it's low iq, the highest iq for for the most part, obviously you know our industry, that doesn't. You know that doesn't account for everybody. But I would say when we're talking football and really dive in deep diving, that the gambling space just intrigued me. 

07:11
So you know, after college I was doing radio in Toledo. Wasn't much money. I originally wanted to be a print journalist, you know, be a columnist or an editor. That was dying at the time, 20 years ago. You could see, you know that going. I didn't like TV because I thought the people were fake. So I did radio for like six months, had my own show sold, my own ads, said forget this, there's no money in this, and got hired at Phil Steele publications. I just won. I thought I was working on a magazine. I just thought I was generally, you know, just working on college football year round and I got introduced to the betting side. I found out what paid for that magazine, and that being North Coast sports. So away we went, learned how to handicap, learn how to market a tout, so to speak. Didn't learn betting until I moved here, but that's what got me in the startup, like 15 years ago working with Phil Steele. 

08:09 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
So, brad, first off, thanks for coming on. It's a pleasure to have you on. Anyone that's listened to the Hit the Books channel or seen you on any other piece of media knows that you can talk your ass off about college football all day, any team, whatever it might be, but obviously, knowing college football as a fan does not necessarily relate to being in it as a better right, which you have also been known to do. So what we wanted to ask here, obviously, is a gambling podcast. You know what sets you aside. Is it just a football knowledge? Is there anything else like? You know what sets you aside specifically as a pure better? 

08:39 - Brad Powers (Guest)
that's a great question. I would say I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed I'll put it that way if I obviously don't have the biggest bankroll, but what you know allows me to get a lot of closing line value. What allows me to power rate teams probably as good as anybody. I would say at least you know at all 133 plus the FCS. I encompass everything. I mean I have my own model, but it's not. I don't strictly go off my model. 

09:05
I know all the players and I don't mean football players, I'm talking about the market influencers and when a line moves, 90% of the time I know why that line moved. I know, you know what you know a right, if it's a right angle, or somebody else. I know who made that bet. I know why that line move. If it's an injury, generally speaking, I know why that line move. If it's an injury, generally speaking, I know why that moves. So and I, and you know, I know how much a certain player is worth. 

09:28
I know it's speaking in generalities, but I think in college football it's not the NFL, it's not like some you know relatively set number. How much is Aaron Rogers worth? I don't. I'm not sure that the market really understands what the Tulane quarterback is worth on a game in and game out and year in and year out basis. So uh, I. The fact that I work on it year round and specialize in it also probably makes me a little unique. I'm not jumping from sport to sport for the most part doesn't mean I'm not gonna bet a little bit basketball. Doesn't mean I'm not betting a little nfl, but I mean all 12 months out of the year. There's not a day that goes by where I'm not looking at something college football related. 

10:04 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
So, in regards to, I think that's a really good question in terms of what sets you apart and where you think your edge comes from. If you had to pick one of the two that you think is a greater contributor to your edge, would it be your commitment to following college football and knowing all these players year round? Or is it your ability to apply, maybe to differentiate yourself from others in the way that you can evaluate players like is it? Is it? Is it the commitment to the craft and the amount of time and hours you actually put in? Because we've had eddie walls on this podcast before and he showed us, binder upon binder, that he's just writing notes in offseason and that's a time commitment. Is it that? Or is it your ability to think differently from people and like, just process things in a different way? 

10:57 - Brad Powers (Guest)
it's a really good question. It's a time commitment. What allows me to think differently and on the fly, when I'm betting, making a ton of bets, and just and just off the top of my head, come up with a power rating and just know these teams, no matter who's playing one another, is the time commitment, the 12-month-a-year process to deep dive these teams year-round. I mean, if I don't do that, I can't do what I do on a day-in and day-out basis during the season. 

11:22 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I'm just a simple Canadian boy here, and months ago, I think, you were attending some like off-season college football games that I didn't even know existed and I'm like, holy geez, who is this guy? What a commitment to the craft to be able to do this. Out of curiosity, brad, you've been doing this a long time now. There's evolutions in the sports betting space. I mentioned Eddie Walls because I highly respect him and I think a lot of people highly respect him, but his process is pretty much all manual, right? I mean, he admits to this himself. He'll tweet about it. How much of your process is manual versus automated, and is there a reason that it's one way or another? Like, is there just a certain comfort in your routine now that that you wouldn't want to change that? 

12:11 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, another really good question. I would say 70% manual. Still, that's just how I learn is by doing. If I'm just scraping data, you know I don't know the interest, you know the ins and outs and you know the man, know the sort of manual adjustments that you have to make once the market gets liquid in October. And you really have to understand that I just if I didn't do it manually, I'm not sure that I'd have the same knowledge base. I just don't. 

12:40
Now, I respect the people that can. Just you know they have their model, they trust their numbers, that you know. Just just you know, scrape the data and away they go. But uh, I just think I think you could have done that maybe 10 years ago and been fine. And I just think there's so many moving parts now. College football, I just say the roster. I mean, yes, certainly it overturned 20, 25 percent over throughout much of college football history. Now it's 35, 40 and that's a conservative estimate. You have 35 to 40 of an entirely different roster than what you had just the year before. So I think you still have to manually dive into these teams, uh, to really have a grasp on it. To, to, to make 300 bets before july. Uh, you got it. There's got to be some manual. You're not scraping. 

13:23 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
You know play-by-play data on that are you betting any other sports seriously? 

13:29 - Brad Powers (Guest)
no, no, that's semi-seriously, maybe the nfl, but I mean not off season. During the season, yeah, but not off season. So yeah, I mean it comes with. I better know my numbers because it's my whole. I can't afford to have you know. Oh, I had a losing college football season. Well, that meant I had a losing, freaking year. So I mean it puts added pressure that I got to win every single year. 

13:50 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Yeah, that's what I was going to ask. It's tough when you don't spread it around with other sports. So you have, basically, you know, a finite amount, a few months where you got to grind it all out and make a profit. I can imagine that obviously might be stressful. One thing I was going to ask is, since you are considered like an originator in the space, are you ever worried that you know that edge may be eroded and like you won't necessarily know that it's eroded because you're doing all this media stuff, You're giving out picks, You're getting closing line value on the majority of the bundle. Does this ever worry you at all? 

14:21 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, it certainly does. I mean, and it hasn't worried me until probably the last couple years. I, you know, maybe you know I'm sure somebody listened this. Oh, he's ratting on himself. He, you know, he must not have been that sharp. 

14:32
I didn't move markets that much to the last couple years. Now I move markets and I wonder, hey, am I creating my own clv? Uh, not only because I'm betting it, but my following is bigger. People are reacting. I mean they're not waiting until, uh, waking up on game day and betting my stuff. I'm betting it, but my following is bigger. People are reacting. I mean they're not waiting until waking up on game day and betting my stuff, they're betting it within five minutes. 

14:48
Am I just creating this? I mean I have a little bit more respect in the marketplace. You know, people maybe are a little cautious to, you know, fade, a guy like me now, where they didn't care who the hell I was, even a couple years ago. Yeah, I mean, I haven't been there yet where it's affected the results yet, but who knows. I mean I'm not going to sit here blindly and say that it's not going to get to the point where I have to question hey, I can get to my numbers. I can bet them, but I'm moving it so much that my following just can't get to anything. So then I have to question my whole company. To be honest with you. 

15:22 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Yeah to. 

15:24
I want to hone in on um you saying that you know questioning whether or not there are times where you're creating your own clv, because I've gone through a very similar experience in the past with betting hockey before, where there's just not a lot of people that are originating hockey and whenever I would send out a bet, everyone would bet it and I would inevitably, like any sports better go on losing streaks where my my metrics look great. 

15:52
I'm beating the closing line, you know 95 percent of the time, if not more, getting huge clv, but I'm losing for a prolonged stretch, whether that's a month or month and a half or two months, and that personally really weighed on me because I had no idea of knowing whether my edge was gone or this was just like an unlucky period. And I wonder how you deal with losing stretches, because I've actually seen you post to Twitter before X now whatever in the past where you know you would have had a week with insane closing line value, like numbers that are unheard of, but you finished in the red. Does that type of stuff weigh on you and do you ever question yourself when you do have one of those stretches? 

16:38 - Brad Powers (Guest)
it hasn't been a long enough period. I've certainly had some bad weeks and let me preface by saying this Like I haven't really been a I would. You know everyone uses professional better. I cringed at it when I was labeled at it, even three, four years ago. I wouldn't consider myself a pro better until the last couple years where, you know, if I didn't do anything else other than bet college football, could I make a living that's how I identify it as and make a decent living Last two years. Yes, so a living, that's how I identify it as and make a decent living last two years. Yes, so I haven't had it's a short sample size two years. I haven't had like a six week period where it just has gone completely haywire and I haven't won. Certainly I've had some losing weeks. So I'm not sure how I would handle that rob. 

17:18
Uh, I can tell you personally, individual plays, bets, weeks I handle a lot better than what I did even three, four years ago. I mean I was kind of a hothead. I used to, you know, get visibly frustrate, uh, frustrated at certain results, but now I I don't let it bother me as much I say that, but you know I did let my college basketball betting affect me a little bit. Uh wasn't a good month. Uh was in the red where I I budgeted to be in the black, significantly in the black, significantly in the black. The CLV was all there. I shouldn't be affecting a college basketball market. I'm not known as a college basketball guy. That affected me this past, you know, march, to say the least. 

17:57 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Well, we're all human. I mean, it happens at the end of the day, when you get into the state of being a pro better, where the majority of your income is coming from actually betting and not, you know, selling things on the side or whatever. It's challenging. Whenever you lose, I think people inherently just get frustrated, and that's fair. I mean, that's the livelihood that they're talking about, right? So I think that people can get irrational in that moment. But you talk about the college basketball stuff and I asked you earlier you know about your edge in college football and admittedly you said a lot of. It is just the amount of time that you're spending and putting into it. Do you think your approach to betting college football only works for that particular sport? Like, let's say, you grew up a college basketball fan or an NBA fan or NFL fan instead of you know, notre Dame football fan? Do you think you could have the same level of success doing what you're doing now if you had applied it to a different sport? 

18:59 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, I do, particularly college basketball. I think college basketball, generally speaking, it's easier to beat. It's less liquid than even college basketball. I think college basketball, generally speaking, it's easier to be, it's less liquid than even college football. So if I wanted to do the exact same process for college basketball I have, I mean, I certainly think I would be successful doing that, because I mean, a lot of people just aren't doing that, you know and I. People ask me well, what do you recommend? I'm new to sports betting, what do you recommend that I do? A lot of times I'll answer, hey, I mean, do you mind? Do you watch college basketball? Okay, yeah, a little bit. Just pick a few conferences in college basketball. If you got a small budget and bankroll's not that big of a deal to you, pick a you know the Ohio Valley Conference in college basketball, a few others. 

19:37 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
I think that's the easiest market to beat, especially in november and december when everybody, like you and myself, are still focused on, you know, college football in the nfl yeah, I agree with that, because most people's argument to why not to bet college basketball at the bigger levels is like oh, it's not that liquid, even if I do crush an edge there, I'm not going to make that much money. But uh, as you mentioned there, brad, like if you're, if you're a hundred dollar better looking to originate, like you're gonna have no issues getting down, even if you're, even if you're betting, even if you're betting 2000 a game, you can still shop around enough books that they'll probably take action. That will some two, two grand a game, but even 500, let's say, like you're, you're crushing that market and focusing on one specific conference, as you mentioned is, is probably quite smart because you can actually stay up to date with all the news and injuries yeah, it's specialization in a sense, right. 

20:30 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I mean, everyone wants to have access to 150 college basketball games to bet on on a saturday college basketball slate. But how many people are going to actually be in tune with all those teams that are playing all those games? I mean, sure you can, you can put out a number on them, but I do think that there is something to specialization, especially when you have all these teams just being able to hone in on something and you know if you really understand those teams or pick up on something that somebody running you know a season long model is not going to pick up on. I think that just gives you a big advantage there. 

21:03 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
I think it's also easier because there's there's more games, like if you're betting and then just following a small market like college football, even if you're following really small conferences and, um, you know teams that aren't as well known, info is on out there like you're still only playing one time per week. So you get info. Great, you just got a great bet. But if you have, if you can compound this, basically like where you're playing every couple of days in college basketball, it's a lot easier as well to win. 

21:27 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
It's a concrete sample size Yep. 

21:29
Totally agree with that, Brad, as one of the foremost college football betting authorities out there right now curious, I mean, you're obviously very confident in what you do, but are there times where you don't necessarily trust your numbers or your intuition? So I'll give you an example. But let's say I don't know, you're high on a team in market and you're continuously betting them for two or three weeks, but you're noticing that there is market resistance. The number always gets played back at you. How confident are you enough in what you are doing where you can ignore that? Or do you take note of that and be like, hey, maybe I'm missing something here. I'm going to dig deeper into this team? How do you you proceed with a situation like that? 

22:14 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
another really good question, uh, so brad's been saying that after every question I'll call him. Yeah, I mean, well, I don't. 

22:20 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I asked the first one, and then you guys know I do a lot of media and I don media. Anybody can ask questions, but everyone's focused on the now. They're focused on the picks and not the process. 

22:30 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
I asked the first one and then Brad's like really good question, and I was like wow. 

22:34 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I was on top of the world. 

22:35 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
I felt like a million bucks. And then he's been saying it after every single one. I'm like all right, so I just got God, but you, I just got, I got God, but you had me feeling good for a second. Brad, well, he does work. 

22:43 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Well, I'm here to tell you that I? Don't say that in most shows that I do. 

22:46 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Okay, good, that's what I was going to say he works with Joey Kanisha on a weekly basis. He's not. He's not good to working. You know used to working with good media personnel. 

22:55 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
He's got to deal with the dredges of uh of the network up, brad, but uh, you did have me on a high there for a bit yeah. 

23:04 - Brad Powers (Guest)
So it's obviously case by case basis. So it depends on what time of the season is. Obviously, you know, I'm going to be more alerted this time of the year because I mean even a guy like myself that it's felt like he's, you know, put as much time as anybody. Maybe somebody knows something. I don't at this point, I haven't, nobody's seen it. I mean you can ask coaches that they don't, you can ask them. Well, I don't really fully a hundred percent know until I see how these guys perform actually on the field Specific to gambling depends on who is coming from. 

23:33
Where's the resistance coming from? That's why I like knowing the players, the market influencers. I mean knowing the players, uh, the market influencers, I mean obviously I'm going to respect, uh, a right angle sports, uh, because of their long-term winning. If they're releasing opposite of me and on a consistent basis, then I I gotta question myself well, I mean, what's going on here? 

23:49
Uh, if it's, you know, I mean let's be honest. I mean, you know, unlike five, six years ago, barney at the bar and the guys that come in and bet on game day can influence a market, even in college football. So is it moving against me on game day and I perceive it to be, hey, that's the, you know the, the, the two or three most popular public sort of plays for that particular day, then I'm not going to respect it as much. But I can tell you I don't on an individual game, week basis, whatever I mean, I'll I'll go with my number when it lines up week after week. Hey, I am missing something with this team, whether it's my power rating, I'm not getting closing line value Like I should. Then, if it happens two weeks in a row, then I'm taking no and I I'm, you know, not not as likely to bet on that team for for the future week until I understand why this money is going against me. 

24:41 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
In terms of you know you mentioning a couple times now you know, potentially for right angle, sports is on the opposite side of you or whoever. When the screen moves or you see a number move, how do you personally know who's betting it Is this you know. Are you subscribed to services that move numbers? Is the information being fed to you specifically by people within other groups? Do you do any cross betting with other groups? I'm just curious because a lot of people you know they're trying, they're staring at an odd screen all day, they're trying to figure out whether this is a real move, a fake move, but they don't really have any intuition or understanding of who's betting what. Where do you get that understanding from? 

25:22 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah. So it's. All of the above Depends on my personal relationship or lack thereof with that particular service or whatnot. A lot of times I exchange info. They like my info, I like their info. We exchange. Sometimes I buy their service. Yeah, I'm not opposed to if you respect the person. You have the bankroll to do it. It's not impacting your bankroll whatsoever. I want the information, I want to know why certain stuff's moving. So I'll actually physically buy some people out there, few and far between, but they're certainly out there, uh. And then you know I'm betting, uh, you know that somebody will give me a tip, you know on the side and hey, we'll go at a certain time and we just bet together. We act like our own little mini syndicate on certain stuff, but mainly it's mainly, I would say, rob, just exchanging info, I'll get, you know, you get my info and picks and I get yours. 

26:09 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I know that's how we just moved so, with access to this information, I want to talk just a little bit about bet timing as well, um, and how much of your, let's say, weekly process or let's say, like each individual bet you make, are you actually considering the timing of the bet all that much, or is it more so? Okay, this is now in range, I'm gonna bet it? Do you ever have conversations with yourself of like, okay, this is now in range, but I think X, y and Z actually might push this number out even further. I might wait on it to get a better number down the road? How much of of of like the timing of the bet goes into your actual consideration for for making that bet? 

26:51 - Brad Powers (Guest)
yeah, I mean it goes in a lot. I mean I gotta think about that when I'm betting these circuit openers. Uh, do I fire right now? Is that going to be the best number I'm going to see all week, a lot and a lot of my bets. You know, I'm just being perfectly frank. Maybe I don't have that big of a power ratings difference, maybe it's a half point, uh. 

27:09
But if I anticipate that, you know, if it's around a key number three, seven, what you name it, it's a popular team that I just know I'm not going to see it. Do I think I have that big of an edge? No, but I think it's going to. I'm 90 plus percent certain it's going to move. I just fire immediately, but you know it is what it is Now throughout the course of the week. I mean I can I wouldn't say I talk myself into it, but it really depends on the number. Again, I know people don't, it's a less liquid market than the NFL, but I mean getting that seven and a half when you have 20, some outs and you know, hey, that's not going to last. I mean there's just some intuition there that I, when you followed the mark as long as I have, I mean I mean, I don't know how to break it down Like most of my betting is Sunday, monday, tuesday, less bets at the end of the week. But but I'm betting, I'm making bets every day of the week during football. 

28:02 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
So let's get into that. Yeah, what does a? 

28:07 - Brad Powers (Guest)
regular week look like during CFB. I would say the most important part of my process probably starts Saturday night box score identification. I just go through every single day on box score. I know it's a lot of work but it's not work to me. Where did I learn you? You know, not the betting side, but the handicapping power rating side. You know, what did I, you know, learn to look for in a box score? Phil steel taught me some stuff to look at. 

28:28
So saturday night early sunday morning, I just go through every box score, look for injuries. You know, if I see two quarterbacks played, uh, maybe I didn't catch the game. Why did two quarterbacks play? Was a blowout? Or this guy get hurt? And do I anticipate a circa opener or you know even a monday opener? Will they have that information readily available to them? I mean? But just going through that and to be on, you know my entire process. 

28:53
I I like writing down a side and total off the top of my head. I'll give myself 20 seconds, 30 seconds, I'll go through the whole card. This is what I make the number side or total off the top of my head. I'll give myself 20 seconds, 30 seconds, I'll go through the whole card. This is what I make, the number side or total, and then I go to my you know power ratings, my model, so to speak, and then what does that spit out the number should be. So I compare the two and I know you guys are betting NFL or focused on everything there. 

29:17
My Sunday morning is, you know, college football. Still, I mean I have my NFL bets in. If something late breaking thing that I have to get off of, something, certainly, uh, you know I'll take part in a few NFL bets, but it's mainly just getting ready for you know what circuit does on Sunday morning here in Vegas at 11 AM Pacific time. Then at that point is just, you know, collecting more and more information throughout the week. I mean I have my 40, 50 bets right off the top there and then away we go. I mean I'll bet, you know, right angle releases on Monday. 

29:47
Other people I respect throughout the week where I know I'm going to get closing line value off of that. I'm betting their stuff, moving their stuff, trying to get off of stuff that I perceive to be not so good. I mean, that's it's. You know, a lot of people like what we do and it sounds grand, but it's mainly sitting in front of a damn freaking screens all day, seven days a week. That's all it is. We're reading that Twitter, twitter, you know, I don't even know what they call it now, you know when you have your list and whatnot. So it's just reading that and reading an odd screen. That's mainly what I do. 

30:20 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Yep. And on top of that I mean, how much actual college football are you watching over the course of the week? And when I say watching, you know there's different levels of watching, right like they're sitting down on the couch and watching a game, start to finish and really breaking it down. There's being at your, your computer and having a couple games up on the screen in the background where a big play happens, and you look up and you kind of, what's your actual watching like over the course of the week? And I mean, if you are watching a ton of college football, do you think that actually helps you or aids you in what you're doing? 

30:55 - Brad Powers (Guest)
It's a really good question and I know there's, you know, people say you don't have to watch anything, you don't have to know any players. I'm kind of in between on that Sometimes. I think that there's you got to watch yourself. There's paralysis by overanalysis. You know, during a college football Saturday certainly have my five TVs up, I'm looking for injuries. Look, I'm a college football fan too. If there's a freaking Alabama's playing Texas, I'm going to watch the Alabama Texas game. If I you know, a lot of times I'm looking for the next week. Okay, I think I want to bet this team for the upcoming week, number dependent obviously, but you know I'll get a quick look this week's game. You know what's going on with this team. 

31:33
So a lot of times I don't like watching my biggest bets of the week, so to speak, because I just want to remove all, all the emotional aspect out of it. Don't care out of sight, out of mind, uh, so I would say you know tunely watched games, like really paying attention, play by, play three, four games on saturday probably, and probably a game game or two each day. Uh, I, I like the cut-ups. Uh, I'm not saying I'm sitting there to the three and a half hour tv broadcast. I like when the commercials are cut. I like what big 10 network, pac-12 network, damn, you can watch the whole game in 42 minutes. They just go play, play, play. A lot of times. 

32:08
I'll jump into the highlights, rob. You know what? What the hell happened with this game? You know, was there a turning point? A significant penalty changed. I mean, college football is a little bit different in the nfl. There there's a lot more emotional to it. Uh, or meaning like, I mean, one play can just I've watched college football enough throughout my life one play before the half, whether it's a penalty, a touchdown, call back, you know an interception or turnover. I, I, just I've seen momentum swings in college football impact that game so much more than the NFL. So I I want to identify that. What the hell? 

32:41 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
happened. I'm with you on that one. I can't even tell you how many conversations I've had with other people before where I bring up just a random play that happened in a football game where I'm like, if this didn't happen, like the bet is completely different, whether it's I mean, listen, it balances out over. I firmly believe this stuff balances out over time. Right, variance in sports is always going to exist, but there'll be a time where, like, a ref misses a blatant call on a on a third down or something, and that impacts everything after the fact, like the entire game would have been different. And uh, I'm with you on that one. 

33:19
In terms of, you know, picking up on that stuff and watching games, a lot of that's never going to be reflected in a box score. You can just say so and so got a, got a raw deal. This game, like they played way better, deserve to win, but there was some fluky things working against them, um, which you know you can track luck in sports and whatever, but there's just certain things that I think you gain from watching sports that, yeah, you know, the numbers guys and I consider myself a numbers guy as well are just going to miss sometimes because they don't have that, that, um, you know that level of understanding of it, but people go crazy um, on twitter and then like in anything, saying like oh, you can't win if you watch the games, but you actually can. 

34:07 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Like I've even changed my stance on this over the years you could win at betting just from watching the games. You just have to watch for the right things and watch the right games. Yes, so like to say you can win, and then the game you're watching is like you're mentioning al Texas, like that's going to be extremely difficult, but you got to look like I was shocked to learn the viewership like nationwide viewership, on some of these college games that might be on like ESPN plus or whatever it's like it's shockingly low for what I thought, for what I thought how many people would be watching those live, and books are still offering live bets on them, so it's almost actually beneficial to be like okay, what are the lowest market teams that are going to get the least amount of watches? Go watch those ones and live bet them. 

34:50 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Yeah, and a lot of this too. Like this I love Spanky, he's a friend of mine. I had a blast at Bet Bash, but a lot of this stems from different betting styles as well. Right, like this kind of originated with spanky saying I don't watch any games. Right, I can't even his style. 

35:06 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
You don't need to watch the of course you. 

35:08 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
If you're betting the way that he bets, you don't need to know who the quarterbacks in the nfl are. Like that's, that's. That's not a factor that's needed. But if you are originating and you're betting bottom up and you're creating numbers on teams and you're competing against other people in market, I do think that there's an inherent advantage in watching and picking up on stuff or just being able to dig deeper into something. Maybe you know there, I'm sure there's be originators like Rufus, for example, that would disagree with that. But personally, brad, I've always felt like there's, there's just something there where, if you're looking for the right things, like Johnny said, there's like a little edge to be gained that over other people. 

35:51 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
But it is. It is definitely like a declining, uh diminishing, returns principle in the sense that you're not going to be able to do this or mean to the same extent next year, in the year after, in five and ten and twenty years. So like I'm not saying that this is like a strategy that I would recommend to people moving forward definitely not but like I've changed my sense, I've come around on this like there is absolutely ways to beat even major market sports from watching the games. But the difficulty is high. 

36:20 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
But on the lower, lower end, like it's actually not even that difficult at this exact point in time, could change in a few years it's a slippery slope because most recreational bettors will think that they can beat sports because they watch the games and they're like ah, I watch a ton of nba, I know the players inside and out, but that does not translate into being able to form a number on an NBA game and doesn't translate into understanding the betting market. So I'm not suggesting that anyone out there can just watch games. All of a sudden they're going to be Billy Walters, like that's not going to happen. But if you already have a grasp of how betting markets work and you already have an ability to come up with a number on a game, I think that this just gives you a little bit of an extra advantage so to speak. 

37:07 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
When they say they're watching games, the games they're watching is like USC Utah and like the main games that are on for the Thursday night NBA. 

37:15 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
That no one actually everyone's watching those games. 

37:17 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
You gotta be like, you gotta be watching. I'll even say this like you gotta be watching, like bowling green. But even bowling green is is actually pretty good, like that's. That's even a little bit too much like you gotta go. 

37:27 - Brad Powers (Guest)
People are watching the midweek mac games yeah, you gotta go. 

37:29 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
You gotta go way lower than that I think. 

37:32 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
And another thing and sorry to derail here, but this is a passionate subject for me but I think a lot of people often conflate fantasy as well with. You know, betting, and somebody is a great fantasy player for them in the NFL or NBA. But it's not necessarily worth that much from a betting perspective. Right, Like a running back. How many times do you watch, you know, NFL countdown on Sunday morning and a running back is like a late scratch and you're going to hear the entire panel talk about how this is like a massive loss for the team and the betting market doesn't move. Right, it's that type of stuff. So not everyone can just watch and be able to bet. 

38:12 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
They're talking about Tony Pollard being out being a big loss for the Cowboys two years ago, and he's getting like was averaging eight touches a game, max, exactly right, boys two years ago, and he's getting like was averaging eight touches a game max, exactly right. 

38:21 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Uh, all right, brad, I will get back into it here, but obviously you have a huge commitment to your craft. I'm wondering if you're ever able to shut it off at all. So we were at bet bash last week. I was expecting to see my buddy hitman there. Not there messaged him up. He's like Rob. I literally can't get away from my desk during NFL preseason because this is a massive edge for me. There's people that I know that literally just will not take time off over the course of the year, and it's like I'm working hard for the next five years of my life because that's going to lead me to take time off down the road. I'm curious where you stand. Is this a year round process for you, like when, when the national championship game is over, do you? Do you sit back and relax, or is it already onto next year? Already started to grind? 

39:11 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, it's already on in the next. But it's just who I am as a human being, though I'm not going to sit here and say, oh, it's a grind and stuff. I mean it is to a certain extent, but I mean I like it, I enjoy it, I like looking. I mean college football, it's almost like European soccer. I mean you're fanatical in some aspects when it comes to college football, and I guess that's where I get it from is from my youth, where, man, I'm already looking forward to it. I mean the way that it's scheduled. 

39:39
Now I mean you know this, in the NFL it's year-round. I mean you've got year-round discussions. I mean college football, right after the season's over you're talking recruiting and when recruiting's over, spring practice is starting, I'm a big spring practice guy. I mean people say they're worthless. I'm just looking at game, I'm just looking who can play, and not always, you know, necessarily looking for this upcoming season, I'm looking for a couple of seasons down the road. How good these players are, particularly quarterbacks. 

40:08
So that that's April and may well guess what's in may. They open up wind totals for every team. I'm not talking Alabama, ohio state, where in the past you know you get 20 win totals in the 4th of July weekend and some game of the years. I'm talking. Every team's available in May to bet on. You know, individual games, week one, season win totals, you name it. I got to be ready. So the only way to be ready in May is to start this baby up. You know, in February I don't take. There's no vacations here. If you're going to vacation it or not, it's actually probably july, because then the markets get a little bit more liquid stuff's already moved. 

40:46 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
There's not much new stuff releasing. That's the time to break away for a couple weeks. There you go. So, brad, I want to put you on the spot a little bit here um bring it. 

40:51 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Man I was. I was thought for those who don't know. No, listen for those who don't know. 

40:55 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
I know it's not even about anything grilling, nothing like that. Okay. So for those who don't know, brad is a part of the hammer betting network and I need rob's help here with the schedule. But you do host hit the books during the college football season. What days are we? Monday and friday 5 pm. Eastern time. Monday and friday 5 pm. On the nose everybody well, not, not on the nose because somebody's got to get joey knish like a clock, or he's got to get his Diet Coke and his coffee. Yeah. 

41:20 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I joke about it all the time. Joey Kanish thinks he's like Jim Roman is prime basically now and everyone's got to wait around for him. Poor Brad had to wait, you know, 15 minutes for filming a couple weeks back, but yeah, so as close to 5 pm Eastern time as possible and if it starts a little bit late it's because you know who it was so. 

41:39 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Brad, on that show you and Uncle K, you do actually give out. You give the picks, you give the goods. You actually give out the picks that people can bet on a weekly basis. Those picks, right there, we're going to tease those. You can go find those during the season. Those are for the regular games. What I want right now, I'm going to put you on the spot. Give us a surefire lock of the week undeniable, can't lose parlay now. Give us a futures bet. That is undeniable right now. What's your best value bet we got right now? Are you being serious? Yeah, that's what. That's why I'm saying I'm putting you on the spot. 

42:10 - Brad Powers (Guest)
You said bring it oh, I thought it was gonna be like you know, white out and stuff like that that's coming next. 

42:17 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Okay, we're gonna get to that. I don't even I don't care about that. 

42:20 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I mean the market is pretty liquid at this point. I mean shit's moved. To be perfectly honest with you, we just taped the sec preview and, just to put in perspective, we got like five win totals. I still thought we're holding it to some value. They're positive, ev uh. But you're laying like minus 150. So I mean mississippi state under season win total under 6.5 minus 160. That was my favorite SEC bet that we taped and recorded yesterday. 

42:46 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Mississippi State it's not a lock, though you know just to put in perspective. 

42:50 - Brad Powers (Guest)
you know Rob asked me earlier do you ever get frustrated? I had. You talk about closing line value. I had won a game of the year with 24.5 points. Last year I bet LSU plus 14.5 against Texas A&M. It was a week 12 game but I bet it. Obviously in July they closed a 10-point favorite. I got 24.5 points in my pocket. Obviously, extremely Should be a winner. There Comes down to some reason. They're getting blown out LSU 38-17, getting crushed. They score a touchdown, they go for two and they don't get it. They lose by 15 freaking points. As a 10-point favorite, I got plus 14.5 in my pocket. So when people tell me and I know you guys are joking, there's some sarcasm here but when people tell me that there's a lot, there are no freaking lie, and then there's just not, I mean like 24 and a half points, fucking loser. 

43:44 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
sorry, excuse my french no, I obviously I'm joking when I say that I like to play on the uh satire of a lot of the people in the space who actually do believe. Like they talk like that, you know what I mean. Like give me a stone cold lock of the week can't lose, no miss money back guarantee. 

43:59 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
I was told when I was younger that every lock has a key and it's stuck with me forever and you know it's I, I. I do like to make the jokes, but we should clarify to the audience who hasn't been with us forever. A lot of times it is just a sarcasm here in terms of like the lock of the week discussion it's. 

44:19 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
it's not a realasm here in terms of like the lock of the week discussion it's, it's not a real thing nice, okay, so we're we're gonna go ahead and pencil that pick in. We haven't given out many picks on this show, to be honest. 

44:26 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
We're gonna have to create a circles off bet stamp account for all the picks there might be like 10 picks in the history of this show, max, yeah probably honestly even less well, we did the one super bowl spec no, if you, if you don't include, if you don't include that, then this is probably one of three picks, maybe. 

44:42 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Yeah, that probably is what it is, so we're going to close off here soon, brad, but I know Rob wanted to ask you about the touting stuff, so we'll let him fire that in it's important. 

44:52 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
It's not going to be for me. Listen, I can't let Brad off the hook because he's part of the hammer. It's important for us to to ask the questions that people want to hear, and I think one of the criticisms of you from, um, anyone who would criticize is that you're a pick seller, and there's obviously a lot of stuff out there about. If you know brad is so good at betting games and why is he selling picks. Can you walk us through your decision to continue selling picks, even though you walk us through your decision to continue selling picks, even though you're a successful better and on top of that, does it bother you at all that there's a segment of the population that will always think less of you because of that decision? 

45:32 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, so I'll first start off wise. I did it to start. I mean, call it naive. I didn't know that there's such a negative connotation. Keep in mind my first job in the industry. 

45:45
I mean, if you ask, this is how I didn't, this is, you know, bottom level knowledge of the industry I had when I started with phil steel. If you asked me what 110 was, I wouldn't know. If you asked me what the big was vigorous, I would have thought it was a salad dressing. So I had no idea. I mean I basically started when they gave me the information. I thought that's how you know. I mean, that's what, how you do it in this industry. You know you market, you give out, you know you do your handicapping, you have your picks, you have your bets, you give them out to clients. That's just how it works. I didn't know there was a lot of negativity towards it until I started working for RJ Bell at pregame here in Vegas and then I was like holy shit, I mean wow, I didn't know people like me were that thought of negatively. So why I originally started it out on my own, didn't have the bankroll, didn't want to work a nine to five Thought I could help people, if not just the picks, if not just the picks, but I mean thought at least that the you know I can concise some data into a nice little newsletter weekly. That you know maybe can at least at the very you know, save some people some time. I got all the data collected there right in front of you on a nice, neatly organized manner. 

46:51
Why do I continue? It's a really good question. I don't. I can't pinpoint it. How much I will continue, especially if I believe that my customers can't pinpoint it. How much I will continue, especially if I believe that my customers can't get the plays? I'm starting to see that this year stuff's moving within 30 to 60 seconds, ideally, if you can, other than those very few people that attack it, have multiple outs and can really get down. I I mean obviously we know I don't care how sharp I am, if they're getting a point and a half worse than number. You can't win long term that way. I mean obviously winning percentage goes down greatly. In that regard I'll have to see. I mean obviously I'll take some steps, maybe only let 50, 75 people have it. 

47:34
I've always believed in this. I mean there's certain levels of touting. I mean going back to the boiler room. I, I've never been about that. I'm not saying that I'm a good guy, I'm freaking, mother theresa, but anybody can free roll me. Uh, I think that makes me different. If I go 55 60 in the season, somebody says, hey, I, I didn't like your service, I want a refund. I just give him a full refund. I mean what? 

47:54 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
whatever I oh, he's getting all reading like no, no, fair, fair enough, cut that, zach. Cut it out before Brad gets the refund request. 

48:02 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Yeah, it's fine. I mean, if everybody calls me up and wants a refund at the end of the year, it is. I mean, would it hurt? Yeah, but I mean, people do it. Obviously they do it in the losing seasons. You wouldn't believe what they do even in the winning seasons. I don't know if people's personal bankrolls are To continue to do it. 

48:22
I like having a diverse portfolio and I see a lot of people I respect and maybe they're not pick selling, they're not touting, but I see them diversifying their portfolio in this space compared to what it used to be. Hey, there's some money, maybe affiliates, there's some money, you know. You know doing content, you know whether it's, you know the old school content, content on TV, social media, you name it, podcasts. There's a lot of ways to monetize in this industry and I'm just not going to, you know, get after anybody that wants to have a diverse portfolio. I mean, I'll be perfectly honest with you, I like having a certain income. That's on the book, so to speak. So when I'm making big purchases, big brother government's not, you know looking into my books. So, hey, this is the money I made from touting, selling picks. I can prove it. Here's all the sales. Here's what I'm going to pay taxes wise, I do it for that I mean also as well. I'm just being honest. 

49:15 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Fair enough. I think that was a very honest answer. Yeah, I mean listen, there's nothing more I can really add to that or nitpick at that. Everyone has their own incentives for doing what they want to do. I think that that was well articulated, Brad you know. 

49:28 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I will say one other thing, rob. I mean because obviously I'm a very college football niche, I'm not jumping from sport to sport. So I mean, if somebody shows me proof that if I can only bet college football and make this certain amount that I want to make, then I, you know, by all means I'll quit selling picks. But you had Ed Golden from Raz on a few months ago and he, he didn't come out and you know say it, but he kind of hinted towards it. Even a group that's as successful as raz has as many outs. It's a team you got to evaluate, you know, how much money I can make content pick selling versus how much I can make if I'm just solely betting. And I gotta tell you in today's day and age that's not a for sure answer. Of course you can make more money betting. I don't. 

50:15
There's a lot of money to be had, you know, in content and pick selling there just is. I mean we're not talking 50 grand a year, 50 grand a year type stuff. I mean this is significant money and I'm not being, you know that sleazeball that's marketing a Pac-12 game of the week, game of the year, mountain West game of the year. I'm not even doing hardly any marketing at this point and it's still a very profitable industry. Does that make me a sleazeball? That's your definition. If it does, it does I don't. To answer your follow-up, I don't care. You know, if you asked me two years ago, rob, that you know I know who these people are on Twitter. I wanted some adulation. I wanted some respect. At this point in my life I could care less what these people think of me. If you think I'm a sleazeball, then that's your prerogative. 

50:57 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
Honestly yeah, I would. It is what it is. Don't hate the answer at all. We get it all the time. 

51:03 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
We've experienced this space. I mean, you mentioned the RJ Bell situation, right? I think back in 2013 or 2014,. I was a recreational better wasn't winning I made a tweet about, like RJ Bell, putting out some good information for NFL every week, and I don't think I've ever gotten more negative feedback on a tweet than I did in that time, and you know it was eye-opening for me and I learned some things from that situation. 

51:29
But you know, even content we, you know we put out on a weekly basis, right, it's hard to separate the good from the bad. It's hard to separate the good from the bad. I think a lot of times, people that have a negative opinion of you are just going to be way more vocal than anyone else, and I've gotten to the same point. That's life. That's life. But this is Circles Off. We started Circles Off as a betting education type of channel. It's evolved a little bit, but we still preach betting education at our core. So before we get into our final questions here, brad channel it's evolved a little bit, but we still preach betting education at our core. So before we get into our final questions here, brad, I'll just ask you for a general piece of advice that you would give to an aspiring college football better. 

52:09 - Brad Powers (Guest)
That's looking to improve their betting I think I kind of hinted at it when I was talking about college basketball specialize, uh, if you don't have that big a bankroll, most starting off, people don't. They're not starting off with 250 000 as a bankroll. I didn't. Uh, obviously. Uh, pick a couple conferences, study it, you're around. Uh, I think I would prefer you pick not the sec in the big 10, I pick, I would say, conference, usa, sunbelt. Uh, go after them, specialize in them, follow those teams year round. I mean you don't have to be elon musk, sort of speaker einstein to get an edge in those markets all good, uh. 

52:48 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
So, in addition to that, we've been asking our guests, recently for the last couple episodes, to give out a positive ev and a negative ev play of the week, or choose one or the other. So, with that being said, this is not betting related. It could be, it could not be. 

53:01 - Brad Powers (Guest)
Brad bradley, give us your positive or negative ev play of the week uh, I think the most positive ev thing in my life right now is morning walks, uh, preferably in parks or nature. As I get older, I just like it. It helps me. Think it helps me. You know, get away from things, uh, I, that's the the best thing that I do personally, uh, or perfect. I think it helps me professionally, to be honest with you what old morning walk. 

53:33 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
What is a what is a morning walk? Look like in vegas got it like a hundred fahrenheit right now. It's got to be nuts. I'll be honest with you I, I, you have to walk at like 5 am 100 fahrenheit right now it's gotta be nuts. 

53:40 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I'll be honest with you, I, I, you have to walk at like 5 am in the morning here, because it's still 80, 88 degrees at 5 am in the morning. So, uh, yeah, there's construction. It's tough finding a quiet place. Uh, it's not like a walk in other parts of the country, but it's still. I don't know. I'm a nature guy, I mean, and I have ocd. I count the lizards, I see, I count the number of rabbits, coyotes. I'm like a little kid, I mean. It just takes me back to simpler times all right, brad, and our closing question. 

54:11 - Johnny Capo (Co-host)
If you could go back five years, just a measly five years time, what is one piece of advice that you would give your previous self? 

54:18 - Brad Powers (Guest)
I'll be very specific and maybe this opens a can of worms. We're going back to 2018. I would tell myself quit pregame. You're not going to have a fun 2019. It's going to be really bad for you personally, professionally, spiritually, emotionally. Quit pregame ASAP. Move to New Jersey. Take advantage. You know. Bet as much as possible. You know. Don't be scared to bet. Bet as much as you can because you have an edge, and don't listen to other people saying you can only bet five, ten games a week. Bet the board man. Uh, you have an edge. You know this sport. 

54:50 - Rob Pizzola (Co-host)
Don't be scared yeah, I think that's good advice and I think if you talk to a lot of bettors, um, they would echo that in the sense that you hear a lot of ah, if I only had bet bigger at that time or or cashed in on that edge more than I did. So, honestly, if you do have an edge, go for it. Obviously, play responsibly, bet within your limits, but if you're confident in what you're doing, uh, I think you you got to capitalize on it, because there's very limited opportunities in life that come by. His name is Brad Powers. You can follow him on Twitter or X or whatever at Brad Powers 7. Check him out throughout the year with Todd Furman and Pain Insider on the Bet the Board podcast and, of course, head over to Hit the Books right now here on YouTube or, if you're listening in audio format, spotify, apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts. Subscribe to the hit the books channel, where brad is live mondays and fridays throughout the college football season with uncle k joey kanish brad. Thank you very much for doing this. Best of luck this upcoming college football season. Thanks for having me guys. This has been circles off, episode number 115 as part of the hammer betting network. 

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